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07:57:48 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), xiaoqian
07:58:12 <xiaoqian> meeting: MiniApps WG & CG Monthly Call
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08:10:38 <xiaoqian> present+ martin, Dan_Zhou
08:10:55 <xiaoqian> topic: MiniApps Vendors' Meet-up
08:12:13 <xiaoqian> Dan: shall we write a document about how to implement the specs?
08:12:38 <xiaoqian> ... I plan to start from Addressing, then Manifest and Packaging
08:13:00 <xiaoqian> ... perhaps taking the Baidu MiniApps as an example
08:13:15 <xiaoqian> ... we should encourage the other vendors to do so
08:14:19 <xiaoqian> Martin: we can do so for Harmony OS as well
08:17:46 <xiaoqian> subtopic: agenda of the meet-up
08:18:20 <xiaoqian> martin: I have some examples of tests, we can generate the report easily
08:18:33 <xiaoqian> ... I'll present the tool and the examples in the meet-up
08:19:47 <xiaoqian> Dan: the Panel Discussions are the most challenging part
08:20:09 <xiaoqian> martin: we should start this kind of discussion as soon as possible, will be a good discussion
08:20:19 <xiaoqian> [[
08:20:30 <xiaoqian> * Roundtable introduction + introduction to each mini program/quick application (voluntary) - all participants
08:20:30 <xiaoqian> *” MiniApp Technical Specification - Addressing" progress and follow-up work plan
08:20:30 <xiaoqian> ——Zhou Dan (Co-Chair of W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:30 <xiaoqian> * ”MiniApp Technical Specification - Lifecycle" progress and follow-up work plan - An Qing (co-chairman of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:43 <xiaoqian> * Progress and follow-up work plans of "MiniApp Technical Specification - Packaging", "MiniApp Technical Specification - Manifest" and "MiniApp Incubation Proposal - UI Component" - Martin Alvarez-Espinar (Co-Chair of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:43 <xiaoqian> * MiniApp Technical Specification Testing - Martin Alvarez-Espinar (Co-Chair of the W3C MiniApps Working Group)
08:20:43 <xiaoqian> * Panel Discussion 1: Opportunities and Challenges of MiniApps Standard Implementation - All Participants
08:20:44 <xiaoqian> Coffee break + free discussion
08:20:44 <xiaoqian> * Panel Discussion 2: MiniApps Standard Implementation and Implementation Planning - All Participants
08:20:46 <xiaoqian> * Discussion summary
08:20:50 <xiaoqian> ]]
08:21:25 <xiaoqian> martin: I got some feedbacks from a few dev events back in July
08:21:38 <xiaoqian> ... interest from the Servo browser
08:22:04 <xiaoqian> ... good to have some browsers in the field
08:23:13 <xiaoqian> xiaoqian: which of our specs are ready for implementation?
08:23:30 <xiaoqian> Dan: Addressing is ready unless there is FO
08:23:46 <xiaoqian> martin: and most of the Manifest and the Packaging
08:24:12 <xiaoqian> ... there were feedbacks about improving security, in discussion with the TAG
08:24:33 <xiaoqian> ... Manifest is solid
08:25:47 <xiaoqian> ... there is another issue about aligning with other specs about change of names, should be resolved very quickly
08:26:09 <xiaoqian> ... also a minor issue with the id
08:26:42 <xiaoqian> ... a proposal about content security policy
08:28:26 <xiaoqian> xiaoqian: this will be a good topic for Panel Discussion 1
08:29:40 <xiaoqian> martin: otherwise, not much news on Manifest and Packaging
08:30:56 <xiaoqian> ... thinking about some mechanism to improve the security model and permission
08:31:29 <xiaoqian> ... like in the dev console
08:32:08 <xiaoqian> ... good to include other vendors' mechanism as well if there is any
08:32:39 <xiaoqian> ... UA need to consider how to prevent the potential risks
08:32:57 <xiaoqian> s/UA/UAs
08:33:34 <xiaoqian> ... using https and digital signatures
08:34:09 <xiaoqian> ... to indicate where you are downloading the resources from
08:36:03 <xiaoqian> QingAn: we received a few feedback from our product team recently, there might be changes
08:36:28 <xiaoqian> ... we may heard more details in next week's vendors' meet-up
08:37:30 <xiaoqian> Dan: could you introduce how to implement the Lifecycle spec in next week's meeting?
08:38:02 <xiaoqian> QingAn: it's challenging, because the gaps in each platform
08:38:15 <xiaoqian> Martin: it's understandable
08:39:09 <xiaoqian> ... that's why it's important to start the implementation asap
08:39:42 <xiaoqian> Dan: as for Addressing, I have closed a few issues
08:40:56 <xiaoqian> ... I've sent a CfC for the FPWD
08:42:16 <xiaoqian> martin: not much update on UIComponents
08:44:46 <xiaoqian> xiaoqian: we will send the details about the meet-up to the group later this week
08:45:04 <xiaoqian> topic: next week
08:45:29 <xiaoqian> Dan: how about 25 Jan? not sure about your Chinese New Year plans
08:45:43 <xiaoqian> martin: wfm
08:50:33 <xiaoqian> [adjourned]
08:50:44 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, make minutes please
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08:51:19 <xiaoqian> present+ tomayac, QingAn
08:51:36 <xiaoqian> chair: Dan_Zhou
08:52:42 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, make minutes please
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