14:49:01 RRSAgent has joined #ixml 14:49:05 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-irc 14:49:25 Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group 14:49:37 Steven has joined #ixml 14:49:42 Chair: Steven 14:49:59 Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes 14:50:35 john has joined #ixml 14:50:53 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Nov/0015.html 14:51:57 scribe: john 14:52:20 s/john/John Lumley/ 14:54:00 rrsagent make log public 14:55:06 rrsagetn, make logs public 14:55:20 rrsagent, make logs public 14:57:05 s/rrsagetn, make logs public// 14:57:25 s/rrsagent make log public// 14:58:38 rrsagent, make minutes 14:58:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-minutes.html Steven 14:59:50 Topic: Pervious Actions 15:00:01 s/Pervious/Previous/ 15:00:20 rrsagent, make minutes 15:00:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-minutes.html Steven 15:00:29 norm has joined #ixml 15:01:42 Present: Steven, Michael, Bethan, Norm, John 15:01:46 https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-irc 15:02:39 Michael: 2023-01-10-b: Michael to take another pass on the EBNF to BNF document. COMPLETED 15:03:14 2023-01-10-f: Norm and Michael to do a bit of revision to improve the draft documentation of the XML vINUEDcabulary (see #137) for further discussion. - CONTU 15:03:25 s/CONT/CONTINUED/ 15:03:46 2023-10-03-a: Norm to create tests for renaming DONE 23 October 2023 15:04:11 2023-10-03-a: Norm to create tests for renaming DONE 23 October 2023 15:04:18 Norm close issue 197 without changes DONE 4 October 2023. 15:04:36 2023-10-03-d: Michael draft a FAQ, to include discussion of Unicode non-characters and non-Unicode characters Done. 15:04:51 2023-10-17-a: SP to document the modified IRI/URI grammar to make clearer why you might want it / need it, in preference to the literal transcription of the grammars in the RFCs. Mostly Done -Steven 15:05:12 2023-10-17-b: SP to draft proposed addition to section 3.3 saying explicitly that nonterminals are case-sensitive. DONE - needs discussion 15:05:32 ACTION: Steven to add the sentence to the spec. 15:06:48 2023-10-17-c: NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS, to see if we can turn section numbers on and off. DONE - posted link to version 15:08:08 2023-10-17-d: SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section it heads (on the model of the XSLT spec). - DONE 15:08:27 2023-10-17-e: SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode supported. DONE - added to my Michael 15:08:59 2023-10-17-f: MSM to find the tests which currently provide different results based on version of Unicode supported, and send SP a pointer to them. Done. 15:09:54 2023-10-17-g: NTW to develop proposal for #192 (Line endings) with a menu of choices Done. 15:10:38 Topic: Status reports 15:11:42 John: Exploring full-length string matching 15:12:07 Norm: Experimental version 4 being worked on. 15:12:57 Steven: Working on leading empty item bug revealed by Michael's Unicode work. 15:14:09 Topic: Publication Plans 15:14:29 ACTION: Steven as group chair has to ask W3C to publish the report 15:14:55 Topic: Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues 15:15:36 Michael: Pull request #207 Test of Renaming facility - agreed to merge 15:16:06 Michael: Pull request #211 A linear a-star test catalog and data 15:16:45 Norm: 3000 files a bit big! - Linear rather than exponential intervals 15:19:13 If you want to see my graphs, they're in here: https://so.nwalsh.com/2023/11/05-faster 15:22:39 RESOLVED: This pull request should be merged 15:23:17 Pull request #212 Tweak Unicode tests, add version detector - Michael/Norm to resolve merge conflict 15:25:00 Pull request #218 Small test catalog update (Norm) - Allows multiple grammar-result elements in a test-set-results element (needed for processors with support for multiple Unicode versions or other reasons for multiple results). Agreed to merge 15:25:50 Pull request #214 Oberon-based performance tests (Michael) - agreed to merge 15:27:09 Pull request #215 XSLT to make Bash script from catalog (Michael) - agreed as a useful tool. Agreed to merge (free of charge!) 15:31:13 Pull request #216 ixml grammars for performance testing (Michael) - more real-world cases. (Intended to act as a good basis for comparing various rewrite rules, etc.) . Agreed to merge 15:35:50 Pull request #217 Performance tests using XPath (Michael) - reduced-tree grammar. Real-world XPath expressions. Agreed to merge 15:36:50 Issue #198 Check that browsable test suite is being updated when tests are added (Norm) - Continue 15:37:07 Pull request #204 Toggle section numbers (norm) - Continue 15:38:46 Michael: Explanatory Documentation in the test catalog would be helpful - explaining what features of iXML and the target grammars are being exercised 15:39:56 rrsagent, make minutes 15:39:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-minutes.html john 15:41:12 Michael: Description of EBNF to BNF translation - difficult to check format of the report without merging. 15:43:05 Current EBNF to BNF document is at https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/master/misc/ebnf-to-bnf.md 15:44:10 Agreed to merge this 15:45:10 ACTION: Steven to review the EBNF to BNF document 15:45:41 Pull request #204 Toggle section numbers (norm). Agrred to merge 15:45:54 s/Agrred/Agreed/ 15:46:15 Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars (Norm & Michael) - Continue 15:46:27 rrsagent, make minutes 15:46:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-minutes.html john 15:47:02 TOPIC: v.Next issues 15:47:10 Issue #210 Extraneous material in section on Serialization 15:47:29 ACTION: Norm to tidy 'Extraneous material in section on Serialization' 15:48:02 Steven has joined #ixml 15:49:22 S: A. . 15:55:26 Some discussion about this subject - some thoughts about suggesting a name cannot/should not end with a '.' (Could be expressed in ixml) 15:56:15 ACTION: Michael - write a proposal regarding Period in names 15:56:29 Next Meeting: 12th December @1500 UTC 15:56:51 Steven: Dutch government (and forces) using iXML 15:57:30 s/(and forces)/armed forces/ 15:57:30 XSLTFOrms is adding ixml to its front end 15:57:50 fn:invisble-ixml() added to QT4 work 15:58:07 rrsagent, make minutes 15:58:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/28-ixml-minutes.html john 16:56:10 Steven has left #ixml 17:55:32 cmsmcq has joined #ixml