IRC log of hcls on 2023-11-30
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- Topic: Drug ID ontology
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- DBooth: Will follow up with Heiner about scheculing this
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- Topic: Turtle example
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- tim: Sent PR and mentioned it zulip.
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- eric: That will allow us to test shex better.
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- ACTION: tim to ping grahame on zulip
- 16:08:55 [dbooth]
- tim: the other changes i have add things that make it easier to gen all the exapmles without genning the entire FHIR spec.
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- tim "I made some progress towards adding extra unit tests for generating examples https://github.com/tmprd/org.hl7.fhir.core/pull/1 "
- 16:09:26 [dbooth]
- eric: Could put them on github so I can grab them.
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- ... I'll give you permission to put in in fhircat repo
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- http://github.com/fhircat/ShExValidation
- 16:12:10 [dbooth]
- dbooth: Will these changes fix all known issues in the Turtle examples?
- 16:13:36 [dbooth]
- tim: Fixes missing datatype annotations, duplication of root properties. I loaded a lot of these w protege and it told me a lot were not correct. Also there was an issue w URLs having bad chars.
- 16:14:14 [dbooth]
- ... Some have a vertical bar in them.
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- tim: Current fixes lined up https://github.com/HL7/kindling/pull/148
- 16:16:19 [dbooth]
- ... https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/120
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- https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179177-conformance/topic/syntax.20of.20Reference.2Ereference.20with.20version
- 16:19:39 [dbooth]
- eric: Does FHIR protocal accept accepts the percent-encoded vertical bar in a request?
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- rob; Depends on how the operation is defined.
- 16:21:46 [dbooth]
- ... If' it's looking for a URI you have to strip it out.
- 16:29:13 [dbooth]
- eric: canonical: http://example.org/fhir/questionnaire/patient-intake|1
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- encoded: http://example.org/fhir/questionnaire/patient-intake%7C1
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- REST API: http://example.org/fhir/questionnaire/patient-intake?version=1
- 16:31:47 [dbooth]
- ACTION: Eric to follow up on the zulip thread
- 16:33:11 [dbooth]
- Topic: Imaging metadata
- 16:33:41 [dbooth]
- erich: Also similar to features pulled from deep learning pipelines. How far does FHIR go to having vocab to describe them?
- 16:33:57 [dbooth]
- ... Geo groups say it doesn't need to be limited to geo.
- 16:34:59 [dbooth]
- ... Dicom has a lot of vocab for radiology images, and now has pathol vocab. Recently added annotation capabilities. But there's no official RDF casting to it.
- 16:35:27 [dbooth]
- ... Which group handles this, and how do i connect it to FHIR RDF data?
- 16:36:04 [dbooth]
- rob: in RDF, no clear answer. Between imaging WG and FHIR infra and this group, we'll need to figure it out. Not sure anybody's explored it.
- 16:36:22 [dbooth]
- erich: Can do demo in a few weeks.
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- tim: Have you seen the imaging study resource, and how it connects to DICOM?
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- erich: Not yet.
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- https://www.hl7.org/fhir/imagingstudy.html
- 16:38:29 [dbooth]
- erich: Some casting from DICOM to RDF have been done, but nothing official. Seems like an opportunity.
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- dbooth: identified others with similar interest?
- 16:39:08 [dbooth]
- erich: OMOP group is interested, but again no official RDF casting.
- 16:39:49 [dbooth]
- eric: Where do you want to go?
- 16:40:16 [dbooth]
- erich: Based on problems I need to solve.
- 16:40:48 [dbooth]
- .. Want to base it on standard where possible.
- 16:41:54 [dbooth]
- eric: if you ask how to connect to external resources, the FHIR folks will say "let's make FHIR resources for it"
- 16:42:19 [dbooth]
- ... There's bound to be a boundary on that. Better to have DICOM on the inside or the outside of that boundary?
- 16:46:46 [dbooth]
- eric: There will be a swat4ls conference in a couple months. Scott Marshall will be there. Maybe get together there? Maybe push the DICOM people to annoint?
- 16:48:51 [dbooth]
- eric: Seems like we need an annointed DICOM RDF
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- ACTION: EricP to ping Scott Marshall about DICOM RDF
- 16:50:11 [dbooth]
- tim: Laterality refers to DICOM. Maybe make an extension of the ImagingStudy resource?
- 16:51:00 [dbooth]
- eric: If we already know how to connect the two ontologies, then in theory we can do what we need. FHIR Extensions are not very friendly to RDF use.
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- ADJOURNED
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- Present: Erich Bremer, Tim Prudhomme, EricP, Rob Hausam, Jim Balhoff, David Booth
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- Present+ Allen Flynn
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