IRC log of rdf-star on 2023-08-24
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-irc
- 15:53:22 [ktk]
- Topic: RDF-star WG weekly meeting
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- Chair: ktk
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- Regret+ Ora
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- Regret+ Tpt
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
- 15:54:27 [ktk]
- Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/931e4e54-81ad-4aa3-a39f-84efe4b788c7/20230824T120000/
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- clear agenda
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- agenda+ Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy)
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- agenda+ Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
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- agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3
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- agenda+ Review of pull requests, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4
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- agenda+ Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
- 15:55:57 [ktk]
- Title: RDF-star WG weekly meeting
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
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- present+
- 16:00:29 [gkellogg]
- present+
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- present+
- 16:00:50 [pchampin]
- present+
- 16:01:10 [niklasl]
- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- scribe: AndyS
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- present+
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- present+
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- 16:03:10 [TallTed]
- meeting: RDF-star Working Group Weekly Meeting
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- present+
- 16:03:15 [AndyS]
- New attendee! Amin Anjomshoaa
- 16:03:51 [TallTed]
- TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF-star 2023-08-24 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/931e4e54-81ad-4aa3-a39f-84efe4b788c7/20230824T120000/
- 16:04:07 [ktk]
- RRSAgent, first item
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'first item', ktk. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 16:04:09 [TallTed]
- Zakim, next agendum
- 16:04:09 [Zakim]
- agendum 1 -- Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy) -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 16:04:21 [TallTed]
- done that
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- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 1 was just opened, TallTed
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- Zakim, close item 1
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- agendum 1, Scribe: Haudebourg, Timothée (alternate: Seaborne, Andy), closed
- 16:04:30 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 16:04:30 [Zakim]
- 2. Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html [from agendabot]
- 16:04:33 [TallTed]
- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 2 -- Approval of last week's minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 16:04:46 [ktk]
- Last weeks minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
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- present+
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- PROPOSAL: Approve last week's minutes
- 16:05:33 [gkellogg]
- +1
- 16:05:36 [TallTed]
- +1
- 16:05:37 [ktk]
- +1
- 16:05:39 [Dominik_T]
- +0 (I wasn't present)
- 16:05:42 [pchampin]
- +0
- 16:05:46 [Amin]
- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
- 16:05:57 [niklasl]
- +1
- 16:06:10 [gtw]
- +1
- 16:06:17 [ktk]
- RESOLUTION: Approve last week's minutes
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- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 3 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 16:06:35 [AndyS]
- zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 3 was just opened, AndyS
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- pchampin: issue 81 done
- 16:07:53 [AndyS]
- ... issue 80 done
- 16:08:15 [AndyS]
- ... issue 74 - key has reviewed (?)
- 16:08:55 [AndyS]
- gh close #80
- 16:08:55 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/issues/80 -> Issue 80 [not found]
- 16:09:57 [pchampin]
- gh, status
- 16:10:01 [AndyS]
- gh close rdf-star/#81
- 16:10:01 [gb]
- https://github.com/rdf-star//issues/81 -> #81
- 16:10:26 [AndyS]
- gh close https://github.com/rdf-star/issues/81
- 16:11:02 [gkellogg]
- gh close w3c/rdf-star-wg#81
- 16:11:02 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81 -> Action 81 ensure PRs on rdf-tests appear on the RDF-star dashboard (on pchampin)
- 16:11:19 [TallTed]
- gh close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
- 16:11:37 [TallTed]
- gb close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
- 16:12:07 [TallTed]
- gb, close https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/81
- 16:12:07 [gb]
- TallTed, sorry, I don't understand what you want me to do. Maybe try "help"?
- 16:12:39 [AndyS]
- gb help
- 16:13:24 [TallTed]
- gb, help
- 16:13:24 [gb]
- TallTed, I am a bot to look up and create GitHub issues and
- 16:13:24 [gb]
- … action items. I am an instance of GHURLBot 0.3.
- 16:13:24 [gb]
- … Try "gb, help commands" or
- 16:13:24 [gb]
- … see https://w3c.github.io/GHURLBot/manual.html
- 16:13:30 [AndyS]
- gkellogg: there are 4 rdf-tests PRs, one is appearing on the dashboard
- 16:13:45 [AndyS]
- pchampin: will need to add old ones manually
- 16:14:09 [pchampin]
- gb, status
- 16:14:09 [gb]
- pchampin, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and the repositories are https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts https://github.com/w3c/rdf-n-quads https://github.com/w3c/rdf-n-triples https://github.com/w3c/rdf-new https://github.com/w3c/rdf-primer
- 16:14:09 [gb]
- … https://github.com/w3c/rdf-schema https://github.com/w3c/rdf-semantics https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg https://github.com/w3c/rdf-trig https://github.com/w3c/rdf-turtle https://github.com/w3c/rdf-ucr https://github.com/w3c/rdf-xml https://github.com/w3c/sparql-concepts
- 16:14:10 [gb]
- … https://github.com/w3c/sparql-entailment https://github.com/w3c/sparql-federated-query https://github.com/w3c/sparql-graph-store-protocol https://github.com/w3c/sparql-new https://github.com/w3c/sparql-protocol https://github.com/w3c/sparql-query https://github.com/w3c/sparql-results-csv-tsv
- 16:14:13 [gb]
- … https://github.com/w3c/sparql-results-json
- 16:15:02 [ktk]
- gb close rdf-star-wg/#81
- 16:15:03 [gb]
- https://github.com/rdf-star-wg//issues/81 -> #81
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- present+
- 16:15:25 [gkellogg_]
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- 16:15:27 [AZ]
- I haven't anything to report on issue #19 but even if I did, I would not be able to say it to you because I can't get my mic to work
- 16:15:37 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/issues/19 -> Issue 19 [not found]
- 16:15:55 [AndyS]
- ktk: looking at "work with antoine and others to come up with a proposal for weak and strong compliance"
- 16:16:01 [AZ]
- However, I will have something to feed in the discussion soon
- 16:16:59 [AndyS]
- pchampin: paused issues - these are notes to the future
- 16:17:52 [AndyS]
- gkellogg: Still issues with old specs will ref the right place. e.g. RDF 1.0 MT
- 16:18:15 [AndyS]
- ... RDF 1.1 MT does not exist
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- q+
- 16:18:36 [AndyS]
- ... same for n-triples, n-quads where the short name has changed.
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- q-
- 16:19:21 [AndyS]
- gkellog: needs systeam to fix existing docs.
- 16:19:52 [AndyS]
- TallTed: I suggest open issue on rdf-star-wg to track
- 16:20:08 [AndyS]
- gkellogg: will create the issue
- 16:20:32 [gkellogg_]
- q+
- 16:20:52 [AndyS]
- TallTed: does not seem to track last updated which would help triage.
- 16:21:41 [ktk]
- ack gkellogg_
- 16:21:41 [gkellogg_]
- ack me
- 16:21:43 [AndyS]
- gkellogg: I looked into this - there is a long term issue on github itself (4 years old) - outside WG and W3C control.
- 16:22:26 [AndyS]
- ... this is ordering by date.
- 16:22:52 [ktk]
- Zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- Review of pull requests, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 16:23:21 [AndyS]
- ktk: were the PRs fromlast week closed?
- 16:23:36 [AndyS]
- ... anything to discuss?
- 16:23:39 [gkellogg_]
- w3c/rdf-concepts#48
- 16:23:40 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/48 -> Pull Request 48 Add base direction as a fourth element of literals. (by gkellogg) [i18n-tracker] [needs discussion] [spec:substantive]
- 16:24:00 [gkellogg_]
- w3c/rdf-concepts#59
- 16:24:00 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/59 -> Pull Request 59 Improve Unicode terminology and term references. (by gkellogg) [spec:substantive]
- 16:24:36 [AndyS]
- gkellogg_: change - literals can not include unicode surrogrates
- 16:25:31 [AndyS]
- ... I have added text to exclude that. It was in the grammar but not concepts.
- 16:27:14 [AndyS]
- ktk: "Adds BNF and text to extend LANGTAG to support base direction"
- 16:27:56 [AndyS]
- gkellogg_: open for a while. Ora was going to reach out to i18n.
- 16:28:06 [AndyS]
- ... I suggest a session at TPAC.
- 16:28:17 [pchampin]
- +1 to invite i18n people at our TPAC meeting
- 16:28:22 [AndyS]
- ktk: Ora did contact them.
- 16:29:24 [pchampin]
- q+
- 16:29:39 [AndyS]
- gkellogg: rdf-tests - this is a big fix.
- 16:29:46 [AndyS]
- s/big/bug/
- 16:29:58 [AndyS]
- ... the new "assumed base"
- 16:30:18 [gkellogg_]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/105
- 16:30:33 [AndyS]
- ... also there are PRs for rdf-tests/105 - symbolic link fix ups.
- 16:31:00 [AndyS]
- ... I have announced it publicly
- 16:31:30 [AndyS]
- ... this is a pre-integration PR
- 16:31:54 [ktk]
- q?
- 16:32:06 [ktk]
- ack pchampin
- 16:33:29 [AndyS]
- gkellogg: Please look at PRs for N-Quads and N-tripels about unicode codepoints
- 16:34:01 [AndyS]
- ... I'm waiting on these first two before moving onto the other three.
- 16:34:19 [ktk]
- RRSAgent, next item
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'next item', ktk. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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- Zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 16:35:15 [AndyS]
- gkellogg_: I added a "needs discussion" tag on the github project.
- 16:36:11 [TallTed]
- We need another standing agenda item for Issue Triage -- https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/5
- 16:36:24 [AndyS]
- ktk: Will update the standard template for the agenda.
- 16:37:11 [AndyS]
- TallTed: no assignments on issues
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- q+
- 16:37:39 [pchampin]
- scribe+
- 16:37:50 [pchampin]
- AndyS: is there a list of all the issues there are?
- 16:37:57 [pchampin]
- TallTed: I believe so
- 16:38:26 [pchampin]
- AndyS: we create many issue mostly to record things, so they don't get lost
- 16:38:40 [ktk]
- ack AndyS
- 16:38:41 [pchampin]
- ktk: will discuss this with Ora and pchampin
- 16:38:47 [pchampin]
- scribe-
- 16:39:07 [niklasl]
- q+
- 16:39:49 [AndyS]
- niklasl: The calendar says the SEM task force is cancelled.
- 16:41:15 [AZ]
- goodbye!
- 16:41:16 [pchampin]
- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
- 16:41:23 [AndyS]
- ktk: Next week, Ora will chair
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- 16:41:32 [TallTed]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 16:42:45 [ktk]
- thanks everyone
- 16:45:23 [pchampin]
- previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/17-rdf-star-minutes.html
- 16:45:36 [pchampin]
- next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/08/31-rdf-star-minutes.html
- 16:45:40 [pchampin]
- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
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- RRSAgent, leave
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- I see no action items