13:03:54 RRSAgent has joined #wot-discovery 13:03:58 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/02/19-wot-discovery-irc 13:04:02 meeting: WoT Discovery 13:04:20 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool 13:06:34 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#19_February_2024 13:07:07 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:08:47 present+ Jan_Romann 13:08:54 scribenick: kaz 13:09:24 JKRhb has joined #wot-discovery 13:10:43 topic: Agenda 13:10:50 mm: (goes through the agenda for today) 13:10:55 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#19_February_2024 agenda for today 13:11:01 mm: anything else? 13:11:09 (none) 13:11:28 q+ 13:11:36 ack k 13:11:41 topic: Minutes 13:11:53 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/01/15-wot-discovery-minutes.html Jan-15 13:12:13 mm: as already mentioned, I don't have much time this year... 13:12:24 ... need somebody to handle Discovery as well 13:13:10 ... discussion on HTML for ontology 13:13:18 ... there is a new PR also 13:13:28 ...(goes though the minutes) 13:14:21 ... any objections for the minutes? 13:14:23 (none) 13:14:25 approved 13:14:46 topic: Archive old agendas 13:14:50 mm: will do later 13:14:55 topic: HTML for ontology 13:15:10 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537 13:15:21 subtopic: PR 537 13:15:28 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537|| 13:16:00 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537 PR 537 - Expand rdfs:comments in Discovery ontology 13:16:07 mm: added actual content for the HTML? 13:16:12 jr: yes 13:16:24 mm: let's review it 13:16:37 ... (goes through the changes one by one) 13:16:46 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537/files changes 13:17:06 mm: would like to merge this PR and try another iteration 13:18:31 ... wondering about the style... 13:18:52 jr: that's the result of the tool based on the TTL file 13:19:02 mm: (looks into the TTL instead) 13:19:20 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/537/files#diff-8ecbe58d6782c92f7e4f9eb09b29f0ec89aa91aad88e07b26c3ec997002f2222 changes in the TTL file 13:19:42 mm: think we need a couple of iterations 13:19:56 ... and would be better to have a rendered version 13:20:54 -> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/b3b3df907ad5b7a71fa08f7e24c36f80bea571ed/context/discovery-ontology.html HTML preview of the PR changes 13:21:53 kaz: we can use HTML Preview for that purpose as above 13:21:57 mm: good to know 13:22:14 kaz: I'm OK with merging this PR itself as the first iteration 13:22:18 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533 13:22:28 tick off third box: comments filled in 13:22:47 i/533/(merged)/ 13:23:26 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533 related Issue 533 - Update HTML for Discovery ontology| 13:24:04 subtopic: PR 538 13:24:14 s/538/536 13:24:41 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/536 PR 536 - Render changelog in discovery ontology from RDF 13:24:53 mm: some branch conflicts 13:25:28 ... do you want to fix them, Jan? 13:25:32 jr: will so 13:25:36 s/so/do/ 13:26:33 -> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/312c9b0e605977d702e3b1af95bcee9628e6cbd8/context/discovery-ontology.html HTML preview for discovery-ontology.html 13:28:20 (Jan has updated it) 13:28:34 -> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/wot-discovery/a6e4aee97f5666abb495755d631419153180a77a/context/discovery-ontology.html updated HTML preview 13:30:35 mm: still no introduction 13:30:40 jr: updates on metadata 13:31:01 ... this is a mocked version now 13:31:18 ... still checking the content locally 13:32:08 q+ 13:34:19 kaz: we still need further discussion about version management policy within the WG, but maybe we could call the initial placeholder "0.0.0" instead of "1.0.0", couldn't we? 13:36:53 mm: or we can use tentative versions for a while 13:37:13 ... and then change it to official versions after clarifying the versioning policy 13:37:43 ack 13:37:47 s/ack// 13:37:51 ack k 13:37:51 q+ 13:38:06 jr: (describe rederOntology.js) 13:40:03 Mizushima has joined #wot-discovery 13:40:54 mm: should we change the version to "0.0.0" as suggested? 13:41:32 kaz: or if this is a Alpha/Beta kind of test version, we could add "a" or "b" to the version number instead 13:41:43 mm: like "1.0.0-a2" 13:42:01 ... meaning Alpha 2 version for "1.0.0" 13:42:35 ... technically we've already published a "1.0.0" version for DID repository application 13:43:02 ... don't want to change the version number which has been already published 13:43:54 jr: in that case, should the main branch be "1.0.0"? 13:44:06 mm: hmm 13:44:20 ... let's see the ones which are already published again... 13:45:29 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/blob/main/discovery/v1/ontology/discovery-ontology.ttl discovery/v1/ontology/discovery-otology.ttl 13:47:06 mm: maybe we could create a "7-resources" under wot-discovery/publication to see how to handle the proposed changes 13:47:12 jr: makes sense 13:47:27 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/wot-discovery/main/publication/6-resources/ontology/discovery-ontology.ttl 13:47:53 q+ 13:48:38 ack k 13:49:14 kaz: using the "publication" area under wot-discovery would be confusing because it's not related to spec publication itself 13:49:38 ... so would be better to have a "draft" area under the wot-resources repository instead 13:49:40 mm: yeah 13:50:20 ... something like wot-resources/discovery/Alpha 13:50:49 ... or draft 13:51:28 ... anyway, still need to fix this PR itself 13:51:32 jr: yeah 13:51:36 ack k 13:51:37 q+ 13:52:15 mm: then discuss this next week 13:52:17 jr: ok 13:53:41 kaz: another comment on the PR 13:54:18 ... regarding the tool generating the HTML from TTL, we should collaborate with the TD TF 13:54:21 mm: right 13:55:02 topic: DID registry 13:55:05 https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486 13:55:36 s|https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486|-> https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486 DID PR 486 - Add WotThing and WotDirectory service types 13:56:00 mm: will update the PR and then ping the DID guys 13:56:35 ... btw, wondering about domain and range for ontology 13:57:34 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/541 new Issue 541 - Add domain and range to ontology 13:57:48 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534 13:58:03 i|534|topic: Use Cases and Requirements| 13:58:31 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534 Issue 534 - Link Work Items to Requirements in UC&R document| 13:58:52 q+ 13:59:11 ack k 13:59:21 q+ 13:59:36 kaz: each smaller PR from Discovery TF has been merged 13:59:52 ... but we still need to clarify the whole process for Use Cases 14:00:17 ... then need to talk about how to deal with further feedback from TFs including Discovery 14:00:22 miz: agree 14:00:56 ... as Kaz mentioned, we need to clarify the whole process for Use Cases first 14:01:12 ... then need to clarify how to deal with feedback from TFs 14:01:16 mm: exactly 14:01:19 [adjourned] 14:01:26 rrsagent, make log public 14:01:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:31 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:05:36 Mizushima has left #wot-discovery 14:07:03 chair: McCool 14:07:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:07:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 15:59:46 Zakim has left #wot-discovery 16:12:16 Ege has joined #wot-discovery