IRC log of ixml on 2023-10-17
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- Meeting: ixml Group Teleconference
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- Date: 17 Oct 2023
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- Chair: Steven
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- Scribe: cmsmcq
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0002.html
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- Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/10/03-ixml-minutes
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- Topic: Previous actions
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- MSM has done the easy ones.
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- NTW has done 10-03c but 10-03a continues.
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- SP has come up to the point of clicking the button to submit the pull request, but has not yet overcome resistance from github.
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- Topic: status of implementations
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- NTW reports that his implementation now once again passes all tests.
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- SP: nothing to report.
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- Topic: Publication plans
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- NTW still kicking the can down the road.
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- Topic: Revision to agenda
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- NTW asks to add issue #201 to the agenda.
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- Topic: Pull request #201
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- NTW: the draft which we made the current working draft next week had SP's change markup.
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- Pull request #201 eliminates that markup, to avoid confusing readers.
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- Permission to merge granted. Merged.
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- Topic: Issue #198 Check that browsable test suite is being updated when tests are added
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- Continues.
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- Topic: Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs
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- MSM requests more documentation of the design choices.
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- SP recalls that we agreed to provide the original grammar and also a grammar that shows the structure.
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- We agreed to provide both, so people could use either, whichever they need.
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- ACTION: SP to document the grammar to make clearer why you might want it / need it.
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- (This won't happen before Declarative Amsterdam and SP's Denmark trip, so mid-November.)
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- Topic: Description of EBNF to BNF translation
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- Waiting on MSM.
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- Topic: Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars
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- Waiting on MSM and NTW.
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- Topic: Issue #13
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- This has been merged and the issue should be closed.
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- NTW closes #13.
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- Topic: Issue #203 Spec should say explicitly that nonterminals are case-sensitive
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- ACTION: SP to draft proposed addition to 3.3 saying that nonterminals are case-sensitive.
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- Do we want to add section numbers? Discussion, feelings on both sides.
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- ACTION: NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS.
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- ACTION: SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section it heads.
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- Topic: Issue #202 Version of Unicode supported should be implementation-defined
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- Discussion. Do we want to specify a floor version?
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- SP points out that the spec has a normative reference to Unicode 13, with no 'or later' mentioned anywhere.
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- NTW: it's going to be hard to support any version of Unicode other than what our libraries support.
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- MSM: are all of our libraries in fact up to version 13?
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- SP: we could write a test to detect that.
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- ACTION: SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode supported.
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- ACTION: MSM to find the tests which currently provide different results based on version of Unicode supported, and send SP a pointer to them.
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- Topic: Issue #199 Require whitespace between prolog and first rule?
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- Awaiting solution of SP's battle with Github.
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- Topic: Issue #192 Normalizing line endings in ixml inputs
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- ACTION: NTW to develop proposal for #192 with a menu of choices
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- Topic: Next meeting
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- SP will be available on 31 October and 14 November, so we don't need to cancel those.
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- Next meeting is 31 October.
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- Present: Steven, Norm, Bethan, Michael
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- Regrets: John
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