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13:47:32 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization WG Teleconference
13:47:37 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:47:44 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/c5b143d1-0a5b-4adb-8d60-0f5f9bfe5a41/20230824T150000/
13:47:44 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:47:44 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:47:44 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:47:46 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:47:48 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
13:47:50 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
13:47:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:47:53 <agendabot> agenda+ I18N+CSS
13:47:55 <agendabot> agenda+ WCAG 2.2
13:47:57 <agendabot> agenda+ name-like fields
13:47:59 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
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14:00:17 <addison> present+ Addison, Fuqiao, Atsushi
14:00:39 <addison> present+ JcK
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14:01:28 <JcK> present+ JcK
14:05:46 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:05:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:05:50 <addison> agenda?
14:06:19 <addison> agenda+ TPAC
14:06:28 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:06:28 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:06:36 <xfq> scribe: xfq
14:06:45 <addison> gb, list open actions
14:06:45 <gb> Found actions in w3c/i18n-actions: #35, #34, #33, #32, #18, #16, #15, #13, #12, #11, #10, #9, #8, #7, #6, #5, #4
14:06:55 <addison> #35?
14:06:56 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/35 -> Action 35 make the edits of CSS #5478 (on fantasai) due 2023-08-30
14:07:05 <addison> #34?
14:07:06 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/34 -> Action 34 write summary email showing path forward for WCAG 2.2 (on aphillips) due 2023-08-24
14:07:22 <addison> close #34
14:07:25 <addison> #33?
14:07:25 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 -> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)
14:07:28 <gb> Closed -> action #34 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/34
14:07:57 <addison> #32?
14:07:57 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/32 -> Action 32 Approve the character markup PR (on fantasai) due 2023-08-17
14:07:59 <xfq> addison: started #34
14:08:54 <addison> #18?
14:08:55 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/18 -> Action 18 Have informal explanation sessions about counter style translations with csswg members (on frivoal, fantasai)
14:09:02 <addison> #16?
14:09:03 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16 -> Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips)
14:09:13 <addison> #15?
14:09:13 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/15 -> Action 15 Get character styling into w3c stylesheet (on aphillips)
14:09:17 <xfq> xfq: fantasai will look at the latest revision of the character markup PR
14:09:21 <addison> #13?
14:09:22 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/13 -> Action 13 Make sure generics are comfortable to read in the content language (on frivoal)
14:09:29 <addison> #12?
14:09:30 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/12 -> Action 12 Upgrade/edit the explainer to address issues raised by google (on aphillips)
14:09:40 <addison> #11?
14:09:40 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/11 -> Action 11 Triage all css properties to determine which are logical, physical, or na by default (on frivoal)
14:09:46 <addison> #10?
14:09:47 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/10 -> Action 10 With florian triage richard's article into a list of potential generics (on fantasai)
14:09:53 <addison> #9?
14:09:53 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/9 -> Action 9 Follow up with ecma-402 on next steps and start tc39 discussion (on aphillips)
14:09:59 <addison> #8
14:09:59 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 -> Action 8 Create pr against canvas formatted text (on aphillips)
14:10:07 <addison> #7?
14:10:08 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 -> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github)
14:10:18 <addison> #6
14:10:19 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/6 -> Action 6 Check if unicode describes backwards deletion clearly and develop doc if not (on aphillips)
14:10:42 <addison> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-backwards-deletion.en.html
14:10:44 <xfq> \o/
14:10:58 <xfq> addison: this is ready for review
14:11:06 <addison> #5
14:11:06 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/5 -> Action 5 Check into how to list questions at the top of a digest and/or improve lang enablement communications (on r12a)
14:11:17 <xfq> addison: please send comments
14:11:19 <addison> #4
14:11:20 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 -> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a)
14:11:36 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:11:36 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:03 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:12:03 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:14 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
14:13:12 <xfq> addison: no new incoming requests
14:13:12 <addison> agenda?
14:13:12 <xfq> ... no items in review
14:13:26 <xfq> xfq: First Public Working Draft published: Catalan Gap Analysis
14:13:36 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
14:13:36 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- WCAG 2.2 -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:13:41 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:13:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:14:51 <xfq> addison: I don't know if any of you guys know what the status of the formal objections from Japan
14:14:54 <xfq> ... or from China
14:15:18 <addison> action: addison to follow up with murata-san about wcag status
14:15:25 <gb> Created -> action #36 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/36
14:15:25 <xfq> ... I'd like to avoid a formal objection if it's not going to make sense to have one
14:16:03 <xfq> xfq: they're already sending PRs, we'll see how it goes
14:16:18 <xfq> addison: I think we need to probably formally review them
14:16:32 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:16:32 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- I18N+CSS -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:16:50 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/2023/08/23-i18n-minutes.html
14:17:37 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8442
14:17:39 <addison> xfq: css working on proposal which will help with logical properties
14:18:12 <addison> xfq: css issue ^^ contains a mapping from kana to small kana. they want to upstream it to unicode
14:19:45 <xfq> addison: I don't think they have a page that says here's the mapping
14:19:55 <xfq> ... but it might be in normalization
14:20:08 <xfq> ... because you also got the narrow to wide kana
14:20:19 <xfq> ... you have a whole bunch of that stuff
14:21:03 <addison> action: xfq to investigate the small kana mapping and what if anything to recommend to unicode
14:21:05 <gb> Created -> action #37 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/37
14:21:39 <addison> xfq: should develop an agenda for tpac for joint meeting
14:21:56 <addison> ... don't have an agenda list specifically for tpac
14:22:24 <addison> action: addison to propose i18n+css agenda for tpac
14:22:25 <gb> Created -> action #38 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/38
14:23:09 <addison> xfq: discussed character markup for styling. fantasai disagreed that there should not be a space between the code point and character name
14:23:15 <addison> ... she prefers a space
14:23:39 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5478
14:24:21 <xfq> scribe+ addison
14:24:37 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
14:24:37 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- name-like fields -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:24:51 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/vc-data-model/pull/1252#issuecomment-1686366538
14:25:24 <xfq> addison: we made a comment sometime ago about they have natural language text fields
14:25:28 <xfq> ... name and description
14:25:45 <xfq> ... and our comment on them was "you should have language and direction"
14:26:01 <xfq> ... "you should probably allow fore more than one of them"
14:26:34 <xfq> ... because people might want to localize the credential rather than having a separate credential in every language on earth
14:26:45 <xfq> ... Manu added some thing on how to use these fields
14:26:51 <xfq> ... but didn't mention localization
14:27:03 <xfq> ... so I made this comment and he addressed it
14:27:19 <addison> action: addison to develop best practice guidelines for name-like fields
14:27:21 <gb> Created -> action #39 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/39
14:27:29 <addison> agenda?
14:27:36 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
14:27:36 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- TPAC -- taken up [from addison]
14:27:52 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/wiki/2023-TPAC-Planning
14:28:04 <xfq> addison: I don't have a lot in our TPAC calendar yet
14:28:28 <xfq> ... I do need to go back and add a couple of things and I have an email to respond to from one of the groups
14:28:42 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/91#issuecomment-1646281939
14:29:45 <addison> action: addison to ping webappswg about a joint time on monday/tuesday at tpac
14:29:48 <gb> Created -> action #40 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/40
14:29:57 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/webapps/
14:30:47 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 9
14:30:47 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:31:00 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/pull/52
14:31:48 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/pull/35
14:33:43 <xfq> addison: you're better off quoting them than forking
14:33:47 <xfq> xfq: OK
14:33:50 <xfq> ... I'll update the PR
14:35:15 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:35:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:36:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-i18n-minutes.html addison
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14:36:32 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:36:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/24-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:39:59 <addison> zakim, bye
14:39:59 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Fuqiao, Atsushi, JcK
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