IRC log of hcls on 2023-11-30

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Topic: Drug ID ontology
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DBooth: Will follow up with Heiner about scheculing this
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Topic: Turtle example
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tim: Sent PR and mentioned it zulip.
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eric: That will allow us to test shex better.
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ACTION: tim to ping grahame on zulip
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tim: the other changes i have add things that make it easier to gen all the exapmles without genning the entire FHIR spec.
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tim "I made some progress towards adding extra unit tests for generating examples https://github.com/tmprd/org.hl7.fhir.core/pull/1 "
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eric: Could put them on github so I can grab them.
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... I'll give you permission to put in in fhircat repo
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http://github.com/fhircat/ShExValidation
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dbooth: Will these changes fix all known issues in the Turtle examples?
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tim: Fixes missing datatype annotations, duplication of root properties. I loaded a lot of these w protege and it told me a lot were not correct. Also there was an issue w URLs having bad chars.
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... Some have a vertical bar in them.
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tim: Current fixes lined up https://github.com/HL7/kindling/pull/148
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... https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/120
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https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179177-conformance/topic/syntax.20of.20Reference.2Ereference.20with.20version
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eric: Does FHIR protocal accept accepts the percent-encoded vertical bar in a request?
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rob; Depends on how the operation is defined.
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... If' it's looking for a URI you have to strip it out.
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eric: canonical: http://example.org/fhir/questionnaire/patient-intake|1
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encoded: http://example.org/fhir/questionnaire/patient-intake%7C1
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REST API: http://example.org/fhir/questionnaire/patient-intake?version=1
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ACTION: Eric to follow up on the zulip thread
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Topic: Imaging metadata
16:33:41 [dbooth]
erich: Also similar to features pulled from deep learning pipelines. How far does FHIR go to having vocab to describe them?
16:33:57 [dbooth]
... Geo groups say it doesn't need to be limited to geo.
16:34:59 [dbooth]
... Dicom has a lot of vocab for radiology images, and now has pathol vocab. Recently added annotation capabilities. But there's no official RDF casting to it.
16:35:27 [dbooth]
... Which group handles this, and how do i connect it to FHIR RDF data?
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rob: in RDF, no clear answer. Between imaging WG and FHIR infra and this group, we'll need to figure it out. Not sure anybody's explored it.
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erich: Can do demo in a few weeks.
16:37:09 [dbooth]
tim: Have you seen the imaging study resource, and how it connects to DICOM?
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erich: Not yet.
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https://www.hl7.org/fhir/imagingstudy.html
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erich: Some casting from DICOM to RDF have been done, but nothing official. Seems like an opportunity.
16:38:51 [dbooth]
dbooth: identified others with similar interest?
16:39:08 [dbooth]
erich: OMOP group is interested, but again no official RDF casting.
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eric: Where do you want to go?
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erich: Based on problems I need to solve.
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.. Want to base it on standard where possible.
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eric: if you ask how to connect to external resources, the FHIR folks will say "let's make FHIR resources for it"
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... There's bound to be a boundary on that. Better to have DICOM on the inside or the outside of that boundary?
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eric: There will be a swat4ls conference in a couple months. Scott Marshall will be there. Maybe get together there? Maybe push the DICOM people to annoint?
16:48:51 [dbooth]
eric: Seems like we need an annointed DICOM RDF
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ACTION: EricP to ping Scott Marshall about DICOM RDF
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tim: Laterality refers to DICOM. Maybe make an extension of the ImagingStudy resource?
16:51:00 [dbooth]
eric: If we already know how to connect the two ontologies, then in theory we can do what we need. FHIR Extensions are not very friendly to RDF use.
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Present: Erich Bremer, Tim Prudhomme, EricP, Rob Hausam, Jim Balhoff, David Booth
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Present+ Allen Flynn
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