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12:02:24 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
12:02:59 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Jan_Romann
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12:10:30 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:11:40 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
12:12:03 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#February_5%2C_2024
12:12:18 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:12:25 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/01/29-wot-script-minutes.html Jan-29
12:12:56 <kaz> ca: have reviewed them
12:13:28 <kaz> ... any objections?
12:16:07 <kaz> (some minor problem with the CSS style, etc.)
12:16:17 <kaz> regrets+ Zoltan
12:16:38 <kaz> approved
12:16:52 <kaz> topic: Cancellations
12:17:10 <kaz> ca: next week, the Scripting API call will be cancelled
12:17:38 <kaz> topic: Feedback from TD TF
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12:19:17 <kaz> ca: joint discussion with the TD TF
12:19:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Await-for-td Issues with wait-for-td label
12:20:23 <dape> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:20:36 <kaz> ... about meta operation work item, etc.
12:21:29 <kaz> q+
12:22:02 <kaz> kaz: think we should clarify the procedure for the joint discussion as well
12:22:19 <kaz> ... how to continue the collaborative discussion, etc.
12:22:20 <kaz> ack k
12:22:24 <kaz> ca: yeah
12:22:33 <kaz> ... should clarify our goals, etc.
12:22:39 <kaz> q?
12:22:47 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:22:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:22:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:23:03 <kaz> topic: PRs
12:23:20 <kaz> subtopic: PR 534
12:23:32 <cris_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/534
12:23:50 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/534|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/534 PR 534 - fix(InteractionOutput): don't require schema.type in value function|
12:24:09 <kaz> jr: discussion over node-wot as well
12:24:30 <kaz> ... schemas can be more complex
12:24:44 <kaz> ... multiple different schemas are possible
12:25:15 <kaz> ... this PR moves one proposal to summarize the discussion so far
12:25:32 <kaz> ... we need to remove (some of) the type requirements
12:25:41 <kaz> ... proposing to add constraints
12:26:21 <kaz> ... adding this suggestion might not make sense for some cases
12:26:26 <dape> q+
12:26:37 <kaz> ... not sure if we can merge PR now
12:26:38 <cris_> q+
12:26:43 <kaz> ... maybe need some more discussion
12:28:24 <kaz> q+
12:28:51 <kaz> -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/JKRhb/wot-scripting-api/pull/534.html#the-check-data-schema-algorithm rendered HTML - 7.2.3 The check data schema algorithm
12:28:59 <kaz> dp: maybe we can shift the validator
12:29:18 <kaz> ... the possible downside is valiadation without any library
12:29:36 <kaz> ... not sure if we want to put any additional requirement
12:29:39 <dape> ack dape
12:29:40 <kaz> ca: good pint
12:29:44 <kaz> s/ping/point
12:29:55 <dape> s/pint/point
12:29:57 <kaz> ... we're using JSON Schema for two purposes
12:30:18 <kaz> ... for scripting itself and  protocol binding applications
12:30:31 <kaz> ... put requirements for our logic which is not existing yet
12:31:02 <kaz> ... what to be done for random bytes?
12:31:17 <kaz> ... would it be a real requirement?
12:32:20 <kaz> ... not sure if everything is allowed by TD
12:32:40 <JKRhb> q+
12:32:41 <cris_> ack c
12:32:41 <kaz> ... anyway JSONSchema is not a standard
12:34:00 <kaz> ack k
12:34:04 <kaz> kaz: agree
12:34:19 <kaz> ... JSONSchema is only one possible mechanism for validation
12:34:45 <kaz> ... we should start with our own spec text for Scripting API
12:35:02 <kaz> ... if we can apply JSONSchema for that purpose luckily, that's fine
12:35:05 <kaz> ca: agree
12:35:18 <kaz> ack k
12:35:24 <kaz> jr: maybe we can't cite JSONSchema
12:35:41 <kaz> ... but need to define necessary algorithm ourselves
12:36:01 <kaz> ca: not sure about the expected data mapping here completely
12:36:17 <kaz> ... e.g., around the second channel data
12:36:26 <kaz> ... it's not trivial about the mapping
12:36:32 <dape> q+
12:36:37 <kaz> ... have to look into the detailed use cases
12:36:43 <kaz> ... tx for your input, Jan
12:36:46 <kaz> ack jk
12:37:07 <kaz> dp: we've been already defining some simple form of JSONSchema here
12:37:17 <kaz> ... we could continue to work on that direction
12:37:25 <kaz> ... or can also work on one-off definition
12:37:42 <kaz> ... but for simplicity, reducing the complexity would be better
12:37:58 <kaz> ... e.g., no need for validation on our own
12:38:25 <kaz> ... would try to cover them with too strict restriction with JSONSchema
12:38:49 <kaz> ca: would be kind of compromise for us until we clarify the detail on the mapping payload
12:39:09 <kaz> ... we should not work on the detail now
12:41:19 <kaz> ... btw, everything in the table 4 at 5.3.1.2 InteractonAffordance from WoT Thing Description is optional
12:41:38 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#interactionaffordance TD spec ED - 5.3.1.2 InteractionAffordance
12:42:20 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#dataschema TD spec ED - 5.3.2.1 DataSchema
12:42:29 <kaz> s|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#interactionaffordance TD spec ED - 5.3.1.2 InteractionAffordance||
12:42:35 <dape> q?
12:42:38 <dape> ack dape
12:43:09 <kaz> s/at 5.3.1.2 InteractonAffordance/at "5.3.2.1 DataSchema"/
12:43:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:43:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:43:50 <kaz> ca: (adds comments to PR 534)
12:44:24 <kaz> q|
12:44:27 <kaz> s/q|//
12:44:28 <kaz> q+
12:45:29 <kaz> ack k
12:45:43 <kaz> kaz: which vocabulary terms to be handled here?
12:46:49 <kaz> ca: think we need four of them: @@@
12:47:20 <kaz> s/@@@/oneOf, const, enum, @@1/
12:47:26 <kaz> q+
12:47:39 <kaz> s/@@1/default/
12:47:55 <kaz> dp: can put "?" for "default" here?
12:48:05 <kaz> ca: (put "?" to "default")
12:48:25 <kaz> ... related to Issue 537
12:48:49 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/537 Issue 537 - Proposal: use TD default values
12:49:26 <kaz> ca: Jan, can you work on "default"
12:49:33 <kaz> s/t"/t"?/
12:49:37 <kaz> jr: ok
12:49:47 <cris_> q?
12:50:15 <kaz> ack k
12:50:33 <kaz> kaz: it would be nicer to have some brief description for each parameter
12:50:51 <kaz> ... e.g., in which case for what, we need "enum"
12:50:55 <kaz> ca: yeah
12:51:09 <JKRhb> +1
12:51:17 <kaz> ... important to describe the use cases
12:51:49 <kaz> ... maybe need some additional description for that
12:52:52 <kaz> subtopic: PR 538
12:53:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/538 PR 538 - Type definition generator information to readme
12:53:15 <kaz> dp: typo?
12:53:46 <kaz> s/typo?/typo causing a merge conflict?/
12:53:48 <kaz> ca: ah
12:54:11 <kaz> dp: can copy the first line
12:54:31 <dape> q?
12:54:37 <kaz> merged
12:54:54 <kaz> subtopic: PR 543
12:55:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/543 PR 543 - fix: respec warnings about anchor/link
12:55:19 <kaz> dp: simply fixes
12:55:30 <kaz> s/fixes/fixes about ReSpec issues/
12:55:58 <kaz> merged
12:56:16 <kaz> subtopic: PR 544
12:56:28 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/544 PR 544 - fix: minor capitalization typo
12:56:32 <kaz> ca: another typo fix
12:58:24 <kaz> q+
12:58:47 <kaz> ack k
12:59:22 <kaz> kaz: do we want to use "DoS" acronym for the title as well?
12:59:44 <kaz> ... "DoS" is more popular as a possible risk than "Denial of Service"
12:59:47 <kaz> ca: ok
12:59:58 <kaz> ... (adds "(DoS)" to the title too)
13:00:00 <kaz> merged
13:00:38 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:00:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
13:01:15 <kaz> s/[adjourned]//
13:01:18 <kaz> topic: Next call
13:01:29 <kaz> ca: let's continue the discussion next time
13:01:39 <kaz> ... remember we won't have the call next week on Feb 12
13:01:43 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:01:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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