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17:01:59 <Zakim> Meeting: ARIA Editors
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17:04:14 <agendabot> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2024Jan/0000.html
17:04:14 <agendabot> clear agenda
17:04:14 <agendabot> agenda+ [new] aria-common #109 remove/replace aria-wg-active.md and
17:04:14 <agendabot> agenda+ [new] refs to HTML terms aria #1876
17:04:16 <agendabot> agenda+ [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria #2073)
17:04:19 <agendabot> agenda+ [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common #104 & PR #106)
17:04:22 <agendabot> agenda+ [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? (aria #2055)
17:04:25 <agendabot> agenda+ [on Hold] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99
17:04:28 <agendabot> agenda+ [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen)
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17:04:57 <spectranaut_> agenda?
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17:11:11 <pkra> scribe pkra
17:11:15 <pkra> scribe, pkra
17:11:17 <pkra> scribe: pkra
17:11:26 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:11:26 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- [new] aria-common #109 remove/replace aria-wg-active.md and -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:12:00 <pkra> bryan: accname seems ready to go
17:12:15 <pkra> daniel: yes, one odd plural language problem left.
17:12:23 <pkra> https://github.com/w3c/aria-common/issues/109
17:12:24 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
17:12:24 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, dmontalvo
17:12:36 <spectranaut_> https://github.com/w3c/aria-common/issues/109
17:13:04 <pkra> valerie: spawned by aria PR from new contributor.
17:13:19 <pkra> ... was this problem overlooked?
17:13:31 <pkra> pkra: they're still used?
17:13:34 <pkra> valerie: yes.
17:13:40 <dmontalvo> zakim, agenda?
17:13:40 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda:
17:13:41 <Zakim> 1. [new] aria-common #109 remove/replace aria-wg-active.md and [from agendabot]
17:13:41 <Zakim> 2. [new] refs to HTML terms aria #1876 [from agendabot]
17:13:41 <Zakim> 3. [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria #2073) [from agendabot]
17:13:42 <Zakim> 4. [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common #104 & PR #106) [from agendabot]
17:13:42 <Zakim> 5. [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? (aria #2055) [from agendabot]
17:13:43 <Zakim> 6. [on Hold] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99 [from agendabot]
17:13:43 <Zakim> 7. [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen) [from agendabot]
17:13:44 <pkra> ... in aria draft.
17:13:56 <pkra> ... let me look.
17:14:01 <pkra> ... yes, looks like it.
17:14:21 <pkra> pkra: ok, so question is can we pull it from W3C data?
17:14:38 <pkra> ... contributions are via github
17:14:45 <pkra> ... but membership seems like it should come from W3C.
17:15:05 <pkra> valerie: the list is so out of date though.
17:15:18 <pkra> pkra: last commit to https://github.com/w3c/aria-common/blob/main/acknowledgements/aria-wg-participants.html
17:15:20 <pkra> ... 5 years ago.
17:15:36 <pkra> ... daniel, is there automation for this?
17:15:59 <spectranaut_> this out of date list is in CR: https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/WD-wai-aria-1.3-20240123/#ack_group
17:16:12 <pkra> daniel: I don't think there's a way to do that.
17:16:26 <pkra> valerie: we should update it then!
17:16:29 <pkra> pkra: +1
17:16:43 <pkra> Daniel: there are pages generated with participants lists.
17:16:47 <pkra> ... should be an API to grab that.
17:17:19 <pkra> pkra: would be great to build that into spec production
17:17:41 <pkra> valerie: this should be updated all the time, no?
17:17:48 <pkra> pkra: +1
17:18:10 <pkra> daniel: this should be doable.
17:18:15 <pkra> pkra: assign to daniel.
17:18:31 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:18:31 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [new] refs to HTML terms aria #1876 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:19:19 <pkra> pkra: this is about https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1876#discussion_r1449518411
17:19:35 <pkra> ... a comment from jcraig.
17:20:02 <pkra> ... about HTML references not resolving.
17:21:16 <pkra> ... my question is: why aren't they resolving and how do we do automatically do it?
17:21:32 <spectranaut_> https://respec.org/xref/?term=reflect
17:21:42 <pkra> ... I don't remember how to resolve it.
17:22:18 <pkra> valerie: this link should be the official way?
17:23:04 <pkra> ... this is used in the spec, too.
17:23:06 <pkra> ... so it should work.
17:23:53 <pkra> pkra: thanks!
17:24:01 <pkra> ... I'll comment
17:24:07 <pkra> zakim, next item.
17:24:07 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria #2073) -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:24:42 <pkra> pkra: this really needs the aria.js rewrite.
17:24:46 <pkra> zakim, close item
17:24:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', pkra
17:24:48 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:24:48 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
17:24:49 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:24:49 <Zakim> 4. [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common #104 & PR #106) [from agendabot]
17:24:52 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:24:52 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common #104 & PR #106) -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:25:03 <pkra> valerie: I haven't had time yet.
17:31:48 <pkra> pkra: I'm happy with the code. roleInfo makes me unhappy. I feel it's not correct but I didn't feel comfortable changing it.
17:32:00 <pkra> ... roleInfo with 1.3 seems off. I tried to make sure that the PR doesn't change it.
17:33:16 <pkra> ... also some bugs from the jquery days.
17:33:22 <pkra> valerie: I hope to have time soon.
17:33:26 <pkra> pkra: maybe sit down together.
17:33:59 <pkra> valerie: where is roleInfo used?
17:35:25 <pkra> pkra: children specs, dpub aria, graphics aria, I think
17:35:33 <pkra> valerie: do they run the same code?
17:37:35 <pkra> pkra: no, that's separate and much the same but I haven't got to that.
17:38:53 <pkra> valerie: I'll find time.
17:39:10 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:39:10 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? (aria #2055) -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:39:33 <pkra> pkra: news from deep dive?
17:39:57 <pkra> valerie: jcraig is coming around to the idea of implementation before merge
17:40:10 <pkra> ... then there's a the link issue
17:40:43 <pkra> ... jcraig said he sees more benefit
17:40:51 <pkra> ... question is: do we agree this will help us out?
17:41:10 <pkra> ... jcraig still wants issues in different repos
17:41:34 <pkra> ... I feel like it will end up in aria repo
17:41:42 <pkra> ... even though repos are helpful for us editors
17:42:31 <pkra> pkra: I feel like it could work. CSSWG has much more surface but single repo
17:42:45 <pkra> valerie: what would the work be?
17:43:54 <pkra> pkra: automation for EDs. Their github URLs come to mind
17:43:58 <pkra> ... but seems doable
17:44:29 <pkra> valerie: how does it relate to evergreen? Do we need everything in evergreen?
17:44:32 <pkra> pkra: also control.
17:45:01 <pkra> ... which ones we can control.
17:46:25 <pkra> valerie: those outside our control need to stay in their own repos
17:46:28 <pkra> ... timeline
17:46:36 <pkra> ... maybe a F2F just working on this.
17:47:01 <pkra> pkra: could be virtual, too.
17:49:12 <pkra> valerie: I think a dedicated work effort would be good.
17:49:43 <pkra> valerie: TPAC maybe
17:51:24 <pkra> ... in any case, let's make an issue to track a "work effort"
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17:53:34 <pkra> zakim, end meeting
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