15:00:42 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #apa
15:00:46 <RRSAgent> logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/11/08-apa-irc
15:00:46 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:00:47 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
15:00:57 <IrfanAli> IrfanAli has joined #apa
15:01:02 <mike_beganyi> mike_beganyi has joined #apa
15:01:03 <janina> Chair:  Matthew
15:01:03 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
15:01:03 <janina> agenda+ Conference Attendance Checkins
15:01:03 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
15:01:06 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
15:01:09 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
15:01:12 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:01:14 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
15:01:17 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
15:01:19 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
15:01:22 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:01:24 <janina> agenda+ be done
15:01:30 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
15:01:58 <janina>  Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
15:02:06 <janina> Date: 08 Nov 2023
15:03:09 <mike_beganyi> present+
15:03:17 <janina> present+
15:03:47 <niklasegger> niklasegger has joined #apa
15:04:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger has joined #APA
15:04:06 <niklasegger> present+
15:04:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
15:04:11 <niklasegger> scribe+ niklasegger
15:04:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here
15:04:15 <Zakim> Lionel_Wolberger, you need to end that query with '?'
15:04:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
15:04:20 <Zakim> Present: mike_beganyi, janina, niklasegger, Lionel_Wolberger
15:04:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, niklasegger, mike_beganyi, IrfanAli, RRSAgent, Zakim, matatk, Roy, kirkwood, duga, nigel, janina, jamesn, joraboi445, M2cshkpcgrp, imlostlmao,
15:04:20 <Zakim> ... sonicscrewdriver, gonzu_15, gb, tink, Rachael, slightlyoff, cwilso, ada, agendabot, jcraig
15:04:23 <matatk> present+
15:04:30 <Roy> present+
15:04:32 <matatk> present+ PaulG
15:04:46 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:04:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
15:05:53 <niklasegger> matatk: I'm glad to be back, looking forward working together again
15:06:16 <Nichole> Nichole has joined #apa
15:06:24 <Nichole> present+
15:08:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1 glad to have Matt here, now from Samsung!
15:08:19 <Fredrik> Fredrik has joined #apa
15:08:25 <Fredrik> present+
15:08:38 <matatk> q?
15:08:42 <niklasegger> janina: We have now a liason with coga, more details next week
15:08:43 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:08:43 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Conference Attendance Checkins -- taken up [from janina]
15:08:48 <IrfanAli> Present+
15:08:52 <Fredrik> Matthew! Whoop whoop! With far superior sound quality to boot!
15:11:29 <niklasegger> matatk: Who is going to be at CSUN 2024? (Please ask in your taskforces, who is also going)
15:11:48 <niklasegger> Nichole: I'm going
15:13:27 <niklasegger> matatk: Awesome, and who is going to AccessU next year in Austin, Texas in May?
15:15:01 <niklasegger> matatk: Anyone who is in a taskforce please report back, who is going
15:16:01 <niklasegger> Nichole: I'm also going to ATAI
15:16:14 <matatk> s/ATAI/ATIA/
15:16:25 <niklasegger> Fredrik: I'm going to the Zero Project next year
15:16:32 <niklasegger> Lionel_Wolberger: Me too
15:16:38 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:16:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
15:16:53 <Roy> subtopic: Browser Tools and Testing WG (WebDriver) rechartering
15:16:54 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2024/btt-wg.html
15:16:54 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/438
15:16:58 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/438 -> Issue 438 Browser Tools and Testing WG (WebDriver) rechartering (by sideshowbarker) [Horizontal review requested] [charter]
15:17:43 <niklasegger> Roy: They want to have a liason with, work with us. There is a possibility of a11y considerations
15:18:49 <niklasegger> matatk: I think we just need to work with them in general, but let me double check. I don't think they ask for a specifiy liason, more like a horizontal review
15:19:29 <janina> TPAC 2024 is a hybrid meeting the week of 23-27 September 2024. In person will be at the Hilton Anaheim, California uSA
15:20:15 <matatk> q?
15:20:37 <niklasegger> matatk: I don't see any concerning parts, I think we can sign it off. Are there any objections?
15:20:49 <niklasegger> (... no objections)
15:21:01 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:21:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
15:21:33 <niklasegger> matatk: Any new comments/ requests?
15:21:38 <Roy> subtopic: [accordion] UA ability for user to over-ride exclusive accordions functionality
15:21:38 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/openui/open-ui/issues/925
15:21:39 <gb> https://github.com/openui/open-ui/issues/925 -> Issue 925 [accordion] UA ability for user to over-ride exclusive accordions functionality (by gregwhitworth) [a11y-tracker] [accordion]
15:22:07 <Roy> subtopic: Clarify details documentation for a11y and usage
15:22:07 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9899
15:22:08 <gb> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9899 -> Issue 9899 Clarify details documentation for a11y and usage (by scottaohara) [accessibility] [a11y-tracker]
15:23:41 <niklasegger> janina: Big topic, since a few years. We should keep an eye on it
15:25:42 <janina> q+
15:27:51 <niklasegger> matatk: I'm going to have a look into these threads. Once I have understood the situation better I will post in the list
15:27:53 <matatk> q?
15:27:56 <matatk> ack janina
15:30:15 <matatk> q?
15:30:42 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:30:42 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
15:31:51 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/66
15:31:51 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/66 -> Issue 66 DAPT 2021-07-18 (by nigelmegitt) [REVIEW REQUESTED] [FPWD] [pending]
15:31:59 <niklasegger> matatk: I thought we have done the DAPT one?
15:33:26 <niklasegger> matatk: They have been waiting since July
15:33:59 <niklasegger> matatk: Do you want to take a look at it Fredrik?
15:34:04 <niklasegger> Fredrik: Yeah, sure
15:34:54 <niklasegger> janina: I'll have a look too and hopefully a response ready by next week
15:36:17 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:36:17 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
15:36:28 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:36:28 <Zakim> agendum 6 was just opened, matatk
15:36:36 <matatk> zakim, close this item
15:36:36 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
15:36:37 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:36:37 <Zakim> 7. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
15:36:39 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:36:39 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
15:37:32 <niklasegger> Paul: There is nothing going on right now. I've spent a lot of time on APIs
15:38:55 <niklasegger> matatk: There are two things I want to mention: In the TPAC meeting we were in, friday evening, with CSS. They introduced us to 3 proposals from Google to make summaries more accessible
15:40:03 <matatk> Check under "next steps" for the CSS meeting, via our APA TPAC 2023 page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023#CSS
15:41:03 <niklasegger> matatk: Happy to hear opinions on that... just post to the list
15:42:38 <niklasegger> matatk: Another interesting discussion about focus indicator and the problem with dark modes. Developers forgetting some aspects resulting in not accessbile focus indicatos
15:43:14 <niklasegger> matatk: Please everyone have a look at the linked wiki-page. A lot of interessting discussions
15:44:50 <niklasegger> matatk: For example, anchor positions, to create accessible floating widgets, menus for example
15:45:52 <niklasegger> Paul: Also important with anchor positions, you focus an element but it leaves the DOM, you would have to tab through the page to get back to the position you were. Anchor positions also want to tackle that problem
15:48:22 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:48:22 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
15:49:08 <niklasegger> matatk: I'm catching up on mine
15:49:18 <matatk> zakim, close this item
15:49:19 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
15:49:20 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:49:20 <Zakim> 9. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
15:49:20 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:49:21 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
15:49:59 <matatk> zakim, close this item
15:49:59 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
15:50:00 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:50:00 <Zakim> 10. Other Business [from janina]
15:50:02 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:50:03 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
15:50:31 <niklasegger> janina: We are thinking about changing the ADAPT call
15:51:03 <niklasegger> matatk: e are thinking of changing from Monday at 10am Boston to Tuesday at 10am Boston
15:51:19 <matatk> s/e are/we are/
15:52:39 <niklasegger> janina: Typically we take the two weeks at the end of year off. Just a heads up at this point
15:53:15 <matatk> q?
15:53:19 <matatk> zakim, close this item
15:53:19 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
15:53:20 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:53:20 <Zakim> 11. be done [from janina]
15:53:24 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:53:24 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
15:53:42 <niklasegger> rrsagent, make minutes
15:53:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/08-apa-minutes.html niklasegger
16:00:25 <janina> zakim, end meeting
16:00:25 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been mike_beganyi, janina, niklasegger, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Roy, PaulG, Nichole, Fredrik, IrfanAli
16:00:27 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:00:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/08-apa-minutes.html Zakim
16:00:33 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
16:00:35 <Zakim> Zakim has left #apa
16:00:39 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:00:39 <RRSAgent> I see no action items