IRC log of wot-discovery on 2024-02-19

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meeting: WoT Discovery

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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool

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agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#19_February_2024

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present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima

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present+ Jan_Romann

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scribenick: kaz

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topic: Agenda

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mm: (goes through the agenda for today)

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-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#19_February_2024 agenda for today

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mm: anything else?

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(none)

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q+

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ack k

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topic: Minutes

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-> https://www.w3.org/2024/01/15-wot-discovery-minutes.html Jan-15

13:12:13 [kaz]

mm: as already mentioned, I don't have much time this year...

13:12:24 [kaz]

... need somebody to handle Discovery as well

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... discussion on HTML for ontology

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... there is a new PR also

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...(goes though the minutes)

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... any objections for the minutes?

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(none)

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approved

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topic: Archive old agendas

13:14:50 [kaz]

mm: will do later

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topic: HTML for ontology

13:15:10 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537

13:15:21 [kaz]

subtopic: PR 537

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s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537||

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537 PR 537 - Expand rdfs:comments in Discovery ontology

13:16:07 [kaz]

mm: added actual content for the HTML?

13:16:12 [kaz]

jr: yes

13:16:24 [kaz]

mm: let's review it

13:16:37 [kaz]

... (goes through the changes one by one)

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537/files changes

13:17:06 [kaz]

mm: would like to merge this PR and try another iteration

13:18:31 [kaz]

... wondering about the style...

13:18:52 [kaz]

jr: that's the result of the tool based on the TTL file

13:19:02 [kaz]

mm: (looks into the TTL instead)

13:19:20 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537/files#diff-8ecbe58d6782c92f7e4f9eb09b29f0ec89aa91aad88e07b26c3ec997002f2222 changes in the TTL file

13:19:42 [kaz]

mm: think we need a couple of iterations

13:19:56 [kaz]

... and would be better to have a rendered version

13:20:54 [kaz]

-> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/b3b3df907ad5b7a71fa08f7e24c36f80bea571ed/context/discovery-ontology.html HTML preview of the PR changes

13:21:53 [kaz]

kaz: we can use HTML Preview for that purpose as above

13:21:57 [kaz]

mm: good to know

13:22:14 [kaz]

kaz: I'm OK with merging this PR itself as the first iteration

13:22:18 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533

13:22:28 [McCool]

tick off third box: comments filled in

13:22:47 [kaz]

i/533/(merged)/

13:23:26 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533 related Issue 533 - Update HTML for Discovery ontology|

13:24:04 [kaz]

subtopic: PR 538

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s/538/536

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/536 PR 536 - Render changelog in discovery ontology from RDF

13:24:53 [kaz]

mm: some branch conflicts

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... do you want to fix them, Jan?

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jr: will so

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s/so/do/

13:26:33 [kaz]

-> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/312c9b0e605977d702e3b1af95bcee9628e6cbd8/context/discovery-ontology.html HTML preview for discovery-ontology.html

13:28:20 [kaz]

(Jan has updated it)

13:28:34 [kaz]

-> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/wot-discovery/a6e4aee97f5666abb495755d631419153180a77a/context/discovery-ontology.html updated HTML preview

13:30:35 [kaz]

mm: still no introduction

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jr: updates on metadata

13:31:01 [kaz]

... this is a mocked version now

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... still checking the content locally

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q+

13:34:19 [kaz]

kaz: we still need further discussion about version management policy within the WG, but maybe we could call the initial placeholder "0.0.0" instead of "1.0.0", couldn't we?

13:36:53 [kaz]

mm: or we can use tentative versions for a while

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... and then change it to official versions after clarifying the versioning policy

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ack

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s/ack//

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ack k

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q+

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jr: (describe rederOntology.js)

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13:40:54 [kaz]

mm: should we change the version to "0.0.0" as suggested?

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kaz: or if this is a Alpha/Beta kind of test version, we could add "a" or "b" to the version number instead

13:41:43 [kaz]

mm: like "1.0.0-a2"

13:42:01 [kaz]

... meaning Alpha 2 version for "1.0.0"

13:42:35 [kaz]

... technically we've already published a "1.0.0" version for DID repository application

13:43:02 [kaz]

... don't want to change the version number which has been already published

13:43:54 [kaz]

jr: in that case, should the main branch be "1.0.0"?

13:44:06 [kaz]

mm: hmm

13:44:20 [kaz]

... let's see the ones which are already published again...

13:45:29 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/blob/main/discovery/v1/ontology/discovery-ontology.ttl discovery/v1/ontology/discovery-otology.ttl

13:47:06 [kaz]

mm: maybe we could create a "7-resources" under wot-discovery/publication to see how to handle the proposed changes

13:47:12 [kaz]

jr: makes sense

13:47:27 [McCool]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/wot-discovery/main/publication/6-resources/ontology/discovery-ontology.ttl

13:47:53 [kaz]

q+

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ack k

13:49:14 [kaz]

kaz: using the "publication" area under wot-discovery would be confusing because it's not related to spec publication itself

13:49:38 [kaz]

... so would be better to have a "draft" area under the wot-resources repository instead

13:49:40 [kaz]

mm: yeah

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... something like wot-resources/discovery/Alpha

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... or draft

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... anyway, still need to fix this PR itself

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jr: yeah

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ack k

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q+

13:52:15 [kaz]

mm: then discuss this next week

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jr: ok

13:53:41 [kaz]

kaz: another comment on the PR

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... regarding the tool generating the HTML from TTL, we should collaborate with the TD TF

13:54:21 [kaz]

mm: right

13:55:02 [kaz]

topic: DID registry

13:55:05 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486

13:55:36 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486|-">https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486|-> https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486 DID PR 486 - Add WotThing and WotDirectory service types

13:56:00 [kaz]

mm: will update the PR and then ping the DID guys

13:56:35 [kaz]

... btw, wondering about domain and range for ontology

13:57:34 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/541 new Issue 541 - Add domain and range to ontology

13:57:48 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534

13:58:03 [kaz]

i|534|topic: Use Cases and Requirements|

13:58:31 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534 Issue 534 - Link Work Items to Requirements in UC&R document|

13:58:52 [kaz]

q+

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ack k

13:59:21 [Mizushima]

q+

13:59:36 [kaz]

kaz: each smaller PR from Discovery TF has been merged

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... but we still need to clarify the whole process for Use Cases

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... then need to talk about how to deal with further feedback from TFs including Discovery

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miz: agree

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... as Kaz mentioned, we need to clarify the whole process for Use Cases first

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... then need to clarify how to deal with feedback from TFs

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mm: exactly

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[adjourned]

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rrsagent, make log public

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

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chair: McCool

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

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