IRC log of wot-script on 2023-09-25

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11:04:16 [kaz]

present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima

11:04:36 [dape]

scribe: dape

11:05:01 [dape]

TOPIC: Previous minutes

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-> Sept 18 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/18-wot-script-minutes.html

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CA: Minutes look good. Names need to be fixed

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... no objections -> minutes are approved

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TOPIC: Publication check

11:07:23 [kaz]

q+

11:07:24 [dape]

CA: Still waiting...

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Kaz: I am working on it

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... maybe publish it today or tomorrow

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... will ping webmaster as well

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TOPIC: Scripting API report

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CA: Briefly talked about it in main call

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... other pressing issues in main call

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... we might need to ping again

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... not sure "when" to do it or "where" to do it

11:09:44 [kaz]

q+

11:10:07 [dape]

DP: Yes, we might need to wait a bit

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Kaz: General report during main call makes sense

11:10:44 [dape]

... this week we will have policy discussions in main call.. and might take longer

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... suggest to make report in 2 weeks or so

11:10:55 [kaz]

agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#September_25.2C_2023

11:11:13 [dape]

CA: Yes, let's put topic on hold for now

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SUBTOPIC: What's next

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CA: Start reviewing use-cases...

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... looking into missing features

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... I guess we might need to wait for re-chartering

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q+

11:12:07 [kaz]

ack k

11:12:09 [dape]

ack kaz

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ack dape

11:13:33 [dape]

DP: In the meanwhile we can look into existing issues

11:14:32 [dape]

CA: I checked some issues as well..

11:14:59 [dape]

...some are not about use-cases.. just technical improvements

11:15:14 [dape]

... Zoltan had also some improvements in mind

11:15:24 [cris_]

q?

11:15:27 [dape]

... labeling and such is very welcome

11:15:30 [kaz]

i|I checked|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues wot-scripting-api issues|

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TOPIC: PRs

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SUBTOPIC: Better types for Scripting API P R489

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/489

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CA: I tried to improve typing for scripting API

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... helps to get better (more precise) errors

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... for example the name of properties is checked

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... helps to avoid typos

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... this is the goal of the PR

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... I ask you to review it

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DP: Nix work.. will take a look

11:18:07 [kaz]

present+ Jan_Romann

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rrsagent, make log public

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/25-wot-script-minutes.html kaz

11:18:28 [dape]

s/Nix/Nice

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JR: Promising work

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... is the union of string needed?

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CA: Tricky

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.. if "T" is any.. keyof causes issues

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JR: Union does not prevent auto completion, right?

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CA: It should work just fine

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JR: Great

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q?

11:20:47 [cris_]

q?

11:21:08 [dape]

CA: Will discuss this PR again next week....

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TOPIC: Discovery

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JR: Updated PR in node-wot w.r.t. discovery

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... might be 2 things worth discussing

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... wondering about explore function..

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... and general discover method

11:22:38 [cris_]

node-wot PR -> https://github.com/eclipse-thingweb/node-wot/pull/864

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JR: direct method is a left over

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... I implemented requestThingDescription ... works quite well

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... a more general question I had was about exploreDirectory

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... ulr pointing to TD

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... should we consume TD ?

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s/ulr/url

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CA: I suggest to start experimenting with it

11:25:03 [kaz]

q+

11:25:51 [JKRhb]

q+

11:25:58 [dape]

Kaz: Wondering about relationship between PR in node-wot and Scripting API?

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ack k

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CA: We are exploring discovery API

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s/between PR/between this Pullrequest 864/

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... impact for Scripting API

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s/in node-wot/on the node-wot repository/

11:27:18 [dape]

JR: If general tests work we can align the API

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CA: Concrete implementations can help

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Kaz: Shall we talk about it in Discovery calls as well?

11:28:25 [dape]

CA: Maybe, but we are not there yet

11:28:59 [kaz]

s/Scripting API?/W3C WoT specifications. Which WoT spec is related to this Pullrequest, WoT Scripting API, WoT Discovery or WoT Thing Description?/

11:29:20 [dape]

JR: second question

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... about general discover function

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... in implementations how to specify which kind of discovery should happen?

11:30:16 [kaz]

i/Second/Kaz: So this is a trial implementation to see what kind of API definition would be the best, and proposal for the WoT Discovery spec should be also made after settling the discussion./

11:30:23 [kaz]

i/So this/scribenick: kaz/

11:30:27 [dape]

... multiple protocols supported but how to limit discovery to CoAP only?

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i/second question/scribenick: dape/

11:30:38 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:30:39 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/25-wot-script-minutes.html kaz

11:30:45 [dape]

... I was wondering about 2nd argument

11:30:57 [kaz]

chair: Cristiano/Daniel

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11:31:05 [dape]

CA: I think this goes on with new feature discussion

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... we might need use-cases

11:31:45 [kaz]

i/second question/Kaz: So this is a trial implementation to see what kind of API definition would be the best, and proposal for the WoT Discovery spec should be also made after settling the discussion./

11:31:47 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

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i/So this/scribenick: kaz/

11:32:02 [kaz]

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i/second question/scribenick: dape/

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11:32:40 [dape]

JR: ThingFilter no longer contains URL anymore ...

11:33:14 [dape]

CA: Would be nice to have some backtracking what is needed

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CA: AOB ?

11:33:32 [cris_]

q?

11:33:42 [JKRhb]

ack j

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-> none -> [adjourned ]

11:34:09 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

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