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14:56:59 <dbooth> Meeting: FHIR RDF
14:57:04 <dbooth> Chair: David Booth
15:08:51 <dbooth> Topic:  ElementDefinition summary flags #133
15:08:59 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/133
15:11:33 <dbooth> tim: Summary info is for searching for data and not wanting to provide everything.
15:11:49 <dbooth> .. Not in the RDF ont right now, but it's in the element definition.  Should it be in the ont?
15:12:41 <dbooth> eric: ShEx schema has a def for StructureDefinition, which means that any StructureDef (in principle) has an RDF representation.  We exlude all the metadata when we're building ont.
15:13:05 <dbooth> .. I.e., we din't put much in there -- not the metadata.
15:13:24 <dbooth> .. We could, or we could write a script that emits the StructureDefs, to have access to everything in them.
15:13:39 <dbooth> tim: It's actually ElementDefinition
15:15:27 <dbooth> eric: Could emit it as an RDF representation of the ElementDef, as an instance of it, e.g., for Patient
15:17:20 <dbooth> structure def for all resources: https://www.hl7.org/fhir/structuredefinition-examples.html
15:17:52 <dbooth> https://www.hl7.org/fhir/patient.profile.json.html
15:19:01 <dbooth> eric: If this were dumped out as RDF, you'd have the info you need.
15:19:12 <dbooth> ... But you'd need to do som estring manipulation.
15:20:25 <dbooth> ... Adding a fhir:link would help, but it would have to point back to the shex, because in some resources it will have isSummary true and in some it will be false.
15:22:40 <dbooth> eric: COuld add it to the fhir ont.
15:22:43 <dbooth> https://www.hl7.org/fhir/elementdefinition.html
15:24:12 <dbooth> eric: Need to talk about the use of "identifier" in the context of the patient resource.
15:36:54 <dbooth> dbooth: Add this meta data to a separate ont file?
15:37:08 <dbooth> eric: It could require the regular fhir ont.
15:40:16 <dbooth> eric: We already have shapes for structure defs.  Could have patient.resource.ttl, having some element defs w a string w patient.identifier, and you'd have to know that that is the same as patient.identifier in your resource.
15:40:57 <dbooth> ... Will you perform those string operations anyway?  if not, and we put in a fhir:link pointing back to the ont, and instead of using bnodes for the property constraints, we could have named nodes.
15:41:20 <dbooth> ... Could also point at the shex and use shapepath to identify the spot in shex.
15:41:46 <dbooth> ... Other possibility would be do string manip.
15:42:40 <dbooth> tim: Fine w the strcutre def approach, as long as there is something tying it to class patient, that should be enough, if we have the RDF structure def of patient.
15:43:53 <dbooth> ACTION: Tim to come up w concrete proposal
15:44:19 <dbooth> Topic: HL7 working group mtgs
15:44:48 <dbooth> https://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf-2023-sep
15:54:39 <dbooth> dbooth: Some jira tickets marked as reverted, "reconsider for R6".
15:55:24 <dbooth> rob: Need to redisposition it, as completed, currently in R5, mark as preapplied, and ask ITS to approve it.
16:00:52 <dbooth> ACTION: DBooth to ask Paul Knapp about zoom
16:01:33 <dbooth> topic: Playground
16:02:43 <dbooth> houcemeddine: Need the variable for turtle.
16:03:26 <dbooth> ... Also, getting 404 for claim URL.
16:04:08 <dbooth> ... Wrong URL: http://hl7.org/fhir/shape/Claim
16:04:22 <dbooth> ... Right URL: https://build.fhir.org/claim.shex
16:05:09 <dbooth> rob: Also those URLs are not going to the same release.  One is the CI build; the other is the official release.
16:05:56 <dbooth> eric: FHIR use case conventions, but the resource system doeesn't.
16:06:18 <dbooth> ... Capital letter things like Observation ...
16:07:15 <dbooth> houcemeddine: If you lowercase the name, then the file is there.
16:07:35 <dbooth> eric: Maybe it's just the way deepak is generating them.
16:08:38 <dbooth> eric: It's a very flat hierarchy.  Might be easier to get case sensitive URLs in a subdirectory.
16:09:38 <dbooth> houcemeddine: Also another problem in converting JSON to Turtle.  Fails for medication in R5.
16:11:31 <dbooth> eric: There was a skew between the schema and the data.
16:12:03 <dbooth> ... Probably need to get the newest examples.
16:14:29 <dbooth> ADJOURNED
16:16:42 <dbooth> Present: Avanti Paturkar, Allen Flynn, Rob Hausam, James Champion, David Booth, Tim Prudhomme, Jim Balhoff, Gaurav Faidya, EricP
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