IRC log of wot-script on 2023-11-20

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meeting: WoT Scripting API
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Jan_Romann, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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topic: minutes
12:11:04 [cris__]
dape: looks fine
12:11:15 [dape]
--> Nov 11 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/11/06-wot-script-minutes.html
12:11:22 [cris__]
... we merged
12:11:28 [cris__]
... PRs and issues
12:11:38 [kaz]
q+
12:11:43 [cris__]
... ok we can approved them
12:11:53 [cris__]
s/issues/look issues/
12:12:07 [kaz]
s/11/6/
12:12:10 [dape]
s/Nov 11/Nov 6
12:12:25 [kaz]
rrsagent, make log public
12:12:30 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:12:39 [cris__]
topic: Next calls
12:13:00 [cris__]
dape: first of all, xmas is near. We should decide if there will be cancellations
12:13:09 [kaz]
i/Next calls/(approved)/
12:13:21 [kaz]
i/looks fine/scribenick: cris__/
12:13:23 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
12:13:24 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:13:30 [cris__]
... it seems that in other calls they already cancelled calls.
12:14:09 [cris__]
... is the plan ok
12:14:18 [cris__]
s/ok/ok?/
12:14:38 [cris__]
... no call the 25th of december and first of January
12:14:44 [cris__]
... let us know if you don't agree
12:15:07 [cris__]
subtopic: 2 weeks slot call?
12:15:15 [cris__]
dape: 2 calls in a month?
12:15:24 [cris__]
q+
12:15:28 [kaz]
q-
12:15:32 [JKRhb]
q+
12:16:23 [cris__]
cris: 2 weeks slot make sense. We don't have that much topics to discuss
12:16:44 [cris__]
dape: agree
12:16:48 [dape]
ack cris__
12:17:07 [cris__]
jan: second that, we are corrently working mostly async anyway. We can still merge PR once every two weeks
12:17:17 [cris__]
... we can also always switch back
12:18:01 [cris__]
dape: suggestion keep weekly slot but use the wiki to cancel it
12:20:07 [dape]
PROPOSAL: For the near future the Scripting task force is going to have a 2-week schedule. Ahead of time it will be made public the when the next call will take place. W3C calendar entries remain as is for now.
12:20:12 [Mizushima]
q+
12:20:26 [cris__]
+1
12:20:30 [kaz]
q+
12:20:33 [kaz]
ack jk
12:20:36 [dape]
ack JKRhb
12:21:13 [kaz]
ack mi
12:21:49 [kaz]
chair: Daniel
12:22:24 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:23:01 [kaz]
present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi, Zoltan_Kis
12:23:01 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
12:23:02 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:25:14 [cris__]
q+
12:25:19 [kaz]
ack k
12:28:41 [kaz]
ack c
12:28:42 [cris__]
ack c
12:29:07 [cris__]
dape: changing to intention. Meanwhile we discuss the plan
12:29:19 [cris__]
let's see if we can came up with a plan
12:29:22 [kaz]
q+
12:29:41 [cris__]
... and cancel the next call if needed
12:30:16 [cris__]
kaz: if you have a clear time span when you want to have a bi-weekly call you should say it in the text
12:30:22 [cris__]
... near future is vague
12:30:34 [kaz]
ack k
12:30:34 [dape]
INTENTION: For a while the the Scripting API task force might want to have a bi-weekly schedule. Meeting cancellations will be made official ahead of time. W3C calendar entries remain as is for now.
12:31:21 [cris__]
topic: PRs
12:31:25 [cris__]
dape: no updates
12:31:52 [cris__]
... one about improvements, we are stuck and we need time to look into it
12:32:00 [kaz]
s/near future is vague/"near future" is vague. also if your intention is actually "for a while until the work on TD 2.0 and Discovery 1.1 starts", you should say so./
12:32:11 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:32:18 [kaz]
q?
12:32:18 [cris__]
... the next twos are about discovery
12:32:19 [cris__]
... and how to align
12:32:51 [cris__]
subtopic: PR 513
12:33:53 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/513 PR 513 - feat!(typescript): align TypeScript definitions with Discovery API
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12:35:39 [cris_]
cris: looks good to me
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12:36:13 [cris_]
dape: merging PR
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scribenick: cris_
12:37:11 [cris_]
dape: we can now start working with node-wot
12:37:20 [cris_]
jan: it was a blocker, great to merge
12:37:41 [cris_]
dape: thank you jan
12:38:06 [cris_]
subtopic: PR 517
12:38:20 [cris_]
dape: we are using constructors in the webIDL
12:38:34 [cris_]
... it wasn't in the TS definitions
12:38:46 [cris_]
... it is not what we intended
12:39:02 [cris_]
... we should also use the term creating instead of contracting
12:39:20 [cris_]
zoltan: do we have the expose method still ?
12:39:24 [cris_]
dape: yes
12:39:24 [kaz]
i|we are|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/517 PR 517 - feat!: remove constructor from ConsumedThing interface|
12:39:39 [kaz]
q+
12:39:43 [cris_]
q+
12:39:54 [cris_]
zoltan: consistent deciding
12:39:55 [kaz]
s/contract/construct/
12:40:15 [cris_]
... it is a complication and it is misunderstanding
12:41:04 [cris_]
dape: it was there for hystorical reasons
12:41:42 [cris_]
q?
12:41:52 [cris_]
zoltan: ok to merge
12:43:04 [cris_]
kaz: what is the intention? given the current sample code we can remove the constructor code but the text can still say construct
12:44:00 [cris_]
dape: we don't change anything else, but just align the text
12:44:33 [cris_]
kaz: it sounds ok, who and when the object it self is created?
12:45:18 [cris_]
... was it a bug?
12:45:26 [cris_]
dape: it was a leftover from old days
12:45:39 [cris_]
... it was also in ExposeThing
12:49:08 [cris_]
cris: two comments. It is true that creates confusion. In the CG we got feedback about how it was not clear the process to create a ConsumedThing. Second I recall that the constructor was there for facilitating testing, still we can remove it
12:49:18 [cris_]
dape: ok, merging
12:49:30 [cris_]
subtopic: PR #512
12:49:52 [cris_]
dape: kaz created a script to handle duplicated ids created by a bug in respect
12:49:53 [kaz]
s/PR/Issue/
12:50:21 [kaz]
i|kaz cre|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/512 Issue 512 - Add perl script (for fixing duplicate IDs) to master/release folder
12:50:37 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:50:47 [cris_]
dape: added also readme
12:50:49 [cris_]
q+
12:50:58 [kaz]
i/Issue #512/PR #518 and Issue #512/
12:51:00 [kaz]
q-
12:51:06 [cris_]
ack c
12:51:38 [cris_]
... similar to what other repos have
12:51:44 [cris_]
... is that ok to merge it?
12:52:08 [kaz]
q+
12:52:22 [cris_]
zoltan: ok
12:52:30 [kaz]
ack k
12:52:30 [cris_]
kaz: ok too, thank you
12:52:33 [cris_]
jan: ok too
12:52:55 [kaz]
s/ok too,/ok too. if needed, we can modify the description later./
12:53:01 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:53:23 [Mizushima]
+1 me too
12:53:37 [kaz]
i|Issue 512 -|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/518 PR 518 - refactor: add readme and perl script for publication/release|
12:53:42 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
12:53:43 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:54:10 [cris_]
jan: should we add a followup issue?
12:54:21 [cris_]
cris: I little bit overkill but that's ok
12:54:23 [kaz]
s/Issue #512/PR #518 and Issue #512/
12:54:24 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:54:45 [cris_]
dape: it already there
12:54:57 [kaz]
s/I little bit/a little bit/
12:54:59 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:55:06 [cris_]
... Issue 480
12:56:05 [cris_]
subtopic: PR 489
12:56:23 [cris_]
dape: cristiano worked on better typings
12:56:32 [cris_]
... there were problems
12:58:05 [kaz]
i|cristiano worked|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/489 PR 489 - Better types for Scripting API|
12:58:08 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
13:00:08 [cris_]
cris: there are tricky parts
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zoltan: we should take care to not make more restrictions
13:00:36 [cris_]
... than the one are in the algorithms
13:02:15 [JKRhb]
I will also have another look into it :) I hadn't had found a solution for the problem so far as well :/
13:03:02 [JKRhb]
s/had//
13:03:24 [kaz]
[adjourned]
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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