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16:02:01 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
16:02:06 <matatk> agenda?
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16:05:16 <matatk> IrfanAli: We've discussed several new examples recently, agreed they're useful.
16:05:32 <matatk> ... Let's update the Explainer, and re-send to the people we've had talks with at TPAC etc.
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16:05:47 <matatk> regrets+ PaulG
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16:06:23 <matatk> IrfanAli: This will help us summarize the info in a proper W3C standard [way]; that one document can cover all the relevant info for the stakeholders and other interested parties.
16:06:25 <matatk> +1
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16:07:13 <matatk> IrfanAli: Dee, Sarah - any thoughts?
16:07:26 <matatk> IrfanAli: We're limiting our use cases in order to get some implementation going.
16:07:36 <matatk> Dee: No additional comments to what I sent.
16:08:01 <matatk> ... Within the accessibility group that I belong to at ETS, we discussed this. The pause case is critical in assessments. Not sure how we can make a stronger argument.
16:08:15 <matatk> ... The examples we provided are things we do currently in assessments.
16:09:04 <matatk> S_Wood: I think you hit on the most important points.
16:09:50 <matatk> Dee: Sometimes when there's not enough pausing, various different options (e.g. B/C) sound too similar.
16:10:07 <matatk> ... There are also cases where pausing is important for understanding the content.
16:12:12 <matatk> IrfanAli: We need to see this info publicly - e.g. on the wiki - please could you create a page with examples?
16:12:18 <matatk> Dee: A separate page for assessment examples?
16:12:22 <matatk> IrfanAli: Sure
16:12:33 <matatk> ... Or add it to the draft for ARIA counter-proposal.
16:12:47 <matatk> Dee: Was thinking Paul wanted to check before publishing them anywhere.
16:13:00 <matatk> IrfanAli: Perhaps best to create a new page, so we can have them together and review.
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16:16:16 <IrfanAli> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki
16:16:58 <matatk> IrfanAli: Timeline for the TF. We updated it back in 2021. We were hopeful to make progress to CR by December 2023. We need to update that timeline.
16:17:20 <IrfanAli> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Timeline
16:17:58 <matatk> matatk: Will bring this up in APA Plan, and work with you to update it.
16:20:38 <IrfanAli> https://www.texthelp.com/products/speechstream/
16:21:10 <matatk> IrfanAli: ^ texthelp SpeechStream API
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16:21:36 <matatk> matatk: One example is the quadratic equation; interesting.
16:27:48 <IrfanAli> rrsagent, make minutes
16:27:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/12/04-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanAli
16:27:58 <matatk> Dee: I've added the examples; markup needs tweaking.
16:28:07 <matatk> matatk: I'll fix it shortly; thanks for adding!
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16:31:12 <IrfanAli> Chair: Irfan Ali
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16:31:26 <matatk> Dee: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Assessment-Examples-for-the-Break-Tag
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