Meeting minutes
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<HeatherF> (My bar is so very, very low)
Pick a scribe
Reminders: code of conduct, health policies, recorded session policy
[Heather walks through code of conduct]
Goal of this session
Heather: Any questions on the standardization process?
Heather: Charter has been out for review.
Heather: We added some "out of scope" bits.
… we have received a proposal to make it easy for digital credentials work into the WG; we are not planning to add that at this time
<wseltzer> addition to out-of-scope
Hober: As we know chartering takes time. Does it make sense to add the spec now instead of waiting potentially many more months?
Heather: When we first started work on the charter we combined the two areas of work. We got feedback that the threads (fedcm and digital id) were not at the same level of maturity.
Hober: It is not uncommon for a group to have work at differing levels of maturity.
Heather: I agree. I am reporting the consensus we reached.
Heather: I hope to continue to have conversations with people who were against the idea of bringing digital credentials / identity into the charter.
wseltzer: The choice is between "take a charter with no FOs and start work and demonstrate success" v. "reopen review"
… I think nobody thought it would be uncontroversial to add a deliverable
… so the preference was to start a group; the compromise was to start work and reopen the discussion for how to add to the group
TimC: It may be challenging to have two groups in the same WG trying to get two streams done.
Hober: Yes, but there are examples of it working
TimC: Agree that if there is consensus to add the deliverable; adding sooner rather than later is a good idea.
TimC: There is pressure (from a variety of global stakeholders) to get Digital Credentials into a more stable group.
Minutes from Building Consensus on the Role of Real World Identities on the Web
Heather: Regarding relationship between CG and WG; the WG will take the stable bits through the Rec process.
[Heather on timeline]
Heather: AC is supposed to respond to addition of "out of scope" by 19 March.
… two proposed chairs are Wendy Seltzer and myself
Heather: I know there are a lot of eyeballs (especially from higher ed) on this work.
wseltzer: we are excited to be nearly ready to launch the WG. The CG will continue to be a venue for additional incubation.
Ian: Payments folks have also been looking at FedCM in the context of returning user recognition; we'll probably continue to watch the evolution.
Discussion
Heather: Any discussion about how the WG will function? Meeting cadence, etc?
Ian: Got any standards positions?
Heather: Chrome very invested. Not sure about positions.
Sam: here are some links re: Webkit and Firefox
… there is a prototype in Firefox
… from Webkit we heard "directionally reasonable"
… but that was a couple of years ago (and passkeys were not as well-supported)
… but overall this seems directionally correct by different browsers.
… here are some links to positions
Kyle: We are generally supportive of FedCM
Kyle: We have not yet turned on the feature but the intention is to do so closer to more stability
[Kyle arrived after discussion about digital identity => Charter; Heather summarizes "not planning to change this right away so that the group can start"]
Kyle: We think identity work is premature for the WG at this point.
… we think the better path is to continue incubation at this time. I plan to put this in a GitHub comment.
… we are ok with the charter in its current state
Heather: I think it's healthy to have a bit of pressure on us.
[Some discussion about upcoming AC meeting discussion about identity]
Wseltzer: Thank you for that input. Once the WG starts up, it will be heads-down on its deliverables. The Membership will be the best venue regarding the choice of adding deliverables to the charter
Sam: What's the next step? Timeline?
Heather: AC feedback should end next week. Then there is a call for participation with a link for Members to join
… the Chairs allow a bit of time for people to join; then schedule meetings.
wseltzer: Once the Call for Participation goes out, make sure your AC Rep approves your request to join the WG
Heather: The CG will continue to meet
IJ: Do you have lots of non-Members in the CG? What proportion plan to join the WG?
Heather: There are a good number of non-members (e.g., higher ed). I expect a mix of some become members, some only participate in the cg, maybe an IE.
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