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12:47:34 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:47:35 <janina> Meeting: APA Teleconference
12:47:35 <janina> Date: 27 Sep 2023
12:47:38 <janina> Chair:  Janina
12:47:38 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:47:38 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2023 Followup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
12:47:38 <janina> agenda+ Epub Note Special Request https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/epub33/a11y-exemption/
12:47:41 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
12:47:44 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
12:47:47 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
12:47:50 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
12:47:52 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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12:47:55 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
12:47:58 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
12:48:00 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
12:48:02 <janina> agenda+ be done
12:50:55 <janina>  /join #rqtf
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13:29:21 <janina> agenda?
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14:03:50 <Irfan> zakim, who is victim?
14:03:52 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Irfan.
14:03:57 <Irfan> zakim, pick a victim
14:03:57 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose janina
14:04:04 <gpellegrino> scribe+
14:04:20 <Irfan> zakim, next item
14:04:21 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:04:21 <janina> zakim, next item
14:04:21 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, janina
14:04:50 <gpellegrino> janina: we have an agenda for today
14:05:04 <gpellegrino> ... we have an urgent issue from publishing group
14:05:14 <gpellegrino> ... any announcement to share?
14:05:37 <gpellegrino> ... Matthew will not partecipate to the call, he's busy
14:05:55 <janina> zakim, next item
14:05:55 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2023 Followup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from janina]
14:06:18 <gpellegrino> janina: the outcomes were great
14:06:33 <gpellegrino> ... to much to talk about in only one session
14:06:55 <gpellegrino> ... the URI of the agenda is the same we used at TPAC, so you can check that page
14:07:35 <gpellegrino> ... TPAC was great, all meetings were very productive
14:08:25 <gpellegrino> ... some groups were not sure about creating a repository for symbols for WAI-Adaptive
14:08:27 <janina> zakim, next item
14:08:27 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Epub Note Special Request https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/epub33/a11y-exemption/ -- taken up [from janina]
14:08:31 <gpellegrino> ... instead of using unicode
14:08:53 <gpellegrino> janina: we had a request for Publishing Maintenance Group
14:09:23 <gpellegrino> ... there is a law in EU that provides an exception for publishers for producing accessible publications
14:09:34 <gpellegrino> ... we can't modify a lot, since it is the law
14:10:22 <gpellegrino> Matt: yes, there are three exceptions (micro-enterprise, disporpotionated burden, fundamental alteration)
14:10:52 <gpellegrino> ... these metadata are already available in ONIX standard, we would link to sync EPUB metadata with the supply chain standard
14:12:26 <gpellegrino> ... this metadata we'll be used for displaying metadata to endusers and to have statistics
14:13:12 <gpellegrino> gpellegrino: yes, it was requests by the Federation of European Publishers to have data after the European Accessibility Act will take in place
14:13:57 <gpellegrino> ... so they can have numbers of publications that are not accessible, to maybe ask for public funding to fix those
14:14:00 <gpellegrino> janina: is there any question?
14:14:18 <gpellegrino> ... is there any objection to approve the publication to the document?
14:14:34 <janina> scribe+
14:15:13 <janina> RESOLUTION: APA approves and supports the Epub Note on accessibility metadata and does not object to the Note's publication.
14:15:20 <Roy> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:15:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/27-apa-minutes.html Roy
14:15:47 <niklasegger> scribe+
14:15:57 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:15:57 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
14:16:15 <Roy> subtopic: WebApps WG 2023 Rechartering
14:16:15 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/webappswg/charter/draft-charter-2023.html
14:16:15 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/383
14:16:52 <niklasegger> Roy: I don't think there are any big chances to last time
14:17:33 <niklasegger> janina: I think we can it sign off (no objection from the group)
14:17:36 <Roy> subtopic: Device and Sensors WG 2023 Rechartering
14:17:37 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/das-charter/das-wg-charter.html
14:17:37 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/429
14:18:13 <niklasegger> janina: This is a interesting one, due to the haptics group from China
14:20:03 <niklasegger> janina: I think we should aks for a updated spec, that supports more precision (like we saw in the TPAC meeting)
14:20:04 <Roy> "An API allowing web applications to interface with haptic actuators, such as vibration motors found on gamepad controllers, and potentially other devices that provide haptic feedback."
14:20:54 <Roy> Tencent
14:22:06 <niklasegger> janina: At least we would like to know, if more precision in the haptics spec is possible.
14:22:33 <niklasegger> janina: Action on me to write them an email
14:23:07 <Roy> subtopic: Accessibility EOWG re-charter
14:23:07 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2023/eowg-charter-2023.html
14:23:07 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/428
14:23:32 <niklasegger> Roy: Do we have any request for them?
14:24:01 <niklasegger> janina: I propose we should take a week to look at it. Talk about it next week
14:24:15 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:24:15 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
14:24:56 <niklasegger> Roy: Nothing new there, but still remaining ones
14:25:00 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:25:00 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:25:02 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:25:02 <Zakim> 6. Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from janina]
14:25:22 <Roy> zakim, next item
14:25:22 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:25:24 <Roy> subtopic: W3C Securing Verifiable Credentials using JOSE and COSE
14:25:24 <Roy> -   issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/68
14:26:09 <niklasegger> Roy: They want us to review this document until october
14:26:34 <niklasegger> Roy: However, Lionel is not here, who did it last time
14:26:50 <niklasegger> Roy: Said no special date, but probably until end of october
14:26:56 <niklasegger> janina: Will talk to Lionel
14:26:59 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:26:59 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:07 <Roy> subtopic: CSS Transitions Level 2
14:27:07 <Roy> - tracker: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Transitions_Level_2
14:27:07 <Roy> - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-transitions-2/
14:28:22 <niklasegger> PaulG: The transition stuff has not been an issue for a11y, but didn't look at this spec specifily.Will take a look
14:28:35 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:28:35 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
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14:29:32 <niklasegger> janina: Matthew and I were really impressed with the CSS meeting, and they were impressed by you Paul
14:31:26 <niklasegger> PaulG: I reviewed the issues ahead of time, but nothing jumped out. With Scott O'hara being part with some suggestions we are in good hands
14:32:06 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:32:06 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:32:27 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:32:28 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:32:28 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:32:28 <Zakim> 10. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
14:33:54 <niklasegger> janina: Wonderful meeting with web security about well known uri. We propose several uri that have bubbled up from coga. Matthew voluntered to be the main author
14:38:44 <niklasegger> janina: Other TPAC results: We are going to continue work on User cases (Web of things)
14:39:51 <niklasegger> janina: ... new github issues filed for COGA and RQTF. We will publish a new working draft until the end of the year
14:44:02 <niklasegger> PaulG: Update from pronunciation: We were going to beef up our use cases. We need to better convey the use cases. Allowing AT to deligate to the user agent (browser) to use the speech api -> might help to convice some browser vendors, right now they/ some don't see the benefits
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14:46:20 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:46:20 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:46:32 <Irfan> rrsagent, make minutes
14:46:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/27-apa-minutes.html Irfan
14:46:48 <Irfan> zakim, close this item
14:46:48 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
14:46:48 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:46:49 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:46:49 <Zakim> 11. Other Business [from janina]
14:46:49 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, niklasegger
14:47:07 <Irfan> zakim, close this item
14:47:08 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, Irfan
14:47:18 <Irfan> zakim, take up item 11
14:47:19 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:47:34 <Irfan> zakim, close this item
14:47:34 <Zakim> agendum 11 closed
14:47:36 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:47:36 <Zakim> 12. be done [from janina]
14:47:42 <Irfan> zakim, next item
14:47:42 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:47:49 <Irfan> zakim, close this item
14:47:49 <Zakim> agendum 12 closed
14:47:50 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
14:48:00 <Irfan> rrsagent, make minutes
14:48:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/27-apa-minutes.html Irfan
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