IRC log of wot-script on 2023-12-11

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meeting: WoT Scripting API
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scribe:zkis
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cistiano_Aguzzi, Jan_Romann, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#December_11.2C_2023
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Topic: previous minutes
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-> https://www.w3.org/2023/12/04-wot-script-minutes.html Dec-4
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Minutes approved.
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Topic: next calls
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chair: Cristiano
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CA: we have a break until January 8.
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Topic: PRs
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Subtopic: PR #524
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https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/524
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s/524/524 PR 524 - Update text and examples regarding the fetching of TDs/
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s/https/-> https/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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present+ Daniel_Peintner
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s/1+//
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12:17:16 [zkis]
zkis: we can only make normative statements on the implementations, not consumers
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KA: we need to clarify section 5 vs. Appendix A.2
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-> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/524/6482a8c...JKRhb:329213a.html#requesting-a-thing-description 5.1 Requesting a Thing Description
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-> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/524/6482a8c...JKRhb:329213a.html#requesting-and-validating-a-td A.2 Requesting and validating a TD
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s/section 5/section 5.1/
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s/Appendix A.2/Appendix A.2. Maybe we could change the title of A.2 to clarify our intention./
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DP: it is OK to have the same title in both.
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ZK: agree to include reference to A.2 from section 5.
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DP: KA: an improvement is also fine.
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s/DP: KA:/KA:
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s/an improvement/merging this PR 524 itself, then adding further improvement/
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Topic: issues
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22propose+closing%22 Remaining issues to to be closed
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CA: many issues have been updated, starting with the ones marked
12:25:44 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/360
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i|360|subtopic: Issue 360|
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s/https/-> https/
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s/360/360 Issue 360 - Consider moving terminology definition to WoT Architecture/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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q?
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+1
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ZK: we have done the consideration, now we can close the issue
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KA: we need to consider this in the whole group, to close inactive issues
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DP: chatted with M Lagally, we should not overcomplicate it.
12:31:04 [kaz]
s/we need to consider this in the whole group, to close inactive issues/would suggest two things, (1) quickly check with Lagally (I believe he is OK) and (2) we propose to the whole WoT WG how to close this kind of inactive issues in general as part of the new WoT WG policy./
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ZK: Architecture can pull the term if they want.
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Subtopic: issue #427
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/427 Issue 427 - Consider aligning with IntersectionObserver
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ZK: we can close it
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Subtopic: issue #443
12:33:14 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/443
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s/https/-> https/
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s/443/443 Issue 443 - Editorial: use map/exists instead of "defined", "exists" etc./
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ZK: there are 3-4 places where this still needs correction.
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Subtopic: issue #444
12:38:41 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/444
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s/https/-> https/
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s/444/444 Issue 444 - Editorial: use map/get when referring to object's properties/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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Subtopic: issue #216
12:40:29 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/216
12:41:20 [zkis]
ZK: just needs a reference before closing
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s/https/-> https/
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s/216/216 Issue 216 - Provide a convenient way to fetch a TD in simple case/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/441 PR 441 - Align the discovery API with the Discovery spec
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Subtopic: issue #364
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https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/364
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s/https/-> https/
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s/364/364 Issue 364 - Discovery API - Alternatives/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:46:19 [zkis]
CA: closing it
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i|#216|(closed)|
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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Subtopic: issue #374
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Jan: already resolved, can be closed.
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i|#364|(Issue 216 closed, since already fixed by PR 441)|
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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CA: actually depends on another issue, should keep it open
12:49:41 [kaz]
i|already|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/374 Issue 374 - Types for unreachable definitions cause unwanted comments|
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:50:36 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/390
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Subtopic: issue #390
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i|issue #390|-> https://github.com/bcherny/json-schema-to-typescript/issues/428 related Issue 428 - Disable This interface was referenced by ... comments with --unreachableDefinitions|
12:51:10 [zkis]
Jan: how to distribute keys - but figured out how to do it
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s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/390||
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i|how to|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/390 Issue 390 - Passing Credentials to Discovery Methods|
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s|related Issue 428|related Issue 428 on bcherny/json-schema-to-typescript repo|
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:54:03 [zkis]
ZK: we need to explain the runtime assumptions, e.g. containers, provisioning, deploymemt etc.
12:54:12 [zkis]
CA: create an issue for this
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Subtopic: issue #391
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CA: it is a duplicate
12:54:51 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/391
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s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/391||
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i|it is a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/391 Issue 391 - Identify Scripting use-cases|
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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CA: closing it
12:55:47 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/479
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Subtopic: issue #479
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ZK: this is a generated section, no need for decorations
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s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/479||
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DP: agree - any tweaks might interfere with generation
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i|this is a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/479 Issue 479 - Improve Full Web IDL Appendix
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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q?
12:58:13 [zkis]
CA: closing it
12:58:40 [cris_]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/422
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i|422|subtopic: Issue 422|
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s/https/-> https/
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Subtopic: issue #422
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s/subtopic: Issue 422//
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s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/422||
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/422 Issue 422
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CA: DP will look at this offline and eventually close it.
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Adjourned
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s|Issue 422|Issue 422 - Next Charter - Ideas / Proposals|
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