IRC log of pronunciation on 2023-12-04

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
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agenda?
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IrfanAli: We've discussed several new examples recently, agreed they're useful.
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... Let's update the Explainer, and re-send to the people we've had talks with at TPAC etc.
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regrets+ PaulG
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IrfanAli: This will help us summarize the info in a proper W3C standard [way]; that one document can cover all the relevant info for the stakeholders and other interested parties.
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+1
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IrfanAli: Dee, Sarah - any thoughts?
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IrfanAli: We're limiting our use cases in order to get some implementation going.
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Dee: No additional comments to what I sent.
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... Within the accessibility group that I belong to at ETS, we discussed this. The pause case is critical in assessments. Not sure how we can make a stronger argument.
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... The examples we provided are things we do currently in assessments.
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S_Wood: I think you hit on the most important points.
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Dee: Sometimes when there's not enough pausing, various different options (e.g. B/C) sound too similar.
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... There are also cases where pausing is important for understanding the content.
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IrfanAli: We need to see this info publicly - e.g. on the wiki - please could you create a page with examples?
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Dee: A separate page for assessment examples?
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IrfanAli: Sure
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... Or add it to the draft for ARIA counter-proposal.
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Dee: Was thinking Paul wanted to check before publishing them anywhere.
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IrfanAli: Perhaps best to create a new page, so we can have them together and review.
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https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki
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IrfanAli: Timeline for the TF. We updated it back in 2021. We were hopeful to make progress to CR by December 2023. We need to update that timeline.
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https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Timeline
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matatk: Will bring this up in APA Plan, and work with you to update it.
16:20:38 [IrfanAli]
https://www.texthelp.com/products/speechstream/
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IrfanAli: ^ texthelp SpeechStream API
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matatk: One example is the quadratic equation; interesting.
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Dee: I've added the examples; markup needs tweaking.
16:28:07 [matatk]
matatk: I'll fix it shortly; thanks for adding!
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Chair: Irfan Ali
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Dee: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Assessment-Examples-for-the-Break-Tag
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