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– DRAFT –
RDF-star Working Group Weekly Meeting

24 August 2023

Attendees

Present
AndyS, AZ, Dominik_T, gkellogg, gtw, ktk, niklasl, olaf, pchampin, richard-lea, rubensworks, Souri, TallTed
Regrets
Ora, Tpt
Chair
ktk
Scribe
AndyS, pchampin

Meeting minutes

RDF-star WG weekly meeting

<ktk> Title: RDF-star WG weekly meeting

New attendee! Amin Anjomshoaa

Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy)

<TallTed> done that

Approval of last week's minutes: 1

<ktk> Last weeks minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html

<ktk> PROPOSAL: Approve last week's minutes

<gkellogg> +1

<TallTed> +1

<ktk> +1

<Dominik_T> +0 (I wasn't present)

<pchampin> +0

<Amin> +1

+1

<rubensworks> +1

<olaf> +1

<niklasl> +1

<gtw> +1

RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes

Review of open actions, available at 2

pchampin: issue 81 done
… issue 80 done
… issue 74 - key has reviewed (?)

gh close #80

<gb> Issue 80 [not found]

<pchampin> gh, status

gh close rdf-star/#81

<gb> #81

gh close https://github.com/rdf-star/issues/81

<gkellogg> gh close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81

<gb> Action 81 ensure PRs on rdf-tests appear on the RDF-star dashboard (on pchampin)

<TallTed> gh close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81

<TallTed> gb close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81

<TallTed> gb, close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81

<gb> TallTed, sorry, I don't understand what you want me to do. Maybe try "help"?

gb help

<TallTed> gb, help

<gb> TallTed, I am a bot to look up and create GitHub issues and

<gb> … action items. I am an instance of GHURLBot 0.3.

<gb> … Try "gb, help commands" or

<gb> … see https://w3c.github.io/GHURLBot/manual.html

gkellogg: there are 4 rdf-tests PRs, one is appearing on the dashboard

pchampin: will need to add old ones manually

<pchampin> gb, status

<gb> pchampin, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and the repositories are w3c/rdf-common w3c/rdf-concepts w3c/rdf-n-quads w3c/rdf-n-triples w3c/rdf-new w3c/rdf-primer

<gb>w3c/rdf-schema w3c/rdf-semantics w3c/rdf-star-wg w3c/rdf-trig w3c/rdf-turtle w3c/rdf-ucr w3c/rdf-xml w3c/sparql-concepts

<gb>w3c/sparql-entailment w3c/sparql-federated-query w3c/sparql-graph-store-protocol w3c/sparql-new w3c/sparql-protocol w3c/sparql-query w3c/sparql-results-csv-tsv

<gb>w3c/sparql-results-json

<ktk> gb close rdf-star-wg/#81

<gb> #81

<AZ> I haven't anything to report on issue #19 but even if I did, I would not be able to say it to you because I can't get my mic to work

<gb> Issue 19 [not found]

ktk: looking at "work with antoine and others to come up with a proposal for weak and strong compliance"

<AZ> However, I will have something to feed in the discussion soon

pchampin: paused issues - these are notes to the future

gkellogg: Still issues with old specs will ref the right place. e.g. RDF 1.0 MT
… RDF 1.1 MT does not exist
… same for n-triples, n-quads where the short name has changed.

gkellog: needs systeam to fix existing docs.

TallTed: I suggest open issue on rdf-star-wg to track

gkellogg: will create the issue

TallTed: does not seem to track last updated which would help triage.

gkellogg: I looked into this - there is a long term issue on github itself (4 years old) - outside WG and W3C control.
… this is ordering by date.

Review of pull requests, available at 3

ktk: were the PRs fromlast week closed?
… anything to discuss?

<gkellogg_> w3c/rdf-concepts#48

<gb> Pull Request 48 Add base direction as a fourth element of literals. (by gkellogg) [i18n-tracker] [needs discussion] [spec:substantive]

<gkellogg_> w3c/rdf-concepts#59

<gb> Pull Request 59 Improve Unicode terminology and term references. (by gkellogg) [spec:substantive]

gkellogg_: change - literals can not include unicode surrogrates
… I have added text to exclude that. It was in the grammar but not concepts.

ktk: "Adds BNF and text to extend LANGTAG to support base direction"

gkellogg_: open for a while. Ora was going to reach out to i18n.
… I suggest a session at TPAC.

<pchampin> +1 to invite i18n people at our TPAC meeting

ktk: Ora did contact them.

gkellogg: rdf-tests - this is a bug fix.
… the new "assumed base"

<gkellogg_> w3c/rdf-tests#105

gkellogg: also there are PRs for rdf-tests/105 - symbolic link fix ups.
… I have announced it publicly
… this is a pre-integration PR

gkellogg: Please look at PRs for N-Quads and N-tripels about unicode codepoints
… I'm waiting on these first two before moving onto the other three.

Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting

gkellogg_: I added a "needs discussion" tag on the github project.

<TallTed> We need another standing agenda item for Issue Triage -- https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/5

ktk: Will update the standard template for the agenda.

TallTed: no assignments on issues

AndyS: is there a list of all the issues there are?

TallTed: I believe so

AndyS: we create many issue mostly to record things, so they don't get lost

ktk: will discuss this with Ora and pchampin

niklasl: The calendar says the SEM task force is cancelled.

<AZ> goodbye!

ktk: Next week, Ora will chair

<ktk> thanks everyone

Summary of resolutions

  1. Approve last week's minutes
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/big/bug/

Maybe present: gkellog, gkellogg_

All speakers: AndyS, gkellog, gkellogg, gkellogg_, ktk, niklasl, pchampin, TallTed

Active on IRC: Amin, AndyS, AZ, Dominik_T, gkellogg, gkellogg_, gtw, ktk, niklasl, olaf, pchampin, richard-lea, rubensworks, Souri, TallTed