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14:12:36 <luca_barbato> scribenick: luca_barbato
14:12:48 <luca_barbato> topic: Previous minutes
14:13:06 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Luca_Barbato, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:13:26 <luca_barbato> mm: No objection to approve the minutes?
14:13:28 <luca_barbato> <none>
14:13:42 <luca_barbato> topic: REC Preparation
14:13:45 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#23_October_2023
14:14:04 <kaz> i|No ob|-> https://www.w3.org/2023/10/02-wot-discovery-minutes.html Oct-2|
14:14:16 <kaz> present+ Andrea_Cimmino
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14:14:21 <kaz> q+
14:14:21 <luca_barbato> mm: There are some tecnical issues with Pubrules servers
14:14:34 <kaz> ack k
14:14:41 <kaz> s/tecnical/technical/
14:14:44 <luca_barbato> mm: Once they are solved we should be done
14:14:55 <luca_barbato> topic: Resources
14:15:07 <kaz> i|Once|-> https://www.w3.org/pubrules/ Pubruels Checker|
14:15:22 <kaz> i|Resou|kaz: already sent the issue to the sysreq IRC channel|
14:15:33 <luca_barbato> mm: They should be almost ready, they should not change beside bugfixes
14:15:40 <kaz> i/already/scribenick: kaz/
14:15:52 <kaz> i/They/scibenick: luca_barbato/
14:16:36 <luca_barbato> mm: I have a PR open that reorganize the content and README to be similar to what the TD TF is doing
14:16:45 <luca_barbato> ... as discussed in the Main Call.
14:17:39 <luca_barbato> mm: We should figure out if github can serve the files with the right content-type
14:18:50 <luca_barbato> mm: I prefer not change `-`-separated resources with `/`-separated resources
14:19:13 <luca_barbato> mm: in v1.1 or v2 we might change it to be more uniform
14:19:44 <luca_barbato> q+
14:21:04 <luca_barbato> ac: Usage-wise having two url to the same resources might be handy for users
14:21:18 <luca_barbato> ac: But having unique resources is important
14:21:56 <luca_barbato> ac: The good practice suggests to have a single url as identifier
14:24:07 <kaz> i|They should be|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/7 wot-resources PR 7 - Publish WoT Discovery v1 resources|
14:25:02 <kaz> i|They should|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/blob/discovery-v1/discovery/v1/README.md wot-resources/discovery/v1/README.md in PR 7|
14:25:07 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:25:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:25:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:25:36 <luca_barbato> lu: the path is used by the implementors as key, so they do not care about their shape as long it is permanent
14:27:16 <luca_barbato> mm: Most consumers would use only `wot/discovery` and `wot/discovery/model/directory` as context an none of the other directly
14:27:42 <luca_barbato> mm: We may need a group resolution and a main resolution
14:28:04 <luca_barbato> mm: How long it takes to have them published once we mark them as published Kaz?
14:28:11 <kaz> q+
14:28:15 <kaz> ack l
14:28:16 <kaz> ack k
14:28:17 <luca_barbato> kaz: Depends on the webmaster availability
14:28:51 <kaz> q+
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14:31:01 <luca_barbato> kaz: My preference is that the basename of file and publishing url is the same
14:31:31 <luca_barbato> ... to have a simpler deployment
14:33:48 <McCool> proposal: Proceed with merge of PR #7 in wot-resources for discovery resources and support resolution in main call to submit these for publication at the URLs specified in the discovery/v1/README.md file.
14:34:32 <kaz> q+
14:38:53 <McCool> proposal: Proceed with merge of PR #7 in wot-resources for discovery resources and support resolution in main call to submit these for publication at the URLs specified in the discovery/v1/README.md file, subject to discussion with PLH and W3C webmaster.
14:39:39 <luca_barbato> mm: Any objections?
14:39:51 <luca_barbato> <none>
14:40:17 <McCool> proposal: Discovery TF recommends merging PR #7 in wot-resources for discovery resources and support resolution in main call to submit these for publication at the URLs specified in the discovery/v1/README.md file, subject to discussion with PLH and W3C webmaster.
14:40:40 <McCool> resolution: Discovery TF recommends merging PR #7 in wot-resources for discovery resources and support resolution in main call to submit these for publication at the URLs specified in the discovery/v1/README.md file, subject to discussion with PLH and W3C webmaster.
14:41:08 <luca_barbato> topic: PR
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14:42:22 <luca_barbato> mm: #514 is still open and in draft mode
14:42:29 <kaz> i/Proceed with/kaz: Given the proposed URIs and redirections are getting more and more complicated, probably it would be better to consult with the Webmaster and PLH right now before publication. Maybe they would suggest we shift the new possible simpler structure for WoT 1.0 REC publication already rather than 2.0./
14:42:32 <luca_barbato> topic: Use Cases
14:42:44 <kaz> i/Given/scribenick: kaz/
14:42:55 <kaz> i/Any obj/scribenick: luca_barbato/
14:43:45 <kaz> s/topic: PR/topic: PR 514/
14:44:02 <kaz> i|#514|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/514 PR 514 - Initial survey of other discovery mechanisms|
14:45:18 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/231
14:45:36 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/231|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/231 wot-usecases PR 231 - Capture Discovery Requirements|
14:45:57 <luca_barbato> mm: The use-case PR is still ongoing
14:46:13 <luca_barbato> mm: The next discovery call we can review and cross-reference to it
14:49:50 <luca_barbato> mm: The PR will try to merge in a single section the current two sections currently present in the use-case document
14:49:51 <luca_barbato> topic: Issues
14:50:13 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:50:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:50:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:50:34 <kaz> chair: McCool
14:50:54 <kaz> i/They should be/scribenick: luca_barbato/
14:50:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:50:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:52:14 <luca_barbato> q+
14:52:25 <kaz> ack k
14:52:49 <kaz> s/Issue/Issue 510/
14:52:59 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/510 Issue 510 - Update Requirements
14:57:44 <kaz> q+
15:00:25 <luca_barbato> ac: We have a use-case for non-thing devices that can have a separate discovery process
15:01:22 <luca_barbato> mm: <adds Andrea's proposa in issue  #510>
15:01:44 <luca_barbato> kaz: I also think Andrea's idea is interesting
15:02:03 <luca_barbato> ..., but we need to redefine the use-case before putting it in requirements
15:02:55 <kaz> s/...,/.../
15:03:25 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:03:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:03:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
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