W3C

– DRAFT –
XForms WG Teleconference

19 January 2024

Attendees

Present
Alain, Erik, Steven
Regrets
-
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Meeting minutes

Tracker

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jan/0007

Steven: They've stopped the tracker
… I will research how to replace

FDA

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jan/0003

Steven: Nice to be able to point to a large organisation using XForms

Alain: I sent an emal 1st May about FDA as well

Meeting frequency

[No link]

Steven: We could go two weekly since calls are so short

Alain: Weekly short meetings are fine

Steven: OK keep as is

control/shared/signal revised draft spec text - comments?

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2023Oct/0002

Erik: Continues

Steven: Would be nice to wrap soon

ACTION-2346: Think about the properties of events crossing xforms

boundaries [Erik]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2023Sep/0008

Erik: Continues

Sorting

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jan/0008

What do you feel about the approach?

Erik: You could imagine sorted data vs sorted display
… two different things

Alain: I think both are important

Steven: I see

Alain: Usually the instance doesn't need to be sorted.

Steven: I'll think more about the two cases, and come back to it.

Alain: Look at XQuery, descending, ascending, etc.

Erik: Look at the XPath3 sorting function

Erik: We have a usecase for sorting in the structure
… a list of errors, inserted in the proper location
… ... we implement it natively, but not with a bind
… it would be a benefit to have something standard

ACTION: Steven to refine thinking on sort

[Back] event

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Jan/0008

Steven: Do either of you respond to back?

Erik: See my mail
… the browsers provide a limited unload, doesn't do much
… what we do, the data may not have been saved,
… if the data is saved we let the event happen
… if not, we we do a message
… the XForm doesn't handle it, but the system
… we know if data has been changed

Steven: Needs research. We can't be the only ones who have this problem

Alain to summarise bi-directional text issues

https://www.w3.org/2023/12/08-forms-minutes.html#a02

ACTION: Steven to read bidi document

AOB

Steven: XML Prague call is open; I've already submitted an XForms tutorial

Summary of action items

  1. Steven to refine thinking on sort
  2. Steven to read bidi document
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/M19/19

No scribenick or scribe found. Guessed: Steven

All speakers: Alain, Erik, Steven

Active on IRC: Steven