12:02:57 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:03:02 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-irc 12:03:02 luca_barbato has joined #wot 12:03:18 sebastian has joined #wot 12:03:36 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:03:41 chair: McCool, Sebastian 12:04:34 q+ 12:04:54 back 12:06:21 ack k 12:06:43 topic: Minutes Review 12:07:04 ... there is a small typo 12:07:10 ... we should create a wiki page 12:08:40 mm: any objections to publishing? 12:08:44 q+ 12:09:49 i/topic/scribenick: Ege/ 12:10:08 ack k 12:10:13 topic: IG Charter 12:10:19 mm: what is the status 12:10:27 kaz: the draft charter needs updating 12:10:35 topic: Breakout Day 12:10:43 q+ 12:12:30 ack k 12:12:42 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/03/12-registries-minutes.html Registries session minutes 12:12:55 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/03/12-schemata-discussion-minutes.html Schemata session minutes 12:13:05 scribe+ kaz 12:13:11 ek: (makes debriefing) 12:13:20 q+ 12:13:43 ... guidelines about registries should be added to the "/Guide" page 12:13:52 -> https://www.w3.org/Guide 12:14:17 s|Guide|/Guide page| 12:14:49 s|//Guide page|/Guide /Guide page| 12:14:57 rrsagent, make log public 12:15:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:15:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:15:52 kaz: we also need clarify our requirements and expectations for registries clearer 12:15:54 ek: right 12:16:04 ... would discuss that tomorrow during the TD call 12:16:18 i/guidelines about/subtopic: Registries/ 12:16:23 subtopic: Schemata 12:16:59 ek: Ivan gave a comment on the difficulty with various schemata mechanisms 12:17:17 ... we also have difficult with JSON-LD's double nature 12:17:29 mm: what was the conclusion then? 12:17:37 ... another breakout at TPAC? 12:17:40 ek: think so 12:17:42 q+ 12:18:01 q+ 12:19:00 ack k 12:19:28 kaz: as I mentioned at the end of the session, we need to clarify our requirements and expectations for this topic too 12:19:41 ... for data model, validation, tooling for spec generation, etc. 12:20:06 ek: would think about the resources for spec generation too 12:20:16 s/too// 12:20:28 ... probably need some more explanation about that point next time 12:20:46 ... but good to see many people have similar problems 12:20:56 scribenick: Ege 12:21:00 rrsagent, make log public 12:21:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:21:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:21:27 q+ 12:21:31 ack m 12:21:33 ack k 12:21:46 topic: meetups 12:21:58 i/meetups/subtopic: Profile call/ 12:21:59 mm: there is one from wot cg tomorrow about matter 12:22:06 i/meetups/mm: starting next Tuesday/ 12:22:26 mm: make sure subscribe and add to your calendars 12:22:32 -> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/66be002d-864b-4a49-a4d4-4d231b4c99bf/ Mar-14 meeting 12:22:42 subtopic: WoT Security Seminar of WoT JP CG 12:22:51 i/there is one/subtopic: WoT CG/ 12:23:04 q+ 12:23:09 tm: on march 8 we had a seminar 12:23:19 ack k 12:23:57 tm: explain wot security mechanism and discuss what we can expect in the future 12:24:43 ... I have explained wot security and privacy handling 12:24:52 ... then someone (?) explained it from the IETF side 12:25:13 ... then we had a presentation from echonet about their security mechanisms 12:25:30 s/... there is a/mm: there is a/ 12:25:37 ... we got feedback about authentication/verification in iot scenarios 12:25:40 rrsagent, make log public 12:25:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:25:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:26:19 ... privacy protection and trusting data is important 12:26:22 s/the draft charter needs updating/the draft Charter needs editorial fixes, but already got ok from wide reviews./ 12:26:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:26:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:26:36 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 12:27:01 i|what is the status|-> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/440 strategy issue 440| 12:27:21 present+ Luca_Barbato 12:27:30 q+ 12:27:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:27:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:27:53 tm: we have found that it is important to bring the feeback to wot ig via use cases and requirements 12:28:04 i|on march|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/TODO/20240313.md#fyi-debrief-from-the-wot-jp-cgs-wot-security-seminar-on-march-8 summary from the wot security seminar on March 8| 12:28:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:28:10 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:28:16 q+ 12:28:19 ... we should work on the use cases template 12:28:47 mm: in the UC call, we have agreed to meet in the security call to extend the template on parts about security and privacy 12:29:00 s/UC call/UC call today/ 12:29:04 ... we should also discuss updating our best practices document 12:29:29 ... like what is the best practice for public service, personal data etc. 12:29:38 q? 12:29:40 ack mc 12:29:42 ack m 12:30:08 ack k 12:31:05 scribe+ 12:31:34 kaz: at some point, we should consider creating a new use case based on the feedback using the new use case template 12:31:35 scribe- 12:31:47 s/someone (?)/Ajitomi-san from Toshiba/ 12:31:57 q+ 12:32:20 ack k 12:32:24 mm: I have moved the nordic cg to collaboration 12:32:47 scribe+ 12:32:55 mm: upcoming free event in hivemq about wot in mqtt 12:33:09 kaz: it would be good to get such input from cg events 12:33:16 s/scribe+// 12:33:28 q+ 12:34:02 s/cg events/cg events like Mizushima-san mentioned :)/ 12:34:19 s/cg events/CG events in general/ 12:34:32 ack e 12:34:41 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:34:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:35:26 topic: cancellations 12:35:38 ... next wednesday meetings are cancelled 12:36:47 s/... ne/mm: ne/ 12:36:51 q+ 12:37:03 mm: I have updated the calendar 12:37:10 mm: should we cancel the scripting? 12:37:20 sk: I will ping daniel and ask him 12:38:38 ack k 12:38:53 topic: Publication schedule 12:38:57 scribe+ 12:39:09 mm: Ege, are you adding TD? 12:39:37 q+ 12:39:46 topic: PR 1185 12:39:57 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1185 PR 1185 Adding TD FPWD to schedule 12:39:57 ege: I have added the deadline of TD FPWD 12:40:09 i/I have/scribenick: Ege/ 12:40:17 q+ 12:40:21 ack e 12:41:25 ack k 12:41:48 scribe+ 12:42:01 mm: by june, we should have all administrative stuff clarified 12:42:07 kaz: need to clarify refactoring or new features 12:42:27 s/kaz: need to clarify refactoring or new features// 12:43:19 i/by ju/kaz: need to clarify refactoring or new features/ 12:43:32 i/by ju/scribenick: Ege/ 12:43:40 ... maybe alrady mentioning a milestone for june 12:43:50 mm: i am putting a placeholder for that in schedule 12:43:51 s/alrady/already/ 12:44:12 s/scribe+// 12:44:33 i/mentioning a/scribenick: Ege/ 12:44:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:44:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:45:12 s/kaz: need to clarify refactoring or new features// 12:45:21 i|maybe al|kaz: need to clarify refactoring or new features| 12:45:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:45:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:45:37 topic: F2F in June 12:45:58 sk: Siemens wants to host a F2F with a focus of WoT in Industry 12:46:06 i/need to cla/scribenick: kaz/ 12:46:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:46:10 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:46:24 ... also have task force meeting and plugfest etc. next to it 12:46:31 ... we want to ask who can join 12:46:47 ... it will be in Berlin 12:46:54 i|i am pu|scribenick: Ege| 12:46:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:46:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:47:20 s/... maybe al/kaz: maybe al/ 12:47:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:47:23 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:47:39 i/maybe al/scribenick: Ege/ 12:47:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:47:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:47:47 sk: even if it is a possibility, please indicate 12:48:33 mm: we should discuss the format 12:49:00 i|Siemens want|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning 2024 f2f wiki| 12:49:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:49:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:50:45 q+ 12:50:48 mm: we should know how long it will be 12:51:15 mm: will there be demos in the open day? 12:52:58 q? 12:53:46 kaz: it might be too early to do plugfest? 12:53:54 q+ 12:53:54 ack k 12:54:45 s/plugfest?/plugfest at this stage? So would suggest we concentrate on spec discussion. Demos still can be done during the Open Day, though./ 12:54:45 q+ 12:54:56 ack e 12:55:59 ek: we can do a plugfest about profiles or binding interoperability 12:56:21 ... or we can do some small demo booths of people but not necessarily a plugfest after the open day 12:56:51 q+ 12:56:51 q+ 12:56:52 mm: I don't think profile will be ready by then. A virtual plugfest can make sense 12:56:56 ack mc 12:56:56 ack m 12:57:17 lb: online plugfest makes more sense 12:57:43 ack lu 12:57:54 ack k 12:57:58 mm: we should move on 12:58:21 scribe+ 12:58:28 kaz: agree with McCool 12:58:29 q+ 12:58:32 scribe- 12:58:54 scribe+ 12:59:09 ek: just to make sure, next main call on March 20 will be cancelled. right? 12:59:17 i/just/topic: AOB/ 12:59:21 mm: correct 12:59:51 ek: btw, some weird problem with W3C Calendar 13:00:17 I need to move. bye 13:00:30 mm: maybe some problem on your side? 13:00:39 s/I need to move. bye// 13:00:42 [adjourned] 13:00:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:52 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/13-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:03:06 TallTed has joined #wot 15:05:50 Zakim has left #wot 15:13:18 bigbluehat has joined #wot 15:26:18 kaz has joined #wot 17:28:45 kaz has joined #wot 22:08:37 bigbluehat has joined #wot 22:08:38 hadleybeeman has joined #wot