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13:05:04 <kaz> meeting: WoT Discovery
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13:06:26 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Jan_Romann, Kunihiko_Toumura
13:06:30 <McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#20_November_2023
13:06:37 <kaz> chair: McCool
13:06:45 <kaz> topic: Minute
13:06:49 <kaz> s/Minute/Minutes/
13:06:59 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/11/13-wot-discovery-minutes.html Nov-13
13:07:12 <kaz> mm: (goes through the minutes)
13:07:44 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
13:08:13 <kaz> ... look fine
13:08:17 <kaz> (approved)
13:08:26 <kaz> topic: Publications
13:11:40 <kaz> kaz: @@@
13:12:34 <kaz> s/@@@/talked with PLH and he also agreed with using www.w3.org/ns/wot
13:14:10 <kaz> ... note that these days, the trend for Namespace management is putting all the resources under w3c.github.io/w3c/ns and redirect to it from www.w3.org/ns
13:20:47 <kaz> ... w3c.github.io/w3c/wot-resources repository can be mapped to w3c.github.io/ns/wot
13:22:05 <kaz> mm: that's fine
13:22:19 <kaz> ... but still need to think about the content negotiation
13:22:53 <kaz> kaz: why do we need content negotiation for Discovery resources if all the five files just to be mapped to one specific file for each?
13:24:44 <kaz> ... for example, if discovery-ontology.ttl file has an HTML description, whose name is discovery-ontology.html, we need content-negotiation
13:25:06 <kaz> ... but if it's just one file, we don't need content negotiation based on the content-type
13:26:19 <kaz> mm: I'm OK with the direction
13:26:45 <kaz> ... since we need to change the mechanism at some point (e.g., for WoT 2.0)
13:27:13 <kaz> ... in that case, would be better to have "discovery/did" instead of "discovery-did"
13:27:41 <kaz> ... can you make a concrete PR for that purpose?
13:27:45 <kaz> ... or myself can do
13:27:53 <kaz> kaz: whichever is fine
13:28:33 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/ns github.com/w3c/ns - W3C Namespaces repository
13:28:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/ wot-resources repository for WoT WG
13:29:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/ns/wot www.w3.org/ns/wot (which doesn't exist at the moment)
13:29:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/blob/discovery-v1/discovery/v1/README.md Discovery resources
13:30:25 <kaz> s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/blob/discovery-v1/discovery/v1/README.md Discovery resources||
13:30:36 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/tree/main/discovery/v1 Discovery resources
13:42:35 <kaz> mm: we should look into the filenames of the resources again
13:42:51 <kaz> ... we could/should remove redundancy too
13:43:06 <kaz> s/too/within the filenames too/
13:43:14 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:43:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:43:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
13:45:14 <kaz> ... for example, "td-discovery-extensions-json-schema" is kind of too long
13:45:21 <kaz> ... so could make it shorter
13:51:12 <kaz> kaz: note that the pathname without the suffix should be identical between the published url and the local file
13:51:38 <kaz> mm: (changes the published URL and the local file path)
13:51:45 <kaz> ... that would make the things much simpler
13:51:49 <kaz> kaz: right
13:51:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:51:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
13:54:47 <kaz> mm: btw, another question is that we don't have HTML description for Discovery ontologies yet...
13:54:57 <kaz> kaz: that's fine at the moment
13:55:04 <kaz> mm: but we do need them in the future
13:56:04 <kaz> i|btw|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/13 resulted PR 13 on wot-resources - Update URLs|
13:56:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/issues/15 wot-resources Issue 15 - Clean up Discovery Resources
13:57:08 <kaz> mm: now you're happy. right?
13:57:28 <kaz> kaz: yes, and I believe everybody would be also happy later when we need to maintain the resources
13:57:45 <kaz> mm: the remaining question is that we need to convince the TD TF as well
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13:59:55 <kaz> ... TD 1.1 should use the same mechanism
13:59:58 <kaz> kaz: right
14:00:28 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:00:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:00:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/20-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
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