IRC log of aria-editors on 2023-12-11

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Meeting: ARIA Editors
17:04:58 [pkra]
scribe: pkra
17:05:38 [jamesn]
agenda+ [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria#2073)
17:05:38 [jamesn]
agenda+ [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common#104)
17:05:38 [jamesn]
agenda+ [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive?
17:05:38 [jamesn]
agenda+ [continue] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99
17:05:39 [jamesn]
agenda+ [continue] retiring contributors.md across specs - tracked via aria-common#103)
17:05:39 [jamesn]
agenda+ [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen)
17:05:55 [pkra]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- [continue] automation and synonyms (via aria#2073) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:06:27 [jamesn]
agenda+ what do we need to complete for 1.3 FPWD
17:10:32 [pkra]
pkra: this is mostly to talk about my aria.js refactoring.
17:11:20 [pkra]
... which is progressing but very messy
17:13:22 [pkra]
... lots of knowledge gained.
17:13:28 [pkra]
... but still lots left to do
17:14:25 [pkra]
... we could review changes so far and merge or do something else.
17:17:07 [pkra]
... in other words: I could use some help
17:17:10 [pkra]
valerie: I could find time.
17:19:43 [pkra]
jamesn: me too
17:19:58 [pkra]
pkra: thanks. I'll work out when I want it. It's a bit of a mess to do.
17:22:43 [pkra]
pkra: and I won't forget about the actual item I mentioned - where we need new markup.
17:23:31 [pkra]
jnurthen: bikeshe would support markdown
17:23:46 [pkra]
daniel: respec supports it too
17:23:56 [pkra]
... but probably not a good time.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- [continue] modernizing aria.js (aria-common#104) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:24:30 [pkra]
zakim, close item
17:24:30 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'close item', pkra
17:24:40 [pkra]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 2 closed
17:24:41 [Zakim]
I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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3. [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? [from jamesn]
17:24:44 [pkra]
zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- [continue] PR/Merge process - next steps after deep dive? -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:25:01 [pkra]
pkra: did we follow up on that?
17:25:09 [pkra]
... e.g., with jcraig
17:26:39 [pkra]
... can somebody follow up on this?
17:28:46 [pkra]
jamesn: maybe he can read the emails :)
17:29:24 [pkra]
val: I will follow up. maybe summarize things on the issue.
17:29:30 [pkra]
zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- [continue] roll out prettier setup - tracked via aria-common#99 -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:29:39 [pkra]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 4 closed
17:29:40 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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5. [continue] retiring contributors.md across specs - tracked via aria-common#103) [from jamesn]
17:29:48 [pkra]
zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- [continue] retiring contributors.md across specs - tracked via aria-common#103) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:32:46 [pkra]
jamesn: we should leave it to specs to decide
17:32:58 [pkra]
... there's a limit with github's API which might cause problems.
17:34:07 [pkra]
pkra: maybe I should go back and remove the old list from specs. Feels a fair call for ARIA WG to make
17:34:15 [pkra]
jamesn: for funders, should we keep this?
17:34:18 [pkra]
daniel: yes, for now it should.
17:34:25 [pkra]
... maybe next year.
17:34:27 [pkra]
... will check.
17:34:37 [pkra]
zakim, next item
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agendum 6 -- [on Hold] spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen) -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:34:44 [pkra]
zakim, close item
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I don't understand 'close item', pkra
17:34:46 [pkra]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 6 closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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7. what do we need to complete for 1.3 FPWD [from jamesn]
17:34:53 [pkra]
zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- what do we need to complete for 1.3 FPWD -- taken up [from jamesn]
17:35:03 [pkra]
jamesn: what do we need to do?
17:35:09 [pkra]
... remove association list code.
17:35:17 [pkra]
... as per WG decision
17:35:21 [pkra]
... changelog
17:35:39 [pkra]
... probably go for automated + manual editing afterwards
17:36:07 [pkra]
daniel: we'll find out more things when we push it through the publication process
17:36:20 [pkra]
jamesn: right.
17:36:52 [pkra]
pkra: other specs, too? accname?
17:37:01 [pkra]
jamesn: right, we'll need to do this for all specs.
17:37:16 [pkra]
bryan: the main accname thing would be inline/block label stuff.
17:37:22 [pkra]
... that's holding up other work.
17:37:34 [pkra]
... it's waiting for review.
17:37:39 [pkra]
jamesn: does it have to be for CR?
17:37:55 [pkra]
... because once we are in CR, we're evergreen and we can make the changes quickly
17:38:02 [pkra]
bryan: that sounds good.
17:38:10 [pkra]
jamesn: we had a CfC already, I think.
17:38:17 [pkra]
bryan: not sure but think so
17:39:18 [pkra]
jamesn: we've had a CfC for core-aam and accname in Oct 2022
17:41:13 [pkra]
pkra: looking at core-aam, should it say somewhere that it's evergreen?
17:41:34 [pkra]
daniel: we don't use that term but it's in our charter
17:41:45 [pkra]
pkra: so it's always called "draft"?
17:41:49 [pkra]
jamesn: we can do snapshots.
17:42:15 [pkra]
jamesn: if we can publishing something for accname today that's better than right now, we should do it.
17:42:26 [pkra]
... @daniel should we do another CfC? Is it too old?
17:42:40 [pkra]
daniel: yes.
17:42:49 [pkra]
jamesn: do we then need a wide review?
17:43:00 [pkra]
daniel: could list changes
17:43:22 [pkra]
jamesn: right. it's short. but wide review always finds issue. internationalization will likely find something.
17:43:31 [pkra]
... so we need to do a new wide review?
17:43:35 [pkra]
daniel: yes
17:43:44 [pkra]
jamesn: can we clean things up fo that?
17:44:01 [pkra]
bryan: will talk to Melanie. Is it basically reviewing things and making sure nothing outstanding?
17:44:10 [pkra]
jamesn: just "better than last version" seems fine.
17:44:22 [pkra]
bryan: ok.
17:45:38 [pkra]
jamesn: I'll try to get the process running by January.
17:45:41 [pkra]
daniel: sounds good.
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zakim, end meeting
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