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13:06:32 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
13:07:21 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato, Mahda_Noura, Michael_Koster, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:07:37 <kaz> present+ David_Ezell
13:07:46 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lagally
13:07:59 <luca_barbato> scribenick: luca_barbato
13:08:13 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
13:08:28 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#21_February_2024
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13:09:07 <luca_barbato> topic: Minutes
13:09:20 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/02/07-wot-minutes.html Feb-7
13:09:22 <luca_barbato> mm: Anybody feels we need to go into the minutes in detail?
13:09:25 <luca_barbato> <none>
13:09:36 <luca_barbato> mm: objections to publish the minutes?
13:09:40 <luca_barbato> <none>
13:09:48 <luca_barbato> topic: Quick Updates
13:09:56 <Ege> q+
13:10:14 <luca_barbato> mm: I cleaned the wiki pages
13:10:25 <kaz> s/<none>/<none; minutes approved>/
13:10:34 <kaz> ack ml
13:10:44 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1180
13:11:02 <luca_barbato> ege: I prepared a pull request to clean up the repository
13:11:27 <luca_barbato> mm: I would not debate it today, can we discuss it next week?
13:11:30 <luca_barbato> ege: Sure
13:11:46 <kaz> i|cleaned|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page WoT main wiki|
13:12:06 <luca_barbato> topic: Notices
13:12:36 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1180|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1180 wot PR 1180 - Archival: Early and very late spring cleaning|
13:12:36 <luca_barbato> mm: There is a Breakout day coming, we have to decide if we want to propose something within the next week
13:13:06 <luca_barbato> ege: I proposed in the tracking issue
13:13:18 <kaz> q+
13:13:24 <luca_barbato> mm: If we have a draft proposal we can have a resolution by next week
13:15:06 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2024JanMar/0023.html Call for Breakouts (Member-only)
13:15:13 <kaz> ack e
13:15:45 <luca_barbato> mm: ege and mahda can you please prepare it?
13:15:52 <luca_barbato> ege: yes
13:15:55 <luca_barbato> mahda: yes
13:16:24 <luca_barbato> topic: Meetups
13:16:35 <kaz> ack k
13:16:40 <luca_barbato> mm: Ege can you summarize the meetup
13:17:29 <luca_barbato> ege: Yes, have a good presentation on connected microscopes
13:17:41 <luca_barbato> ... the video recording is now available
13:17:51 <kaz> i/Meetups/kaz: at that time, please clarify (1) session goal, (2) expected participants from which groups, (3) expected outcome, so that we can review the proposal quickly./
13:17:59 <kaz> i/at that time/scribenick: kaz/
13:18:05 <luca_barbato> ... the have a concrete requirement for manageable action
13:18:15 <kaz> i/Ege can/scribenick: luca_barbato/
13:18:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:18:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:18:45 <luca_barbato> ege: This week we'll have Ben Francis presenting Krellian
13:19:14 <luca_barbato> ege: March 14 we'll have Teutsche Telekom will present Matter
13:20:04 <kaz> q?
13:20:06 <luca_barbato> miz: The WoT CG JP will have an event in March 8th
13:20:15 <kaz> q+
13:20:29 <luca_barbato> mm: If would be possible to have the recording automatedly translated would be great
13:20:58 <kaz> s/If would/It would/
13:21:40 <kaz> ack k
13:21:56 <kaz> kaz: need to check with all the participants
13:21:59 <luca_barbato> ege: We mainly recording the speaker's presentation
13:22:24 <kaz> s/recording/record/
13:22:54 <kaz> s/We ma/For the WoT CG, we ma/
13:23:26 <luca_barbato> miz: The recording right now are available only for the W3C WoT-JP CG members
13:23:36 <kaz> s/members/participants/
13:24:25 <kaz> q+
13:24:49 <luca_barbato> ege: I participated to Nordic Smart Cities meeting, 40+ participants, a swedish company presented their solution for building assets management
13:25:49 <luca_barbato> kaz: How to deal with the relationship with this external group? We do not have to participate every time, but we should be happy to participate when invited
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13:26:47 <luca_barbato> mm: Likewise for the node.js event and the HiveMQ event
13:26:51 <kaz> s/How to deal with the relationship with this external group?/We still need to clarify the liaison with the Nordic CG./
13:27:02 <luca_barbato> topic: Schedule Changes
13:27:14 <kaz> s/invited/invited. I'll ping the Chair of the CG again./
13:27:22 <luca_barbato> mm: Easter and Golden week are coming
13:28:00 <kaz> i|Easter|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events Holidays and Upcoming Events|
13:28:02 <kaz> q?
13:28:04 <kaz> ack k
13:28:07 <kaz> q+ Ege
13:28:11 <luca_barbato> mm: How many won't be availeble to the first week of April
13:28:22 <kaz> ack e
13:28:39 <luca_barbato> ege: The 1-5 is a school holiday but not a bank holiday
13:29:02 <kaz> q+
13:29:29 <kaz> ack k
13:29:44 <luca_barbato> kaz: If people plan to have vacation please let us know notwithstanding
13:30:11 <luca_barbato> ege: The Cancellation section can be updated or cleaned up
13:30:13 <kaz> s/ notwithstanding//
13:30:26 <luca_barbato> ege: The marketing meeting next week is canceled
13:31:08 <luca_barbato> topic: IG Charter Renewal
13:31:25 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-charter-drafts/wot-ig-2023-draft.html Draft Charter
13:31:32 <kaz> s/Charter/IG Charter/
13:32:03 <Ege> q+
13:32:04 <luca_barbato> mm: In the Chairs call yesterday we worked on it, the plan for today is to look at the changes and possibly get consensus to have a final draft
13:32:41 <luca_barbato> subtopic: PR 149
13:33:04 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/149 PR 149 - Update IG-2023 Draft
13:33:33 <luca_barbato> mm: I left in the Timeline only what is strictly related to the IG
13:33:52 <kaz> q+
13:34:03 <luca_barbato> mm: objections to the timeline?
13:34:37 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/wot-ig-2021.html current IG Charter
13:34:47 <kaz> [[
13:34:49 <kaz> The IG will, during its lifetime, undertake different activities that may proceed in parallel. No specific timeline has been identified at this point, but the various activities are intended to be running for short periods of time (2-12 months), with the possibility of running a few iterations of them.
13:34:50 <kaz> ]]
13:35:24 <luca_barbato> kaz: After merging this, lets add also this paragraph
13:35:30 <luca_barbato> mm: I can do that right now
13:36:48 <kaz> s/paragraph/paragraph from the template for IG Charter/
13:36:58 <kaz> s/lets/let's/
13:37:54 <mjk> q?
13:37:59 <kaz> ack e
13:38:01 <kaz> ack k
13:38:51 <luca_barbato> mm: I'd use the text to replace the timeline
13:39:08 <luca_barbato> mm: to keep that simpler
13:39:46 <kaz> q+
13:39:50 <mlagally> q+
13:40:06 <luca_barbato> mm: 3 choices
13:40:15 <luca_barbato> ... - leave it alone
13:40:34 <luca_barbato> ... - The PR with the additional small clarification
13:40:55 <kaz> s/the template for IG Charter/the current IG Charter/
13:41:44 <luca_barbato> ege: I prefer the second option
13:41:47 <luca_barbato> lb: +1
13:42:15 <luca_barbato> ml: Not strong opinion but I would not commit to any timeline in the charter
13:42:38 <luca_barbato> mm: Objections to merge it?
13:43:10 <luca_barbato> kaz: My text is extracted from the past IG, we do not need to put dates for the Charter itself
13:43:23 <kaz> s/past/current/
13:43:29 <kaz> s/IG/IG Charter/
13:43:59 <kaz> s/for the Charter/for the IG Charter/
13:44:04 <luca_barbato> kaz: We should ask Mizushima-san for his opinion regarding the IG dealine
13:45:27 <kaz> s/IG dealine/deadline of the UC work/
13:45:49 <luca_barbato> miz: It would be good if we manage to finish by that time, but I'm not certain
13:46:06 <luca_barbato> mm: Objections to merge it?
13:46:10 <luca_barbato> <none>
13:46:17 <luca_barbato> subtopic: PR 151
13:46:35 <luca_barbato> mm: Objections to merge this?
13:46:37 <luca_barbato> <none>
13:46:49 <Ege> q+
13:46:55 <kaz> i|Obje|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/151 PR 151 - Minor: typo and missing space|
13:46:57 <kaz> ack k
13:46:59 <kaz> ack ml
13:47:24 <kaz> q+
13:47:46 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/relationship.md this is what I mean
13:48:13 <luca_barbato> subtopic: PR 150
13:48:14 <luca_barbato> q+
13:48:20 <McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/150
13:48:58 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/150|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/150 PR 150 - add SVG and PNG for group relationship figure for the 2024 IG Charter|
13:49:09 <luca_barbato> mm: We updated the date and regenerated the png
13:50:36 <mjk> q?
13:50:36 <luca_barbato> mk: The image might have WG**s** and other small wording changes
13:56:11 <kaz> q+
13:56:15 <kaz> ack e
13:56:27 <luca_barbato> ege: I prepared an additional diagram
13:56:50 <kaz> ack k
13:56:57 <luca_barbato> kaz: Ege's is more detailed, we'd like to use the simpler one for the Charter
13:57:13 <luca_barbato> ege: Please do communicate to me this outcome
13:58:07 <kaz> q?
13:58:10 <McCool_> ack k
13:58:20 <kaz> ack l
13:58:21 <McCool_> ack l
14:00:27 <kaz> s/Ege's is more detailed, we'd like to use the simpler one for the Charter/During the previous call about the IG Charter, we decided to use this simpler diagram./
14:01:48 <McCool_> proposal: Proceed with AC review for the draft IG charter given at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-ig-2023-draft.html and rendered at https://w3c.github.io/wot-charter-drafts/wot-ig-2023-draft.html
14:02:05 <McCool_> proposal: Proceed with AC review for the draft IG charter given at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-ig-2023-draft.html
14:02:28 <kaz> i|and render|kaz: Please remember that Charter is a basic planning document, so we don't need to describe all the details there. We can still continue the discussion about the relationship among WoT groups based on Ege's proposal.|
14:02:30 <McCool_> resolution: Proceed with AC review for the draft IG charter given at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-ig-2023-draft.html
14:02:35 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:02:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:02:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:02:46 <kaz> q+
14:03:18 <kaz> kaz: just make sure, the next step is my bringing this to the W3C Team's review
14:03:21 <kaz> ... then AC review
14:03:31 <kaz> i/just/scribenick: kaz/
14:03:45 <kaz> scribenick: luca_barbato
14:03:52 <kaz> topic: WoT Resources
14:03:57 <kaz> subtopic: TD
14:04:08 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
14:04:28 <kaz> ek: Kaz is updating the redirect setting for the TD resource
14:05:13 <kaz> topic: TF Reports
14:05:16 <kaz> subtopic: Marketing
14:06:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/476 wot-marketing PR 476 - Repository readme template
14:07:08 <kaz> ek: proposal for readme template in general
14:07:30 <kaz> (no objections; approved)
14:07:37 <kaz> mm: each TF should work on that
14:07:40 <luca_barbato> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwnwPRmb
14:07:51 <kaz> i/https/subtopic: Profile
14:07:58 <kaz> s/approved/merged/
14:08:15 <kaz> s|https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwnwPRmb|-> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwnwPRmb Doodle for Profile|
14:08:17 <kaz> mm: please respond
14:08:21 <kaz> q+
14:08:39 <kaz> ack k
14:09:00 <kaz> kaz: note that two of the proposed slots have overlaps with the existing calls
14:09:43 <kaz> mm: let's see the results next week then
14:10:08 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:10:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:10:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
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