IRC log of wot-discovery on 2023-12-11

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logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-irc

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13:03:51 [McCool]

agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#11_December_2023

13:08:09 [McCool]

no too many people here - have a short meeting only, but need to wait for kaz to come back

13:08:34 [McCool]

scribenick: McCool

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topic: minutes

13:09:11 [kaz]

-> https://www.w3.org/2023/12/04-wot-discovery-minutes.html Dec-4

13:09:24 [kaz]

chair: McCool

13:10:07 [kaz]

present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima

13:11:30 [McCool]

mm: minutes were approved, after typo fix

13:12:10 [kaz]

scribenick: kaz

13:12:14 [kaz]

topic: Logistics

13:12:28 [kaz]

mm: Discovery meeting next week on Dec 18 is cancelled

13:12:43 [kaz]

... also cancellations due to holidays

13:13:08 [kaz]

... the next call is Jan 15

13:13:13 [kaz]

topic: Resources

13:13:23 [kaz]

mm: right now, we have a placeholder HTML

13:13:27 [kaz]

... it's good for now

13:13:46 [kaz]

... but we need to get registered with the DID registry

13:14:13 [kaz]

... need to coordinate with the TD repo as well

13:14:25 [kaz]

... have to get volunteers for that purpose next year

13:14:41 [kaz]

... myself will concentrate on the DID registry issue

13:15:04 [kaz]

... will make sure it will happen

13:15:59 [kaz]

... (adds a link for did-spec-registries/pull/486)

13:16:23 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486/files link for did-spec-registries PR 486

13:16:25 [kaz]

rrsagent, make log public

13:16:29 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

13:16:30 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

13:16:52 [kaz]

mm: seems there is some conflict now...

13:17:13 [kaz]

meeting: WoT Discovery

13:17:15 [kaz]

mm: seems there is some conflict now...

13:17:20 [kaz]

s/mm: seems there is some conflict now...//

13:17:21 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

13:17:22 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

13:18:03 [kaz]

... once the fix is done, can get published

13:18:25 [kaz]

topic: Planning

13:18:35 [kaz]

subtopic: Use Cases and Requirements

13:18:47 [kaz]

mm: getting good shape but need go be reviewed

13:19:07 [kaz]

... probably need some re-organization

13:19:29 [kaz]

... but have clarified topics on Discovery

13:19:53 [kaz]

... need to send an email to the whole WG

13:20:29 [kaz]

... to be sent to the IG?

13:20:31 [kaz]

s/WG/group/

13:20:43 [kaz]

kaz: the Use Cases and Requirements document itself is done by the IG

13:21:01 [kaz]

... on the other hand, the use case topics are related to Discovery done by WG

13:23:12 [kaz]

... so you can send the review request to both the IG and the WG

13:23:17 [kaz]

mm: what about the CG?

13:23:48 [kaz]

kaz: technically, if CG Members would like to give reviews for an IG document, they should join the public-wot-ig mailing list

13:23:53 [kaz]

mm: that's true

13:24:01 [kaz]

... would talk with Ege about that

13:24:13 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

13:24:14 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

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13:28:14 [kaz]

present+ Jan_Romann

13:28:14 [JKRhb]

q+

13:28:37 [JKRhb]

q-

13:28:49 [kaz]

kaz: do you expect to get reviews by those who provided use cases but possibly still non-Members as well?

13:28:52 [kaz]

mm: right

13:29:35 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

13:29:37 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

13:30:50 [kaz]

kaz: btw, you might want to send it to public-wot-ig and public-wot-wg instead of the Member lists :)

13:30:53 [kaz]

mm: ok

13:30:57 [kaz]

q?

13:31:57 [kaz]

(review request sent out)

13:32:36 [kaz]

... ideally all the contributors should subscribe this public-wot-ig list

13:33:21 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

13:33:23 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

13:33:32 [kaz]

topic: Resources - revisited

13:33:55 [kaz]

(discussion on how to generate HTML descriptions from the TTL ontologies)

13:34:23 [kaz]

mm: at the moment, good placeholder

13:34:38 [kaz]

... but would be great if we could get your help, Jan

13:34:46 [kaz]

jr: which ontology?

13:34:58 [kaz]

mm: only one ontology for WoT Discovery

13:35:07 [kaz]

q+

13:35:57 [kaz]

kaz: in that case, I'd suggest Michael create an Issue describing which TTL file to be converted to what kind of HTML file

13:36:08 [kaz]

... then Jan could work on that to help you

13:36:11 [kaz]

mm: ok

13:39:16 [kaz]

q+

13:39:51 [kaz]

ack k

13:40:09 [kaz]

... what we do is

13:40:24 [kaz]

... 1. update the HTML content

13:40:35 [kaz]

... 2. replace the HTML in wot-resources

13:40:58 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/252

13:42:03 [kaz]

mm: or maybe 3-step approach

13:42:17 [kaz]

kaz: in that case, you should mention "what to be done at which repository how"

13:42:40 [kaz]

mm: ok

13:43:21 [kaz]

... 1. set up the script to generate the HTML from TTL on wot-discovery

13:43:41 [kaz]

... 2. update the HTML to reflect the actual content of the TTL file on wot-discovery

13:43:54 [kaz]

... 3. replace the HTML on wot-resources

13:45:14 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/252||

13:46:00 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533 Issue 533 - Update HTML for Discovery ontology

13:48:51 [kaz]

q+

13:49:31 [kaz]

topic: Status

13:49:48 [kaz]

mm: would create some more issues on wot-use-cases

13:50:05 [kaz]

kaz: I can understand the current situation and the difficulty of how to manage the use case calls at the moment

13:50:23 [kaz]

... however, technically, WoT Use Cases discussion is done by the WoT IG

13:50:49 [kaz]

... and some of the IG-only participants might want to join the discussion too

13:51:08 [kaz]

... so we should think about how to hold the use cases discussion in a broader manner

13:51:29 [kaz]

mm: yeah

13:51:38 [kaz]

... let me create an issue on the wot-discovery side first

13:53:02 [kaz]

s/on the wot-discovery side first//

13:53:33 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/253 wot-usecases Issue 253 - Update Status of each Discovery Requirement

13:54:10 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534

13:54:31 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/534 wot-discovery Issue 534 - Link Work Items to Requirements in UC&R document|

13:54:43 [kaz]

q+

13:55:23 [kaz]

topic: Resources - revisited

13:55:49 [kaz]

kaz: btw, wot-discovery issue 533, which was created during this call, and an older one Issue 524 are identical. right?

13:56:03 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/509

13:56:16 [kaz]

i|509|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/533 Issue 533 - Update HTML for Discovery ontology|

13:56:56 [kaz]

i|509|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/524 Issue 524 - Generate HTML file for ontology/discovery-core.ttl|

13:57:22 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/509|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/509|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/509 Issue 509 - Create and Publish an Ontology File for DID Vocabulary|

13:57:29 [kaz]

mm: Issue 509 also

13:57:34 [kaz]

... (closes 509 and 524)

13:58:16 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/515 Issue 515 - Publish Context and Ontology

13:58:24 [kaz]

mm: 515 can be also closed

13:58:27 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/524

13:58:59 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/518

13:59:02 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/524||

13:59:41 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/518|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/518|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/518 Issue 518 - Publish JSON Schema for TDD at stable URL|

13:59:48 [kaz]

mm: 518 also can be closed

14:00:18 [kaz]

topic: Next call

14:00:23 [kaz]

mm: will be Jan 15

14:00:26 [kaz]

[adjourned]

14:00:51 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

14:00:52 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/11-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz

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