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15:57:35 <dbooth> Meeting: FHIR RDF
15:57:38 <dbooth> Chair: David Booth
16:11:00 <dbooth> Topic: Concept IRIs
16:11:31 <dbooth> gaurav: Working on this ticket: https://jira.hl7.org/browse/UP-464
16:11:54 <dbooth> ... Need to email committee leads to get a vote scheduled.
16:13:33 <dbooth> ... We made  a change to the FHIR spec for version 5.  Added a dash to the names in the naming system fields, but didn't in the code system fields.
16:13:41 <dbooth> https://build.fhir.org/codesystem-namingsystem-identifier-type.html
16:13:45 <dbooth> https://terminology.hl7.org/CodeSystem-v2-0203.html
16:14:27 <dbooth> gaurav: Fix this?  We could add a hyphen into the code system.  Or if we want to standardize to no hyphen, that would require a change to FHIR.
16:14:53 <dbooth> rob: v2 code system follows that pattern.  Why do we need to update a v2 code system?
16:15:17 <dbooth> gaurav: I think there's a LOINC code system.
16:16:18 <dbooth> rob: To match the style of that code system, then without hyphen seems okay.
16:16:32 <dbooth> ... It matches the typical convention of that.
16:17:02 <dbooth> ... None of the others have a hyphen, so I could see removing the hyphen.
16:17:22 <dbooth> ... Codes often use hyphens.
16:17:49 <dbooth> ... I'd leave it alone.
16:18:42 <dbooth> dbooth: Benefit in having them both have the hyphen or both without the hyphen.
16:21:07 <dbooth> gaurav: Removing the dash is a change to FHIR, adding the change would be a change to THO.
16:22:00 <dbooth> ... Easy thing would be to add the hyphen to THO.
16:22:09 <dbooth> rob: That would be the worst thing.
16:23:32 <dbooth> ... Another precedent, style convention, in V2 and V3 codes never have dashes and always upper case, but in FHIR they may have them and may have different case.
16:23:54 <dbooth> ... Dashes are common in FHIR.
16:24:27 <dbooth> erich: Agree w consistency.
16:24:47 <dbooth> ... Would opt for consistency.
16:25:47 <dbooth> rob: naming system must be lower case.  FOr code system, must have upper case.
16:28:18 <dbooth> jim: I like consistency.  Sounds like most aligned w convention would be to remove the dash, but don't know how much turmoil that causes.
16:31:19 <dbooth> jim: Changing FIHR spec would cause confusion.
16:32:52 <dbooth> dbooth; Could treat it as an erratum until R6.
16:33:40 <dbooth> rob: Bug fixes to R5 are likely to be scoped to critical changes.
16:35:15 <dbooth> dbooth: How are people leaning?
16:35:23 <dbooth> gaurav: Don't care.
16:35:40 <dbooth> jim: Leaning to leaving it along.
16:35:53 <dbooth> tim: neutral.
16:36:15 <dbooth> rob: on the fence.  okay w change proposal.
16:36:26 <dbooth> erich: leave it alone.
16:37:02 <dbooth> dbooth: Anyone opposed to leaving it as is.
16:37:12 <dbooth> AGREED: Leave it as is.
16:37:51 <dbooth> gaurav: Next issue: want to create a PR for next concept IRIs, i think MESH and something else.
16:38:34 <dbooth> Topic: Fixes to Turtle examples.
16:39:27 <dbooth> jim: I'll nudge them in zulip.   Also made an issue on unit tests.
16:39:32 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/136
16:41:25 <dbooth> dbooth: I thought that there were round trip tests, but they got disabled in the build because they took too long.
16:42:14 <dbooth> tim: In R5 we switched to a different parser/generator.  The tests are duplicated across FHIR version.
16:43:23 <dbooth> jim: Would be a waste of time to do a custom FHIR RDF parser, given that we have Jena.
16:45:03 <dbooth> dbooth: Need to check w EricP about HAPI FHIR.
16:46:19 <dbooth> tim: Could add some turtle unit test for R5.
16:48:16 <dbooth> dbooth: How many?
16:48:38 <dbooth> tim: WOuld be nice to do the ones that currently have bugs
16:48:54 <dbooth> ... I can take this on.
16:49:51 <dbooth> Topic: FHIR RDF browser
16:50:28 <dbooth> tim: The app I showed you I hooked to a FHIR server, and the HAPI fhir server can give RDF, but it needs to be updated to give R5.
16:51:02 <dbooth> ... It says it is giving R5, but it's actually giving R5.
16:55:06 <dbooth> Present: Erich Bremer, Tim Prudhomme, Rob Hausam, Jim Balhoff, David Booth, Gaurav Vaidya
16:55:15 <dbooth> ADJOURNED
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