IRC log of miniapp on 2023-12-14
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), xiaoqian
- 07:58:12 [xiaoqian]
- meeting: MiniApps WG & CG Monthly Call
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- present+ martin, Dan_Zhou
- 08:10:55 [xiaoqian]
- topic: MiniApps Vendors' Meet-up
- 08:12:13 [xiaoqian]
- Dan: shall we write a document about how to implement the specs?
- 08:12:38 [xiaoqian]
- ... I plan to start from Addressing, then Manifest and Packaging
- 08:13:00 [xiaoqian]
- ... perhaps taking the Baidu MiniApps as an example
- 08:13:15 [xiaoqian]
- ... we should encourage the other vendors to do so
- 08:14:19 [xiaoqian]
- Martin: we can do so for Harmony OS as well
- 08:17:46 [xiaoqian]
- subtopic: agenda of the meet-up
- 08:18:20 [xiaoqian]
- martin: I have some examples of tests, we can generate the report easily
- 08:18:33 [xiaoqian]
- ... I'll present the tool and the examples in the meet-up
- 08:19:47 [xiaoqian]
- Dan: the Panel Discussions are the most challenging part
- 08:20:09 [xiaoqian]
- martin: we should start this kind of discussion as soon as possible, will be a good discussion
- 08:20:19 [xiaoqian]
- [[
- 08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
- * Roundtable introduction + introduction to each mini program/quick application (voluntary) - all participants
- 08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
- *” MiniApp Technical Specification - Addressing" progress and follow-up work plan
- 08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
- ——Zhou Dan (Co-Chair of W3C MiniApps Working Group)
- 08:20:30 [xiaoqian]
- * ”MiniApp Technical Specification - Lifecycle" progress and follow-up work plan - An Qing (co-chairman of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
- 08:20:43 [xiaoqian]
- * Progress and follow-up work plans of "MiniApp Technical Specification - Packaging", "MiniApp Technical Specification - Manifest" and "MiniApp Incubation Proposal - UI Component" - Martin Alvarez-Espinar (Co-Chair of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
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- * MiniApp Technical Specification Testing - Martin Alvarez-Espinar (Co-Chair of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
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- * Panel Discussion 1: Opportunities and Challenges of MiniApps Standard Implementation - All Participants
- 08:20:44 [xiaoqian]
- Coffee break + free discussion
- 08:20:44 [xiaoqian]
- * Panel Discussion 2: MiniApps Standard Implementation and Implementation Planning - All Participants
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- * Discussion summary
- 08:20:50 [xiaoqian]
- ]]
- 08:21:25 [xiaoqian]
- martin: I got some feedbacks from a few dev events back in July
- 08:21:38 [xiaoqian]
- ... interest from the Servo browser
- 08:22:04 [xiaoqian]
- ... good to have some browsers in the field
- 08:23:13 [xiaoqian]
- xiaoqian: which of our specs are ready for implementation?
- 08:23:30 [xiaoqian]
- Dan: Addressing is ready unless there is FO
- 08:23:46 [xiaoqian]
- martin: and most of the Manifest and the Packaging
- 08:24:12 [xiaoqian]
- ... there were feedbacks about improving security, in discussion with the TAG
- 08:24:33 [xiaoqian]
- ... Manifest is solid
- 08:25:47 [xiaoqian]
- ... there is another issue about aligning with other specs about change of names, should be resolved very quickly
- 08:26:09 [xiaoqian]
- ... also a minor issue with the id
- 08:26:42 [xiaoqian]
- ... a proposal about content security policy
- 08:28:26 [xiaoqian]
- xiaoqian: this will be a good topic for Panel Discussion 1
- 08:29:40 [xiaoqian]
- martin: otherwise, not much news on Manifest and Packaging
- 08:30:56 [xiaoqian]
- ... thinking about some mechanism to improve the security model and permission
- 08:31:29 [xiaoqian]
- ... like in the dev console
- 08:32:08 [xiaoqian]
- ... good to include other vendors' mechanism as well if there is any
- 08:32:39 [xiaoqian]
- ... UA need to consider how to prevent the potential risks
- 08:32:57 [xiaoqian]
- s/UA/UAs
- 08:33:34 [xiaoqian]
- ... using https and digital signatures
- 08:34:09 [xiaoqian]
- ... to indicate where you are downloading the resources from
- 08:36:03 [xiaoqian]
- QingAn: we received a few feedback from our product team recently, there might be changes
- 08:36:28 [xiaoqian]
- ... we may heard more details in next week's vendors' meet-up
- 08:37:30 [xiaoqian]
- Dan: could you introduce how to implement the Lifecycle spec in next week's meeting?
- 08:38:02 [xiaoqian]
- QingAn: it's challenging, because the gaps in each platform
- 08:38:15 [xiaoqian]
- Martin: it's understandable
- 08:39:09 [xiaoqian]
- ... that's why it's important to start the implementation asap
- 08:39:42 [xiaoqian]
- Dan: as for Addressing, I have closed a few issues
- 08:40:56 [xiaoqian]
- ... I've sent a CfC for the FPWD
- 08:42:16 [xiaoqian]
- martin: not much update on UIComponents
- 08:44:46 [xiaoqian]
- xiaoqian: we will send the details about the meet-up to the group later this week
- 08:45:04 [xiaoqian]
- topic: next week
- 08:45:29 [xiaoqian]
- Dan: how about 25 Jan? not sure about your Chinese New Year plans
- 08:45:43 [xiaoqian]
- martin: wfm
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- [adjourned]
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- present+ tomayac, QingAn
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- chair: Dan_Zhou
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