IRC log of miniapp on 2023-12-14

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), xiaoqian
07:58:12 [xiaoqian]
meeting: MiniApps WG & CG Monthly Call
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present+ martin, Dan_Zhou
08:10:55 [xiaoqian]
topic: MiniApps Vendors' Meet-up
08:12:13 [xiaoqian]
Dan: shall we write a document about how to implement the specs?
08:12:38 [xiaoqian]
... I plan to start from Addressing, then Manifest and Packaging
08:13:00 [xiaoqian]
... perhaps taking the Baidu MiniApps as an example
08:13:15 [xiaoqian]
... we should encourage the other vendors to do so
08:14:19 [xiaoqian]
Martin: we can do so for Harmony OS as well
08:17:46 [xiaoqian]
subtopic: agenda of the meet-up
08:18:20 [xiaoqian]
martin: I have some examples of tests, we can generate the report easily
08:18:33 [xiaoqian]
... I'll present the tool and the examples in the meet-up
08:19:47 [xiaoqian]
Dan: the Panel Discussions are the most challenging part
08:20:09 [xiaoqian]
martin: we should start this kind of discussion as soon as possible, will be a good discussion
08:20:19 [xiaoqian]
[[
08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
* Roundtable introduction + introduction to each mini program/quick application (voluntary) - all participants
08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
*” MiniApp Technical Specification - Addressing" progress and follow-up work plan
08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
——Zhou Dan (Co-Chair of W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
* ”MiniApp Technical Specification - Lifecycle" progress and follow-up work plan - An Qing (co-chairman of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:43 [xiaoqian]
* Progress and follow-up work plans of "MiniApp Technical Specification - Packaging", "MiniApp Technical Specification - Manifest" and "MiniApp Incubation Proposal - UI Component" - Martin Alvarez-Espinar (Co-Chair of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:43 [xiaoqian]
* MiniApp Technical Specification Testing - Martin Alvarez-Espinar (Co-Chair of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:43 [xiaoqian]
* Panel Discussion 1: Opportunities and Challenges of MiniApps Standard Implementation - All Participants
08:20:44 [xiaoqian]
Coffee break + free discussion
08:20:44 [xiaoqian]
* Panel Discussion 2: MiniApps Standard Implementation and Implementation Planning - All Participants
08:20:46 [xiaoqian]
* Discussion summary
08:20:50 [xiaoqian]
]]
08:21:25 [xiaoqian]
martin: I got some feedbacks from a few dev events back in July
08:21:38 [xiaoqian]
... interest from the Servo browser
08:22:04 [xiaoqian]
... good to have some browsers in the field
08:23:13 [xiaoqian]
xiaoqian: which of our specs are ready for implementation?
08:23:30 [xiaoqian]
Dan: Addressing is ready unless there is FO
08:23:46 [xiaoqian]
martin: and most of the Manifest and the Packaging
08:24:12 [xiaoqian]
... there were feedbacks about improving security, in discussion with the TAG
08:24:33 [xiaoqian]
... Manifest is solid
08:25:47 [xiaoqian]
... there is another issue about aligning with other specs about change of names, should be resolved very quickly
08:26:09 [xiaoqian]
... also a minor issue with the id
08:26:42 [xiaoqian]
... a proposal about content security policy
08:28:26 [xiaoqian]
xiaoqian: this will be a good topic for Panel Discussion 1
08:29:40 [xiaoqian]
martin: otherwise, not much news on Manifest and Packaging
08:30:56 [xiaoqian]
... thinking about some mechanism to improve the security model and permission
08:31:29 [xiaoqian]
... like in the dev console
08:32:08 [xiaoqian]
... good to include other vendors' mechanism as well if there is any
08:32:39 [xiaoqian]
... UA need to consider how to prevent the potential risks
08:32:57 [xiaoqian]
s/UA/UAs
08:33:34 [xiaoqian]
... using https and digital signatures
08:34:09 [xiaoqian]
... to indicate where you are downloading the resources from
08:36:03 [xiaoqian]
QingAn: we received a few feedback from our product team recently, there might be changes
08:36:28 [xiaoqian]
... we may heard more details in next week's vendors' meet-up
08:37:30 [xiaoqian]
Dan: could you introduce how to implement the Lifecycle spec in next week's meeting?
08:38:02 [xiaoqian]
QingAn: it's challenging, because the gaps in each platform
08:38:15 [xiaoqian]
Martin: it's understandable
08:39:09 [xiaoqian]
... that's why it's important to start the implementation asap
08:39:42 [xiaoqian]
Dan: as for Addressing, I have closed a few issues
08:40:56 [xiaoqian]
... I've sent a CfC for the FPWD
08:42:16 [xiaoqian]
martin: not much update on UIComponents
08:44:46 [xiaoqian]
xiaoqian: we will send the details about the meet-up to the group later this week
08:45:04 [xiaoqian]
topic: next week
08:45:29 [xiaoqian]
Dan: how about 25 Jan? not sure about your Chinese New Year plans
08:45:43 [xiaoqian]
martin: wfm
08:50:33 [xiaoqian]
[adjourned]
08:50:44 [xiaoqian]
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08:51:19 [xiaoqian]
present+ tomayac, QingAn
08:51:36 [xiaoqian]
chair: Dan_Zhou
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