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11:03:08 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
11:03:21 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Cristiano_Aguzzi
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11:08:02 <kaz> chair: Daniel
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11:09:01 <kaz> present+ Zoltan_Kis
11:09:02 <zkis> scribe:zkis
11:09:54 <zkis> DP: meeting will be about TPAC
11:09:54 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:10:04 <zkis> present+ Zoltan_Kis
11:10:15 <zkis> Topic: previous minutes
11:10:26 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/24-wot-script-minutes.html July-24
11:10:26 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/24-wot-script-minutes.html ->24 July 2023
11:10:44 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:10:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:10:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/04-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:11:21 <zkis> DP: concerns can be handled directly with Kaz, so past minutes are approved fast.
11:11:26 <zkis> DP: minutes approved.
11:11:32 <zkis> Topic: quick updates
11:11:41 <kaz> s|-> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/24-wot-script-minutes.html ->24 July 2023||
11:11:54 <zkis> Subtopic: publication process
11:12:08 <zkis> DP: in June we made the request to publish the Scripting API Note
11:12:10 <kaz> q+
11:12:46 <zkis> KA: after holidays will work on it, during this week
11:12:59 <zkis> ... structure is different than other drafts
11:13:20 <zkis> ... will make a static HTML version, to be stored
11:13:23 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/tree/main/releases/note2 release area
11:13:37 <zkis> DP: it's almost there, and it should be fine.
11:13:56 <zkis> DP: we might need some minor edits, but hopefully could publish this week
11:14:01 <zkis> q+
11:14:07 <zkis> ack kaz
11:16:02 <zkis> ZK: got some feedback on modern web spec idioms, so will probably update the Scripting spec as well after TPAC, with only stylistic changes
11:16:58 <zkis> See for instance https://webmachinelearning.github.io/webnn/
11:17:10 <zkis> DP: OK, this is welcome, after the publication
11:17:16 <zkis> Topic: TPAC planning
11:17:25 <zkis> DP: the schedule is almost full
11:17:37 <zkis> ... probably no dedicated slot for Scripting
11:17:54 <zkis> ... we could address Scripting related issues in other task forces
11:18:07 <zkis> ... that would be on Thursday and Friday
11:18:15 <cris_> q+
11:18:20 <kaz> i|the schedule is|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda#TPAC_Agenda TPAC WoT agenda|
11:19:06 <zkis> ack zk
11:19:08 <dape> ... https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda
11:19:31 <kaz> q+
11:19:41 <kaz> ack c
11:20:00 <zkis> CA: will also be attending during the whole week on TPAC
11:20:38 <zkis> ... will attend the Devices and Sensors WG meetings
11:21:00 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda#Presence Presence
11:22:23 <kaz> kaz: the presence list should be updated
11:22:29 <zkis> KA: please update the wiki page with attendance information
11:22:36 <kaz> s/kaz: the presence list should be updated//
11:22:52 <kaz> ack k
11:23:16 <kaz> q+
11:23:25 <zkis> q+
11:23:59 <zkis> KA: the WoT group will finalize the agenda on the group call on Wed, and we could still ask a slot for Scripting
11:24:12 <zkis> ack kaz
11:24:41 <zkis> KA: there will be also joint discussions
11:25:31 <zkis> ack zk
11:25:56 <zkis> ZK: we need to track dependencies like Discovery, TD TF, and make github issues
11:26:09 <zkis> DP: yes, we should have those
11:26:23 <zkis> DP: the topic of Actions needs discussing
11:26:26 <kaz> s/joint discussions/joint discussions during TPAC, and we can organize additional joint meetings after TPAC as well./
11:26:48 <kaz> q+
11:27:29 <zkis> CA: credentials is also a topic (related to Discovery)
11:27:29 <kaz> s/discussing/discussion/
11:28:47 <zkis> ZK: I think it would be good to have a slot to give update, and what's next, in relation to dependencies
11:29:05 <zkis> DP: OK, made notes and will bring it up on the WG call.
11:29:16 <zkis> ... the problem is I will be missing on Friday
11:29:27 <zkis> ... maybe Cristiano can help?
11:29:51 <zkis> ... but let's see how the schedule will be decided on the WG call
11:30:44 <dape> q?
11:30:55 <zkis> ack kaz
11:32:31 <zkis> KA: given the timing (we are starting a new charter), we should discuss technical topics for this. So if Scripting has no urgent topics, we should concentrate on how the dependencies on other specs will be handled.
11:32:58 <zkis> DP: if organizational issues have priority, we can discuss later than on TPAC on some of the WG calls.
11:33:17 <cris_> q+
11:33:20 <kaz> q+
11:33:40 <zkis> ack cr
11:34:16 <zkis> CA: it's fine to prioritize organization, but we could discuss dependencies on other task forces. We might not need a dedicated slot for that.
11:34:39 <zkis> ... We could also discuss during the related task force discussions.
11:34:53 <zkis> ... It's also fine to move the discussions after the TPAC.
11:35:38 <zkis> ack kaz
11:36:13 <zkis> KA: I will suggest to the other task forces as well that we should focus mainly on the refactoring and organization of the work.
11:36:59 <zkis> ... We might not reach resolution during TPAC, but we should try.
11:37:11 <kaz> s/I will suggest/I've been suggesting/
11:37:26 <zkis> DP: any other topics?
11:37:46 <kaz> s/should try/should raise issues from our viewpoint/
11:37:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:37:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/04-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:38:38 <zkis> DP: we can stop here and continue on the WG call on Wednesday and later.
11:38:47 <zkis> DP: adjourned
11:39:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:39:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/04-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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