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15:53:22 <ktk> Topic:  RDF-star WG weekly meeting
15:53:26 <ktk> Chair: ktk
15:53:31 <ktk> Regret+ Ora
15:53:36 <ktk> Regret+ Tpt
15:53:48 <ktk> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:53:55 <ktk> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:53:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
15:54:27 <ktk> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/931e4e54-81ad-4aa3-a39f-84efe4b788c7/20230824T120000/
15:54:27 <agendabot> clear agenda
15:54:27 <agendabot> agenda+ Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy)
15:54:27 <agendabot> agenda+ Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:54:27 <agendabot> agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3
15:54:28 <agendabot> agenda+ Review of pull requests, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4
15:54:31 <agendabot> agenda+ Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
15:55:57 <ktk> Title: RDF-star WG weekly meeting
15:56:06 <ktk> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:56:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
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16:00:16 <TallTed> present+
16:00:29 <gkellogg> present+
16:00:32 <gtw> present+
16:00:50 <pchampin> present+
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16:02:28 <AndyS> scribe: AndyS
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16:03:10 <TallTed> meeting: RDF-star Working Group Weekly Meeting
16:03:11 <AZ> present+
16:03:15 <AndyS> New attendee! Amin Anjomshoaa
16:03:51 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF-star 2023-08-24 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/931e4e54-81ad-4aa3-a39f-84efe4b788c7/20230824T120000/
16:04:07 <ktk> RRSAgent, first item
16:04:07 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'first item', ktk.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:04:09 <TallTed> Zakim, next agendum
16:04:09 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy) -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:21 <TallTed> done that
16:04:23 <TallTed> Zakim, next agendum
16:04:23 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, TallTed
16:04:28 <TallTed> Zakim, close item 1
16:04:28 <Zakim> agendum 1, Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy), closed
16:04:30 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:04:30 <Zakim> 2. Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html [from agendabot]
16:04:33 <TallTed> Zakim, next agendum
16:04:33 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:46 <ktk> Last weeks minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
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16:05:30 <ktk> PROPOSAL: Approve last week's minutes
16:05:33 <gkellogg> +1
16:05:36 <TallTed> +1
16:05:37 <ktk> +1
16:05:39 <Dominik_T> +0 (I wasn't present)
16:05:42 <pchampin> +0
16:05:46 <Amin> +1
16:05:48 <AndyS> +1
16:05:49 <rubensworks> +1
16:05:50 <olaf> +1
16:05:57 <niklasl> +1
16:06:10 <gtw> +1
16:06:17 <ktk> RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes
16:06:34 <ktk> Zakim, next agendum
16:06:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:06:35 <AndyS> zakim, next agendum
16:06:37 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, AndyS
16:07:35 <AndyS> pchampin: issue 81 done
16:07:53 <AndyS> ... issue 80 done
16:08:15 <AndyS> ... issue 74 - key has reviewed (?)
16:08:55 <AndyS> gh close #80
16:08:55 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/issues/80 -> Issue 80 [not found]
16:09:57 <pchampin> gh, status
16:10:01 <AndyS> gh close rdf-star/#81
16:10:01 <gb> https://github.com/rdf-star//issues/81 -> #81
16:10:26 <AndyS> gh close  https://github.com/rdf-star/issues/81
16:11:02 <gkellogg> gh close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81
16:11:02 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81 -> Action 81 ensure PRs on rdf-tests appear on the RDF-star dashboard (on pchampin)
16:11:19 <TallTed> gh close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
16:11:37 <TallTed> gb close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
16:12:07 <TallTed> gb, close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
16:12:07 <gb> TallTed, sorry, I don't understand what you want me to do. Maybe try "help"?
16:12:39 <AndyS> gb help
16:13:24 <TallTed> gb, help
16:13:24 <gb> TallTed, I am a bot to look up and create GitHub issues and
16:13:24 <gb> … action items. I am an instance of GHURLBot 0.3.
16:13:24 <gb> … Try "gb, help commands" or
16:13:24 <gb> … see https://w3c.github.io/GHURLBot/manual.html
16:13:30 <AndyS> gkellogg: there are 4 rdf-tests PRs, one is appearing on the dashboard
16:13:45 <AndyS> pchampin: will need to add old ones manually
16:14:09 <pchampin> gb, status
16:14:09 <gb> pchampin, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and the repositories are https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts https://github.com/w3c/rdf-n-quads https://github.com/w3c/rdf-n-triples https://github.com/w3c/rdf-new https://github.com/w3c/rdf-primer
16:14:09 <gb> … https://github.com/w3c/rdf-schema https://github.com/w3c/rdf-semantics https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg https://github.com/w3c/rdf-trig https://github.com/w3c/rdf-turtle https://github.com/w3c/rdf-ucr https://github.com/w3c/rdf-xml https://github.com/w3c/sparql-concepts
16:14:10 <gb> … https://github.com/w3c/sparql-entailment https://github.com/w3c/sparql-federated-query https://github.com/w3c/sparql-graph-store-protocol https://github.com/w3c/sparql-new https://github.com/w3c/sparql-protocol https://github.com/w3c/sparql-query https://github.com/w3c/sparql-results-csv-tsv
16:14:13 <gb> … https://github.com/w3c/sparql-results-json
16:15:02 <ktk> gb close rdf-star-wg/#81
16:15:03 <gb> https://github.com/rdf-star-wg//issues/81 -> #81
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16:15:27 <AZ> I haven't anything to report on issue #19 but even if I did, I would not be able to say it to you because I can't get my mic to work
16:15:37 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/issues/19 -> Issue 19 [not found]
16:15:55 <AndyS> ktk: looking at "work with antoine and others to come up with a proposal for weak and strong compliance"
16:16:01 <AZ> However, I will have something to feed in the discussion soon
16:16:59 <AndyS> pchampin: paused issues - these are notes to the future
16:17:52 <AndyS> gkellogg: Still issues with old specs will ref the right place. e.g. RDF 1.0 MT
16:18:15 <AndyS> ... RDF 1.1 MT does not exist
16:18:20 <TallTed> q+
16:18:36 <AndyS> ... same for n-triples, n-quads where the short name has changed.
16:18:42 <TallTed> q-
16:19:21 <AndyS> gkellog: needs systeam to fix existing docs.
16:19:52 <AndyS> TallTed: I suggest open issue on rdf-star-wg to track
16:20:08 <AndyS> gkellogg: will create the issue
16:20:32 <gkellogg_> q+
16:20:52 <AndyS> TallTed: does not seem to track last updated which would help triage.
16:21:41 <ktk> ack gkellogg_
16:21:41 <gkellogg_> ack me
16:21:43 <AndyS> gkellogg: I looked into this - there is a long term issue on github itself (4 years old) - outside WG and W3C control.
16:22:26 <AndyS> ... this is ordering by date.
16:22:52 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:22:52 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Review of pull requests, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:23:21 <AndyS> ktk: were the PRs fromlast week closed?
16:23:36 <AndyS> ... anything to discuss?
16:23:39 <gkellogg_> w3c/rdf-concepts#48
16:23:40 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/48 -> Pull Request 48 Add base direction as a fourth element of literals. (by gkellogg) [i18n-tracker] [needs discussion] [spec:substantive]
16:24:00 <gkellogg_> w3c/rdf-concepts#59
16:24:00 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/59 -> Pull Request 59 Improve Unicode terminology and term references. (by gkellogg) [spec:substantive]
16:24:36 <AndyS> gkellogg_: change - literals can not include unicode surrogrates
16:25:31 <AndyS> ... I have added text to exclude that. It was in the grammar but not concepts.
16:27:14 <AndyS> ktk: "Adds BNF and text to extend LANGTAG to support base direction"
16:27:56 <AndyS> gkellogg_: open for a while.  Ora was going to reach out to i18n.
16:28:06 <AndyS> ... I suggest a session at TPAC.
16:28:17 <pchampin> +1 to invite i18n people at our TPAC meeting
16:28:22 <AndyS> ktk: Ora did contact them.
16:29:24 <pchampin> q+
16:29:39 <AndyS> gkellogg: rdf-tests - this is a big fix.
16:29:46 <AndyS> s/big/bug/
16:29:58 <AndyS> ... the new "assumed base"
16:30:18 <gkellogg_> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/105
16:30:33 <AndyS> ... also there are PRs for rdf-tests/105 - symbolic link fix ups.
16:31:00 <AndyS> ... I have announced it publicly
16:31:30 <AndyS> ... this is a pre-integration PR
16:31:54 <ktk> q?
16:32:06 <ktk> ack pchampin
16:33:29 <AndyS> gkellogg: Please look at PRs for N-Quads and N-tripels about unicode codepoints
16:34:01 <AndyS> ... I'm waiting on these first two before moving onto the other three.
16:34:19 <ktk> RRSAgent, next item
16:34:19 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'next item', ktk.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:34:30 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:34:30 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:35:15 <AndyS> gkellogg_: I added a "needs discussion" tag on the github project.
16:36:11 <TallTed> We need another standing agenda item for Issue Triage -- https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/5
16:36:24 <AndyS> ktk: Will update the standard template for the agenda.
16:37:11 <AndyS> TallTed: no assignments on issues
16:37:28 <AndyS> q+
16:37:39 <pchampin> scribe+
16:37:50 <pchampin> AndyS: is there a list of all the issues there are?
16:37:57 <pchampin> TallTed: I believe so
16:38:26 <pchampin> AndyS: we create many issue mostly to record things, so they don't get lost
16:38:40 <ktk> ack AndyS
16:38:41 <pchampin> ktk: will discuss this with Ora and pchampin
16:38:47 <pchampin> scribe-
16:39:07 <niklasl> q+
16:39:49 <AndyS> niklasl: The calendar says the SEM task force is cancelled.
16:41:15 <AZ> goodbye!
16:41:16 <pchampin> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:41:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
16:41:23 <AndyS> ktk: Next week, Ora will chair
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16:41:32 <TallTed> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:42:45 <ktk> thanks everyone
16:45:23 <pchampin> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
16:45:36 <pchampin> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/31-rdf-star-minutes.html
16:45:40 <pchampin> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:45:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
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16:54:47 <ktk> RRSAgent, leave
16:54:47 <RRSAgent> I see no action items