IRC log of rdf-star on 2023-08-24

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15:53:22 [ktk]
Topic: RDF-star WG weekly meeting
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Chair: ktk
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Regret+ Ora
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Regret+ Tpt
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
15:54:27 [ktk]
Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/931e4e54-81ad-4aa3-a39f-84efe4b788c7/20230824T120000/
15:54:27 [agendabot]
clear agenda
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agenda+ Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy)
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agenda+ Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
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agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3
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agenda+ Review of pull requests, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4
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agenda+ Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
15:55:57 [ktk]
Title: RDF-star WG weekly meeting
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
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present+
16:00:29 [gkellogg]
present+
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present+
16:00:50 [pchampin]
present+
16:01:10 [niklasl]
present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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scribe: AndyS
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present+
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present+
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meeting: RDF-star Working Group Weekly Meeting
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present+
16:03:15 [AndyS]
New attendee! Amin Anjomshoaa
16:03:51 [TallTed]
TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF-star 2023-08-24 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/931e4e54-81ad-4aa3-a39f-84efe4b788c7/20230824T120000/
16:04:07 [ktk]
RRSAgent, first item
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'first item', ktk. Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:04:09 [TallTed]
Zakim, next agendum
16:04:09 [Zakim]
agendum 1 -- Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy) -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:21 [TallTed]
done that
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Zakim, next agendum
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agendum 1 was just opened, TallTed
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Zakim, close item 1
16:04:28 [Zakim]
agendum 1, Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy), closed
16:04:30 [Zakim]
I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:04:30 [Zakim]
2. Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html [from agendabot]
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Zakim, next agendum
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agendum 2 -- Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:46 [ktk]
Last weeks minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
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present+
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PROPOSAL: Approve last week's minutes
16:05:33 [gkellogg]
+1
16:05:36 [TallTed]
+1
16:05:37 [ktk]
+1
16:05:39 [Dominik_T]
+0 (I wasn't present)
16:05:42 [pchampin]
+0
16:05:46 [Amin]
+1
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+1
16:05:49 [rubensworks]
+1
16:05:50 [olaf]
+1
16:05:57 [niklasl]
+1
16:06:10 [gtw]
+1
16:06:17 [ktk]
RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes
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Zakim, next agendum
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agendum 3 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot]
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zakim, next agendum
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agendum 3 was just opened, AndyS
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pchampin: issue 81 done
16:07:53 [AndyS]
... issue 80 done
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... issue 74 - key has reviewed (?)
16:08:55 [AndyS]
gh close #80
16:08:55 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/issues/80 -> Issue 80 [not found]
16:09:57 [pchampin]
gh, status
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gh close rdf-star/#81
16:10:01 [gb]
https://github.com/rdf-star//issues/81 -> #81
16:10:26 [AndyS]
gh close https://github.com/rdf-star/issues/81
16:11:02 [gkellogg]
gh close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81
16:11:02 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81 -> Action 81 ensure PRs on rdf-tests appear on the RDF-star dashboard (on pchampin)
16:11:19 [TallTed]
gh close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
16:11:37 [TallTed]
gb close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
16:12:07 [TallTed]
gb, close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
16:12:07 [gb]
TallTed, sorry, I don't understand what you want me to do. Maybe try "help"?
16:12:39 [AndyS]
gb help
16:13:24 [TallTed]
gb, help
16:13:24 [gb]
TallTed, I am a bot to look up and create GitHub issues and
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… action items. I am an instance of GHURLBot 0.3.
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… Try "gb, help commands" or
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… see https://w3c.github.io/GHURLBot/manual.html
16:13:30 [AndyS]
gkellogg: there are 4 rdf-tests PRs, one is appearing on the dashboard
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pchampin: will need to add old ones manually
16:14:09 [pchampin]
gb, status
16:14:09 [gb]
pchampin, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and the repositories are https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts https://github.com/w3c/rdf-n-quads https://github.com/w3c/rdf-n-triples https://github.com/w3c/rdf-new https://github.com/w3c/rdf-primer
16:14:09 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-schema https://github.com/w3c/rdf-semantics https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg https://github.com/w3c/rdf-trig https://github.com/w3c/rdf-turtle https://github.com/w3c/rdf-ucr https://github.com/w3c/rdf-xml https://github.com/w3c/sparql-concepts
16:14:10 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/sparql-entailment https://github.com/w3c/sparql-federated-query https://github.com/w3c/sparql-graph-store-protocol https://github.com/w3c/sparql-new https://github.com/w3c/sparql-protocol https://github.com/w3c/sparql-query https://github.com/w3c/sparql-results-csv-tsv
16:14:13 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/sparql-results-json
16:15:02 [ktk]
gb close rdf-star-wg/#81
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https://github.com/rdf-star-wg//issues/81 -> #81
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present+
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16:15:27 [AZ]
I haven't anything to report on issue #19 but even if I did, I would not be able to say it to you because I can't get my mic to work
16:15:37 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/issues/19 -> Issue 19 [not found]
16:15:55 [AndyS]
ktk: looking at "work with antoine and others to come up with a proposal for weak and strong compliance"
16:16:01 [AZ]
However, I will have something to feed in the discussion soon
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pchampin: paused issues - these are notes to the future
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gkellogg: Still issues with old specs will ref the right place. e.g. RDF 1.0 MT
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... RDF 1.1 MT does not exist
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q+
16:18:36 [AndyS]
... same for n-triples, n-quads where the short name has changed.
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q-
16:19:21 [AndyS]
gkellog: needs systeam to fix existing docs.
16:19:52 [AndyS]
TallTed: I suggest open issue on rdf-star-wg to track
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gkellogg: will create the issue
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q+
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TallTed: does not seem to track last updated which would help triage.
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ack gkellogg_
16:21:41 [gkellogg_]
ack me
16:21:43 [AndyS]
gkellogg: I looked into this - there is a long term issue on github itself (4 years old) - outside WG and W3C control.
16:22:26 [AndyS]
... this is ordering by date.
16:22:52 [ktk]
Zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- Review of pull requests, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:23:21 [AndyS]
ktk: were the PRs fromlast week closed?
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... anything to discuss?
16:23:39 [gkellogg_]
w3c/rdf-concepts#48
16:23:40 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/48 -> Pull Request 48 Add base direction as a fourth element of literals. (by gkellogg) [i18n-tracker] [needs discussion] [spec:substantive]
16:24:00 [gkellogg_]
w3c/rdf-concepts#59
16:24:00 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/59 -> Pull Request 59 Improve Unicode terminology and term references. (by gkellogg) [spec:substantive]
16:24:36 [AndyS]
gkellogg_: change - literals can not include unicode surrogrates
16:25:31 [AndyS]
... I have added text to exclude that. It was in the grammar but not concepts.
16:27:14 [AndyS]
ktk: "Adds BNF and text to extend LANGTAG to support base direction"
16:27:56 [AndyS]
gkellogg_: open for a while. Ora was going to reach out to i18n.
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... I suggest a session at TPAC.
16:28:17 [pchampin]
+1 to invite i18n people at our TPAC meeting
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ktk: Ora did contact them.
16:29:24 [pchampin]
q+
16:29:39 [AndyS]
gkellogg: rdf-tests - this is a big fix.
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s/big/bug/
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... the new "assumed base"
16:30:18 [gkellogg_]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/105
16:30:33 [AndyS]
... also there are PRs for rdf-tests/105 - symbolic link fix ups.
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... I have announced it publicly
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... this is a pre-integration PR
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q?
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ack pchampin
16:33:29 [AndyS]
gkellogg: Please look at PRs for N-Quads and N-tripels about unicode codepoints
16:34:01 [AndyS]
... I'm waiting on these first two before moving onto the other three.
16:34:19 [ktk]
RRSAgent, next item
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'next item', ktk. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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Zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:35:15 [AndyS]
gkellogg_: I added a "needs discussion" tag on the github project.
16:36:11 [TallTed]
We need another standing agenda item for Issue Triage -- https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/5
16:36:24 [AndyS]
ktk: Will update the standard template for the agenda.
16:37:11 [AndyS]
TallTed: no assignments on issues
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q+
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scribe+
16:37:50 [pchampin]
AndyS: is there a list of all the issues there are?
16:37:57 [pchampin]
TallTed: I believe so
16:38:26 [pchampin]
AndyS: we create many issue mostly to record things, so they don't get lost
16:38:40 [ktk]
ack AndyS
16:38:41 [pchampin]
ktk: will discuss this with Ora and pchampin
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scribe-
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q+
16:39:49 [AndyS]
niklasl: The calendar says the SEM task force is cancelled.
16:41:15 [AZ]
goodbye!
16:41:16 [pchampin]
RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
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ktk: Next week, Ora will chair
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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thanks everyone
16:45:23 [pchampin]
previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
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next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/31-rdf-star-minutes.html
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
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RRSAgent, leave
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I see no action items