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13:00:09 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
13:00:17 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Michael_Koster
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13:05:43 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
13:06:15 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#15_November_2023
13:06:22 <kaz> topic: Logistics
13:06:40 <kaz> mm: 2-hour call today because we need to talk about the IG Charter
13:06:45 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian
13:06:54 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura
13:07:03 <kaz> topic: Guests, New Members
13:07:05 <kaz> none
13:07:08 <kaz> topic: Minutes
13:07:17 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/11/08-wot-minutes.html Nov-8
13:07:23 <kaz> mm: (goes through the minutes)
13:07:34 <kaz> approved
13:07:40 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:07:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:07:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:07:55 <kaz> topic: Quick updates
13:08:04 <kaz> subtopic: Nordic Smart Cities CG
13:08:22 <kaz> mm: there'll be a meeting of the Nordic Smart Cities CG on Nov 27
13:08:51 <kaz> ... Kaz and the WoT Chairs will join the meeting (during the Discovery call)
13:09:08 <kaz> topic: Meeting schedule
13:09:23 <kaz> mm: (checks the upcoming holidays)
13:09:40 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events holidays and upcoming events
13:10:08 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
13:10:08 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Mahda_Noura, Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura
13:10:28 <kaz> (Discovery on Nov 27 will be cancelled)
13:10:42 <kaz> subtopic: Rescheduling calls
13:10:53 <kaz> mm: any updates on the TD call?
13:10:57 <kaz> ek: will send a proposal
13:11:21 <kaz> ... would include the Chairs call slot
13:11:46 <kaz> mm: note there is the OPC UA call right after that slot
13:11:50 <kaz> q+
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13:12:54 <kaz> ek: another possibility is Thursday 3pm CET
13:13:20 <kaz> mm: talking about 2 calls? or one?
13:13:48 <kaz> ... maybe having calls on Tuesday and Thursday would make sense
13:13:54 <kaz> q?
13:14:30 <kaz> ack k
13:14:45 <kaz> kaz: we don't need to talk about the detail during this cal
13:14:49 <kaz> s/cal/call/
13:15:09 <kaz> ... but we need to clarify the restrictions more explicitly
13:15:21 <kaz> topic: WG planning
13:15:31 <kaz> mm: policy discussion to be done next week on Nov 22
13:15:55 <McCool> proposal: have an extended main call (by 1h) on Nov 22 to discuss policies
13:16:18 <McCool> resolution: have an extended main call (by 1h) on Nov 22 to discuss policies
13:16:36 <kaz> q+
13:17:16 <Ege> q+
13:17:33 <kaz> kaz: the policy discussion should include how to manage the progress of our own spec work too
13:17:38 <kaz> mm: that's true
13:17:39 <kaz> ack k
13:17:40 <kaz> ack e
13:18:31 <kaz> ek: should we consider potential input for the ongoing project management discussions by the Team ad the AB?
13:18:43 <kaz> kaz: my suggestion is no :)
13:18:48 <McCool> q?
13:18:53 <kaz> ... we could work on our own policy first
13:18:57 <kaz> mm: yes
13:19:01 <kaz> topic: Publications
13:19:06 <kaz> subtopic: REC drafts
13:19:19 <kaz> mm: Discovery and Architecture are done from my viewpoint
13:19:22 <kaz> ... what about TD?
13:19:29 <kaz> ek: some open PRs
13:19:37 <kaz> q?
13:19:46 <kaz> q+
13:20:20 <kaz> ack k
13:20:30 <kaz> kaz: we need to make the spec HTML ready
13:20:43 <kaz> ... make the related resources ready
13:21:01 <kaz> ... and also need to identify what the remaining GitHub Issues are like
13:21:38 <kaz> ... by adding some explicit labels like "defer to 2.0", "publication preparation", "editorial", etc.
13:22:30 <kaz> mm: when Kaz makes the Transition Request for RECs, we need to identify the remaining issues within it
13:23:16 <kaz> ... I've worked on Discovery for that
13:23:26 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues Discovery Issues
13:23:33 <kaz> ... and Architecture
13:23:48 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues Architecture Issues
13:24:27 <kaz> ... there are still "by REC publication" issues for TD
13:24:31 <Ege> q+
13:24:38 <kaz> ... but we need to identify how to handle them
13:25:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues TD Issues
13:25:35 <kaz> ... also there are 7 PRs
13:26:05 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pulls TD PRs
13:26:14 <kaz> ... Ege to clarify how to deal with them
13:26:27 <kaz> ml: wondering about them
13:26:40 <kaz> mm: editorial fixes for diagrams, etc.
13:26:50 <Ege> q+
13:26:51 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lagally
13:27:07 <kaz> ml: using open-source tool?
13:27:10 <kaz> ek: yes
13:27:34 <kaz> present+ Luca_Barbato
13:27:46 <kaz> mm: ready to merge them?
13:28:31 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1918 TD PR 1918 - Update 1.1 REC Publication after new process version
13:28:36 <kaz> s/them/PR 1918/
13:28:41 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:28:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:28:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:29:27 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
13:29:51 <kaz> ek: still need to fix link errors
13:30:19 <kaz> q+
13:30:38 <kaz> ack e
13:30:39 <kaz> ack k
13:30:55 <kaz> kaz: which is the correct URL for ETSI, https or http?
13:31:00 <kaz> mm: https
13:31:09 <kaz> ... but apparently specref uses http wrongly
13:31:31 <kaz> kaz: has raised an Issue for that?
13:31:34 <kaz> mm: Ege did
13:31:47 <kaz> ... any objection for merging this?
13:31:50 <kaz> (none)
13:32:04 <kaz> merged
13:32:05 <Ege> https://github.com/tobie/specref/pull/757 is the PR I did to specref
13:32:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:32:56 <kaz> mm: what about the other "by REC publication" ones?
13:33:55 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22by+REC+publication%22 TD Issues marked as "by REC publication"
13:34:10 <kaz> mm: why don't we mark Issue 1894 as "resources" instead?
13:34:44 <kaz> q+
13:35:26 <kaz> s/mm: why don't we mark Issue 1894 as "resources" instead?//
13:35:51 <kaz> kaz: this is related to the automatically generated text by ReSpec
13:36:00 <kaz> ... so we don't need to care about that
13:37:40 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 1509
13:38:19 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1509 TD Issue 1509 - We need to update the TD IANA entry and sync with TM content
13:38:48 <kaz> mm: relabel as "External SDO" instead
13:39:17 <kaz> (no "by REC publication" issues now)
13:39:36 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 1894 - revisited
13:40:21 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1894 TD Issue 1894 - Clarifying "Future updates to this Recommendation" section
13:40:25 <kaz> q+
13:41:38 <kaz> kaz: the text of "Future updates to this REC..." is based on the latest process document
13:41:52 <kaz> ... and all/most of the latest RECs include that text
13:42:33 <kaz> ... we also can include the line safely
13:42:35 <kaz> ack k
13:43:36 <kaz> ... at some point, ReSpec will generate that line automatically, I think
13:43:38 <kaz> mm: right
13:44:09 <kaz> ... so now all the spec drafts should be ready for the transition request
13:45:19 <kaz> kaz: let's record that as a resolution
13:46:01 <McCool> proposal: WG confirms that Architecture 1.1, Discovery, and TD 1.1 REC drafts have been updated to the latest process document and that all related remaining issues have been identified, and that we should proceed with the REC transition request.
13:46:32 <McCool> resolution: WG confirms that Architecture 1.1, Discovery, and TD 1.1 REC drafts have been updated to the latest process document and that all related remaining issues have been identified, and that we should proceed with the REC transition request.
13:46:50 <kaz> subtopic: Ontologies and Schemas
13:46:57 <kaz> mm: some recent changes
13:47:21 <kaz> ... would merge the remaining PR 12
13:47:50 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/12 wot-resources PR 12 - Sync TD resources
13:48:07 <kaz> mm: (goes through the PR)
13:48:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minute
13:48:13 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:48:18 <kaz> s/rrsagent, draft minute//
13:48:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:48:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:48:28 <kaz> chair: McCool, Koster
13:49:15 <kaz> ... fixing problems with the ontologies
13:49:22 <kaz> ... would like to merge this PR
13:50:27 <kaz> (merged)
13:50:41 <kaz> mm: what about the responses from the Webmaster and PLH?
13:51:08 <kaz> kaz: got a response from the Webmaster, who agrees with my suggestion on the simpler mechanism
13:51:17 <kaz> ... but still waiting for the response from PLH
13:51:44 <kaz> mm: for the 1.0 spec, we had 5 resources and the setting was messy at that time already
13:51:59 <kaz> ... now we have 20 resources
13:52:21 <kaz> ... but I'm reluctant to change the mechanism now
13:53:58 <kaz> kaz: @@@
13:54:13 <kaz> ... would make our work for 2.0 version also much easier
13:54:33 <kaz> mm: let's see what the potential changes would be
13:55:00 <kaz> ... basically w3.org/2022/wot/discovery => w3.org/ns/wot/discovery
13:55:35 <Ege> q+
13:55:50 <kaz> ... what would be the merit for that?
13:56:01 <kaz> kaz: we can manage the structure ourselves
13:56:51 <kaz> ... we don't care about v1 specs, which are already handled the previous mechanism
13:59:28 <kaz> ... however, I'd suggest we should discuss this separately rather than diving into it today, because we need to talk about the IG Charter today
13:59:47 <kaz> ... note that PLH might have a different opinion from mine
14:00:05 <kaz> ... so we should discuss this issue after getting his suggestion
14:00:38 <kaz> ack e
14:01:09 <kaz> mm: possibly, we could use w3.org/ns/wot/discovery/v1/context
14:01:19 <kaz> ... but not sure we would like that direction
14:03:03 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/13
14:03:26 <kaz> ek: don't understand what would be complicated with the current mechanism
14:03:33 <kaz> kaz: anyway, I'd suggest we not talk about this today
14:03:48 <kaz> ... let's have discussion again after getting response from PLH
14:03:51 <kaz> mm: ok
14:04:02 <kaz> topic: Press release
14:04:15 <kaz> mm: draft text is fixed
14:05:07 <kaz> kaz: MarComm is installing that on the W3C server
14:05:19 <kaz> ... but we still need to wait for the publication date
14:05:37 <kaz> mm: need to wait for the translations as well
14:05:59 <kaz> i|draft text is|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md draft text|
14:06:10 <kaz> topic: TPAC minutes
14:06:36 <kaz> mm: we've been reviewing the minutes
14:07:06 <kaz> ... there is a note on Use Cases and Requirements too
14:07:06 <kaz> q+
14:07:35 <kaz> kaz: yes
14:07:46 <kaz> ... and TD/Binding part also done by Koster
14:07:48 <kaz> q-
14:07:51 <kaz> mm: ok
14:08:07 <kaz> ... let's merge the UC/Req part then
14:08:08 <kaz> (merged)
14:09:09 <kaz> i|there is a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1136 PR 1136 - Create 2023-09-14-WoT-TPAC-UseCases-Discussion.md
14:09:37 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1137 PR 1137 - Create 2023-09-15-WoT-TPAC-Architecture-Discussion.md
14:09:50 <kaz> mm: can be merged for Architecture
14:09:53 <kaz> (merged)
14:10:35 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1135 PR 1135 - Create 2023-09-14-WoT-TPAC-Accessibility-Discussion.md
14:10:45 <kaz> mm: extracted actions from the APA minutes
14:10:47 <kaz> (merged)
14:11:14 <kaz> mm: What about TD/Binding?
14:11:22 <kaz> mjk: we've already merged it
14:12:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1141 PR 114 - Create 2023-09-WoT-TPAC-TD-Discussion.md
14:12:45 <kaz> mm: ok
14:13:43 <kaz> subtopic: Day 1 minutes
14:13:50 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/14-wot-minutes.html Day 1
14:13:59 <McCool> proposal: Accept minutes for Day 1 of TPAC WoT minutes at https://www.w3.org/2023/09/14-wot-minutes.html
14:14:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:14:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:14:31 <McCool> resolution: Accept minutes for Day 1 of TPAC WoT minutes at https://www.w3.org/2023/09/14-wot-minutes.html
14:15:00 <kaz> subtopic: Day 2 minutes
14:15:07 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/15-wot-minutes.html Day 2
14:16:10 <McCool> proposal: Accept minutes for Day 2 of TPAC WoT minutes at https://www.w3.org/2023/09/15-wot-minutes.html
14:16:24 <McCool> resolution: Accept minutes for Day 2 of TPAC WoT minutes at https://www.w3.org/2023/09/15-wot-minutes.html
14:16:30 <kaz> q+
14:17:27 <Ege> q+
14:17:35 <kaz> ack k
14:18:53 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg/blob/main/Minutes/2023/2023_09_14-minutes.md and https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg/blob/main/Minutes/2023/2023_09_15-minutes.md
14:19:09 <kaz> i|https|kaz: as I put there, we should record the minutes of the joint meetings with Web Agent CG and WoT CG would be better|
14:19:22 <kaz> i|https|mm: let's confirm them next time|
14:20:16 <kaz> i|https|kaz: that's fine, but at least the bullet points on different roles of WoT WG, WoT IG and WoT CG should be recorded somewhere as the starting point for the IG Charter discussion.|
14:20:42 <kaz> i|https|ek: actually, the minutes from the WoT CG joint meeting are copied to the GitHub area.|
14:20:51 <kaz> [ break ]
14:20:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:20:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:21:22 <kaz> s/topic: Publications//
14:21:33 <kaz> s/subtopic: REC drafts/topic: REC drafts/
14:22:46 <kaz> i|there are still "|topic: Remaining TD Issues/PRs|
14:22:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:22:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:23:17 <kaz> i|ready to merge PR 1918|subtopic: PR 1918|
14:23:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:23:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:24:40 <kaz> i|what about the other "by|subtopic: Issue 1894|
14:24:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:24:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:25:45 <kaz> i|so now|topic: REC drafts - revisited|
14:25:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:25:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:26:09 <kaz> s/subtopic: Ontolo/topic: Ontolo/
14:26:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:26:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:27:00 <kaz> i|we've been revi|subtopic: Notes from the minutes|
14:27:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:27:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:27:10 <mahda-noura> ScribeNick: mahda-noura
14:27:30 <kaz> i|as I put there|subtopic: Minutes from the joint meetings|
14:27:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:27:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:27:39 <kaz> scribenick: mahda-noura
14:27:58 <mahda-noura> Chair: Michael Koster
14:28:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:28:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:28:53 <kaz> chair: McCool, Koster
14:28:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:28:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:29:11 <kaz> topic: IG Charter
14:29:22 <mahda-noura> mm: a section describing use cases, he made them consistent and expanded them to include consumer, industrial, agricultural and environmental
14:29:32 <mahda-noura> ...he also changed some wordings
14:30:19 <mahda-noura> ...modified the hypermedia-driven interaction section to emphasize a broader case
14:31:19 <kaz> q+
14:31:33 <mahda-noura> ...changed Linked Data, added accessibility, machine learning/artificial intelligence
14:31:40 <mahda-noura> ...added a link to the previous charter
14:32:33 <kaz> ack k
14:32:36 <kaz> ack e
14:32:37 <mahda-noura> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/commit/main
14:32:52 <mjk> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/commit/105d231c33541fb1ee7956a882994587a09e513b
14:32:58 <kaz> i|a section|subtopic: McCool commit without PR|
14:33:19 <kaz> i|a section|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/commit/105d231c33541fb1ee7956a882994587a09e513b McCool's commit|
14:33:48 <mahda-noura> mm: there is a typo in the current commit which needs to be fixed
14:34:46 <mahda-noura> ...mm added a paragraoh regarding privacy and security, link to the security and privacy guideline document, he didn't the internationalization too much only put it in context
14:35:00 <kaz> s/paragraoh/paragraph/
14:35:14 <mahda-noura> ...some minor typo issues would be fixed later by Michael McCool
14:35:32 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/commit/105d231c33541fb1ee7956a882994587a09e513b||
14:35:37 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/commit/main||
14:35:38 <mahda-noura> ...we can now review it
14:35:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minute
14:35:45 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:35:49 <kaz> s/rrsagent, draft minute//
14:35:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:35:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:36:13 <mjk> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/132
14:36:26 <kaz> i|https|subtopic: PR 132|
14:36:48 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/132|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/132 PR 132 - IG Charter 2023: Update Deliverables|
14:36:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:36:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:37:57 <Ege> q+
14:37:57 <mahda-noura> mm: we didn't clearly state that the use case and requirement is also in the interest of of IG, this is added. Implementation report removed as it is not an IG task
14:38:17 <Ege> Also see: https://www.w3.org/WoT/cg/
14:38:25 <kaz> s/of of/of/
14:39:09 <mahda-noura> Ege: I would just revert the ending, related community groups to the WoT
14:39:10 <kaz> q+
14:39:29 <mahda-noura> mm: we could do that, we can leave the PR open for additional suggestions
14:40:15 <kaz> ack e
14:40:30 <mahda-noura> mm: we could also merge it to avoid conflicts later on, and then iteratively proceed
14:40:58 <mahda-noura> mjk: I don't see anything that would be against merging it
14:41:24 <mahda-noura> mm: we only have one month left, I think personally finish by December
14:41:45 <kaz> q?
14:41:56 <mahda-noura> mm: I think we should merge it, and if you have a problem create suggestions
14:42:04 <mahda-noura> Ege: I just created one
14:42:40 <mahda-noura> kaz: I am also okay for merging this, the title say deliverables, we should think about the deliverable and scope section seperately
14:42:52 <mahda-noura> ...ideally the diagram on the realtion should be updated
14:43:35 <mahda-noura> mm: we should create a link to the other section with the scope, where more details are added there
14:44:06 <mahda-noura> kaz: for this PR we should specifically consider the group relationship seperatly
14:44:18 <mahda-noura> mm: I don't want to prevent the IG from mentioning tutorial
14:44:37 <mahda-noura> kaz: merging this PR is fine, we should first start with mission, and vision
14:44:57 <mahda-noura> mm: lets not merge yet now, and look at the mission statement
14:45:11 <kaz> s/vision/scope, then deliverables/
14:45:22 <kaz> s/we should/but we should/
14:45:36 <kaz> q?
14:45:40 <kaz> q-
14:46:08 <mahda-noura> subtopic: PR 131
14:46:14 <mahda-noura> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/131
14:46:23 <kaz> s/for this PR we should specifically consider the group relationship seperatly/for this PR itself, we should concentrate on the description of deliverables/
14:46:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:46:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:46:52 <kaz> s/lets/let's/
14:46:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:46:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:47:33 <mahda-noura> mm: the original text is reworded to mention "WoT approach seek to..."
14:47:38 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/131|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/131 PR 131 - Update IG 2023 Mission Statement|
14:47:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:47:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:48:22 <mahda-noura> ...I added line 137, as interest groups we are seeking to build a deeper understanding of stakeholder needs
14:48:39 <mahda-noura> ...this related to what we are doing with the use case activity
14:49:17 <mahda-noura> ...the final line is to align WoT standard via W3C SDO liaisons
14:49:46 <mahda-noura> ...I suggest we leave this PR open and take suggestions
14:49:47 <kaz> q+
14:49:59 <mahda-noura> mjk: any comments on this?
14:50:32 <mahda-noura> kaz: I suggest to describe what the W3C WoT approach seeks
14:51:17 <mahda-noura> mm: we could say the W3C WoT standard
14:52:32 <mahda-noura> mm: this suggestion is taken into account directly and changed to: The W3C Web of Things standards seek to counter the fragmentation of the...
14:53:25 <mahda-noura> mjk: any other suggestion?
14:53:44 <kaz> s/to describe what the W3C WoT approach seeks/we say "W3C WoT standards seek" instead of "WoT approach seeks"/
14:53:46 <mahda-noura> mm: should we extend the SDO acronym?
14:53:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:53:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:54:29 <kaz> q+
14:55:22 <kaz> ack k
14:55:42 <mahda-noura> kaz: it would be probably better to say instead of "W3C SDO liaisons" to align W3C Web of Things standards with other standards via liaisons
14:56:08 <mahda-noura> mjk: any additional change?
14:56:13 <mahda-noura> (none)
14:56:53 <kaz> s/ say instead of "W3C SDO liaisons" to align W3C Web of Things standards with other standards via liaisons/ simply say "via liaisons" instead of "via W3C SDO liaisons"/
14:56:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:58:19 <kaz> q+
14:58:28 <mahda-noura> mjk: merged PR number 132
14:59:36 <mahda-noura> kaz: PR 131 could be also merged today
15:00:30 <kaz> s/mm: let's not merge yet now, and look at the mission statement/mm: let's not merge yet now, and look at the mission statement then revisit this/
15:00:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:01:12 <mahda-noura> mjk: any objections to merging PR number 131?
15:01:12 <mahda-noura> (none)
15:01:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:01:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:01:22 <mahda-noura> mm: lets do policies next week
15:01:24 <kaz> i/merged PR number 132/subtopic: Merging PR 132 and 131/
15:01:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:01:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:01:32 <kaz> s/lets/let's/
15:01:55 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:01:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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