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13:01:30 <kaz> meeting: WoT Security
13:01:46 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Jan_Romann, Luca_Barbato
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13:04:06 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:04:47 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#30_October_2023
13:06:47 <luca_barbato> scribenick: luca_barbato
13:07:19 <kaz> topic: Minutes
13:07:29 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-wot-sec-minutes.html Oct-23
13:07:33 <luca_barbato> mm: No objections to approve the minutes?
13:07:38 <luca_barbato> <none>
13:07:59 <luca_barbato> topic: PR
13:09:04 <kaz> q+
13:09:34 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/233
13:09:40 <luca_barbato> mm: There are no PR for Security
13:09:48 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/pulls no PR for wot-security
13:09:50 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232
13:09:51 <luca_barbato> mm: but there is a UseCases PR related
13:10:15 <kaz> i/There are/subtopic: Security PRs/
13:10:31 <kaz> i/232/subtopic: Use Cases PR/
13:10:38 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/233||
13:11:18 <kaz> i|232|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/233 wot-use cases PR 233 - Template for Category/Risk org for Security Requirements|
13:11:44 <luca_barbato> mm: We should look at the Categories in UseCases that touch Security
13:12:01 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232 related wot-usecases Issue 232 - Create Security Categories for Use Cases|
13:12:08 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:12:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:12:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz
13:12:21 <luca_barbato> mm: I would explain better Public and Private to be more explanatory
13:12:32 <kaz> chair: McCool
13:12:38 <luca_barbato> mm: Public -> Public Services, Private -> Private Information
13:13:25 <luca_barbato> the other categories are
13:13:38 <luca_barbato> s/the other/mm: the other/
13:14:59 <luca_barbato> mm: The other two categories: Safety-Critical, as per the SIFIS use-case, Business-Critical, misuse that can cause economic/reputation damages
13:20:48 <kaz> q+
13:21:27 <luca_barbato> mm: I plan to rework the Use Case sections as detailed in the related issue.
13:22:42 <luca_barbato> q+
13:23:58 <kaz> ack k
13:26:45 <kaz> kaz: would be nice to align with the wide review viewpoints for WoT 2.0 specs, so would be good to have those viewpoints as part of the use case template
13:26:53 <kaz> i/would be/scribenick: kaz/
13:28:14 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/234
13:30:16 <JKRhb> q+
13:30:16 <luca_barbato> mm: The categorization between Technical and Functional does not really fit well security
13:30:22 <luca_barbato> ack l
13:30:41 <luca_barbato> jkr: is it really required to make this distinction?
13:30:50 <kaz> i|234|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232#issuecomment-1785155284 McCool's comment on Issue 232|
13:31:16 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/234|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/234 related wot-usecases Issue 234 - Create Accessibility Categories for Use Cases|
13:32:02 <kaz> i|The categorization|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/235 another related wot-usecases Issue 235 - Create Internationalization Categories for Use Cases|
13:32:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz
13:33:01 <kaz> i/The categorization b/scribenick: luca_barbato/
13:33:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:33:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz
13:38:34 <kaz> q?
13:39:10 <kaz> ack j
13:40:12 <JKRhb> scribenick: JKRhb
13:40:45 <JKRhb> mm: I am going to finish the PR which we can discuss in more detail next week
13:40:53 <JKRhb> ... (adds a comment to the issue)
13:40:54 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232#issuecomment-1785226125
13:41:09 <JKRhb> ... we can then finish the meeting early today
13:41:39 <JKRhb> ... my plan is now finishing the PR, doing the rest is more technical
13:41:51 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232#issuecomment-1785226125|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/232#issuecomment-1785226125 McCool's comments for wot-usecases Issue 232 based on today's discussion|
13:42:01 <JKRhb> ... then we can go through the remaining requirements and see which category they fall into
13:42:04 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:42:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz
13:42:53 <JKRhb> [adjourned]
13:43:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:43:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz
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