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17:04:25 <Zakim> Meeting: ARIA Editors
17:04:58 <pkra> scribe: pkra
17:05:38 <jamesn> agenda+ [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria#2073)
17:05:38 <jamesn> agenda+ [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common#104)
17:05:38 <jamesn> agenda+ [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive?
17:05:38 <jamesn> agenda+ [continue] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99
17:05:39 <jamesn> agenda+ [continue] retiring contributors.md across specs - tracked via aria-common#103)
17:05:39 <jamesn> agenda+ [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen)
17:05:55 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:05:55 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria#2073) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:06:27 <jamesn> agenda+ what do we need to complete for 1.3 FPWD
17:10:32 <pkra> pkra: this is mostly to talk about my aria.js refactoring.
17:11:20 <pkra> ... which is progressing but very messy
17:13:22 <pkra> ... lots of knowledge gained.
17:13:28 <pkra> ... but still lots left to do
17:14:25 <pkra> ... we could review changes so far and merge or do something else.
17:17:07 <pkra> ... in other words: I could use some help
17:17:10 <pkra> valerie: I could find time.
17:19:43 <pkra> jamesn: me too
17:19:58 <pkra> pkra: thanks. I'll work out when I want it. It's a bit of a mess to do.
17:22:43 <pkra> pkra: and I won't forget about the actual item I mentioned - where we need new markup.
17:23:31 <pkra> jnurthen: bikeshe would support markdown
17:23:46 <pkra> daniel: respec supports it too
17:23:56 <pkra> ... but probably not a good time.
17:24:19 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:24:19 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common#104) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:24:30 <pkra> zakim, close item
17:24:30 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', pkra
17:24:40 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:24:40 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
17:24:41 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:24:41 <Zakim> 3. [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? [from jamesn]
17:24:44 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:24:44 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:25:01 <pkra> pkra: did we follow up on that?
17:25:09 <pkra> ... e.g., with jcraig
17:26:39 <pkra> ... can somebody follow up on this?
17:28:46 <pkra> jamesn: maybe he can read the emails :)
17:29:24 <pkra> val: I will follow up. maybe summarize things on the issue.
17:29:30 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:29:30 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- [continue] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99 -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:29:39 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:29:39 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
17:29:40 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:29:40 <Zakim> 5. [continue] retiring contributors.md across specs - tracked via aria-common#103) [from jamesn]
17:29:48 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:29:48 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [continue] retiring contributors.md across specs - tracked via aria-common#103) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:32:46 <pkra> jamesn: we should leave it to specs to decide
17:32:58 <pkra> ... there's a limit with github's API which might cause problems.
17:34:07 <pkra> pkra: maybe I should go back and remove the old list from specs. Feels a fair call for ARIA WG to make
17:34:15 <pkra> jamesn: for funders, should we keep this?
17:34:18 <pkra> daniel: yes, for now it should.
17:34:25 <pkra> ... maybe next year.
17:34:27 <pkra> ... will check.
17:34:37 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:34:37 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:34:44 <pkra> zakim, close item
17:34:44 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', pkra
17:34:46 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:34:46 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
17:34:47 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
17:34:47 <Zakim> 7. what do we need to complete for 1.3 FPWD [from jamesn]
17:34:53 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:34:53 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- what do we need to complete for 1.3 FPWD -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:35:03 <pkra> jamesn: what do we need to do?
17:35:09 <pkra> ... remove association list code.
17:35:17 <pkra> ... as per WG decision
17:35:21 <pkra> ... changelog
17:35:39 <pkra> ... probably go for automated + manual editing afterwards
17:36:07 <pkra> daniel: we'll find out more things when we push it through the publication process
17:36:20 <pkra> jamesn: right.
17:36:52 <pkra> pkra: other specs, too? accname?
17:37:01 <pkra> jamesn: right, we'll need to do this for all specs.
17:37:16 <pkra> bryan: the main accname thing would be inline/block label stuff.
17:37:22 <pkra> ... that's holding up other work.
17:37:34 <pkra> ... it's waiting for review.
17:37:39 <pkra> jamesn: does it have to be for CR?
17:37:55 <pkra> ... because once we are in CR, we're evergreen and we can make the changes quickly
17:38:02 <pkra> bryan: that sounds good.
17:38:10 <pkra> jamesn: we had a CfC already, I think.
17:38:17 <pkra> bryan: not sure but think so
17:39:18 <pkra> jamesn: we've had a CfC for core-aam and accname in Oct 2022
17:41:13 <pkra> pkra: looking at core-aam, should it say somewhere that it's evergreen?
17:41:34 <pkra> daniel: we don't use that term but it's in our charter
17:41:45 <pkra> pkra: so it's always called "draft"?
17:41:49 <pkra> jamesn: we can do snapshots.
17:42:15 <pkra> jamesn: if we can publishing something for accname today that's better than right now, we should do it.
17:42:26 <pkra> ... @daniel should we do another CfC? Is it too old?
17:42:40 <pkra> daniel: yes.
17:42:49 <pkra> jamesn: do we then need a wide review?
17:43:00 <pkra> daniel: could list changes
17:43:22 <pkra> jamesn: right. it's short. but wide review always finds issue. internationalization  will likely find something.
17:43:31 <pkra> ... so we need to do a new wide review?
17:43:35 <pkra> daniel: yes
17:43:44 <pkra> jamesn: can we clean things up fo that?
17:44:01 <pkra> bryan: will talk to Melanie. Is it basically reviewing things and making sure nothing outstanding?
17:44:10 <pkra> jamesn: just "better than last version" seems fine.
17:44:22 <pkra> bryan: ok.
17:45:38 <pkra> jamesn: I'll try to get the process running by January.
17:45:41 <pkra> daniel: sounds good.
17:49:25 <pkra> zakim, end meeting
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