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13:56:33 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
13:57:04 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:57:05 <matatk> Chair:  Matthew
13:57:05 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:57:05 <matatk> agenda+ TPAC 2023 planning - including APA member homework! - https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2023
13:57:08 <matatk> agenda+ New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:57:11 <matatk> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
13:57:13 <matatk> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:57:16 <matatk> agenda+ New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:57:19 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
13:57:22 <matatk> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action et al
13:57:24 <matatk> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:57:27 <matatk> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:57:29 <matatk> agenda+ Other Business
13:57:32 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
13:59:41 <matatk> agenda?
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14:02:40 <Nichole> present+
14:02:45 <matatk> present+
14:03:54 <Gottfried> scribe: Gottfried
14:04:02 <Gottfried> present+
14:04:13 <Gottfried> agenda?
14:04:18 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:04:20 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
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14:05:04 <Gottfried> Gottfried: AAATE conference in Paris next week
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14:05:36 <Gottfried> … Workshop on a11y in HE, can be attended online: https://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?langId=en&catId=1612&eventsId=2112&furtherEvents=yes
14:05:36 <Alisa_Smith> present+
14:05:43 <Gottfried> ... Registration required
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14:06:02 <Fredrik> present+
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14:06:11 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:06:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2023 planning - including APA member homework! - https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2023 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:06:19 <janina> present+
14:06:21 <Roy> present+
14:06:49 <Gottfried> matatk: Updating wiki with upcoming meetings.
14:07:21 <matatk> APA TPAC 2023 wiki page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
14:08:00 <Gottfried> ... Section at top of the page: homework to be done
14:08:20 <matatk> ARIA meeting on Notifications: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023#ARIA
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14:09:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:09:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:09:19 <Gottfried> ... ARIA has a proposal on SR-compatible notifications, feedback requested. Offline doc can be requested by matatk.
14:10:34 <Gottfried> ... Want to make sure that users beyond SR are accommodated (e.g. Coga).
14:10:47 <Gottfried> ... Think about use cases that are not covered.
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14:11:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:11:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/23-apa-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:11:36 <Gottfried> ... Discussion board on GitHub.
14:11:57 <matatk> CSS specs with accessibility considerations: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023#CSS
14:12:07 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:12:48 <Gottfried> ... Many W3C groups have just published work. So they are now looking at long-term plans.
14:13:14 <Gottfried> ... For CSS, please review the specs at https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023#CSS
14:13:38 <Gottfried> ... CSS folks know about accessibility quite well.
14:14:03 <Gottfried> ... At TPAC, we want to make sure we are on the same page.
14:15:00 <Gottfried> Zakim, next item
14:15:00 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:15:21 <Gottfried> No new charter
14:15:26 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:15:26 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:15:27 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:15:27 <Zakim> 4. Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from matatk]
14:15:28 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:15:29 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
14:16:19 <Gottfried> present?
14:16:41 <matatk> Open spec review requests: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aw3c%2Fa11y-request+state%3Aopen+type%3Aissue&type=issues
14:16:48 <matatk> zakim, who's here?
14:16:48 <Zakim> Present: Nichole, matatk, Gottfried, Alisa_Smith, Fredrik, janina, Roy, Lionel_Wolberger, mike_beganyi
14:16:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see mike_beganyi, Lionel_Wolberger, janina, Fredrik, Alisa_Smith, PaulG, Gottfried, Nichole, RRSAgent, Zakim, matatk, shawn, Roy, gb, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, M2cshkpcgrp,
14:16:50 <Zakim> ... ada, Rachael, tink, agendabot, ZoeBijl, slightlyoff, cwilso, jcraig
14:16:51 <PaulG> present+
14:20:06 <matatk> DAPT review request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/66
14:20:50 <Gottfried> Janina: Will probably work on this on Thu/Fri.
14:21:25 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:21:25 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
14:21:39 <Roy> subtopic: Should <dir> behave like a list element?
14:21:40 <Roy> -   issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9296
14:22:07 <Gottfried> Roy: Related to ARIA wg.
14:22:47 <Gottfried> matatk: We had a previous discussion on this.
14:22:48 <matatk> Per our meta-discussion, we decided we don't need to do anything for this one: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/161
14:23:39 <Roy> subtopic: Consider allowing <hr> within list elements (ol, ul, menu)
14:23:40 <Roy> -   issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9126
14:23:59 <Gottfried> Roy: Also related to ARIA wg.
14:24:11 <Gottfried> matatk: I have a comment on this.
14:24:37 <Gottfried> ... Coga was in favor of my comment.
14:24:53 <matatk> meta/tracking issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/158
14:25:17 <Gottfried> ... I will post the comment resulting from our discussion.
14:28:43 <Gottfried> matatk: ... Issue assigned to me.
14:28:46 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:28:46 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from matatk]
14:28:57 <Gottfried> Nothing new here
14:29:01 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:29:01 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
14:29:02 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:29:02 <Zakim> 7. CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from matatk]
14:29:04 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:29:04 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
14:29:27 <Gottfried> PaulG: Nothing new
14:29:31 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:29:31 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
14:29:32 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:29:32 <Zakim> 8. Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action et al [from matatk]
14:29:33 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:29:33 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action et al -- taken up [from matatk]
14:30:00 <matatk> https://github.com/search?q=label%3Aaction+repo%3Aw3c%2Faac-registry+repo%3Aw3c%2Fadapt+repo%3Aw3c%2Fapa+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcaptcha-accessibility+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcoga+repo%3Aw3c%2Fctaur+repo%3Aw3c%2Ffast+repo%3Aw3c%2Fmaturity-model+repo%3Aw3c%2Fmedia-accessibility-reqs+repo%3Aw3c%2Fnaur+repo%3Aw3c%2Fpronunciation+repo%3Aw3c%2Fraur+repo%3Aw3c%2Frqtf+repo%3Aw3c%2Fsaur+repo%3Aw3c%2Fxaur+state%3Aopen+type%3Aissue&type=issu
14:30:06 <matatk> es
14:30:59 <Gottfried> matatk: You have to concat the two messages to build the real URL.
14:31:55 <Gottfried> matatk: There is a spec for providing well-known URLs
14:31:58 <Gottfried> ... with password
14:32:22 <matatk> Well-known URIs: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/231
14:33:15 <Gottfried> .... Original purpose: Let your password manager update your password
14:33:25 <Gottfried> ... Can be used for a11y purposes as well.
14:33:47 <janina> q+
14:34:17 <Gottfried> ... A user might not be able to navigate the page for changing the password, but could still use this URL.
14:35:24 <Gottfried> janina: IETF has a spec for well-known URIs, and a registry for them.
14:36:14 <Gottfried> ... Came out of WAI coordination group.
14:39:50 <matatk> Your assigned GitHub issues: https://github.com/issues/assigned
14:40:02 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:40:04 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Gottfried
14:40:07 <matatk> ack janina
14:40:12 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:40:12 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from matatk]
14:40:27 <Gottfried> matatk: Can skip for now
14:40:32 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:40:32 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:40:33 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:40:33 <Zakim> 10. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from matatk]
14:40:35 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:40:36 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from matatk]
14:41:19 <Gottfried> subtopic: Maturity
14:41:39 <Gottfried> janina: Updating a glitch on a published doc.
14:42:01 <Gottfried> ... Can't see where the pull request is
14:42:06 <Gottfried> Roy: Will check.
14:43:01 <Gottfried> ... Seems already fixed.
14:43:26 <Gottfried> ... Revised working draft to come
14:43:33 <matatk> q+
14:44:02 <matatk> ack me
14:44:38 <Gottfried> matatk: We talked about having a maturity model break-out at TPAC.
14:44:51 <Gottfried> ... Do we need to help the facilitators?
14:45:29 <Gottfried> janina: It is going. Intro why we need this. Panel on companies who have prototyped with the W3C MM.
14:46:03 <Gottfried> matatk: Break-outs are on Wed.
14:46:22 <Gottfried> ... There are also lightning talks: super-quick presentations (3+2min)
14:47:03 <Gottfried> ... Should we also propose a lightning talk for MM?
14:47:03 <Gottfried> janina: Good idea.  I will discuss this in the call next hour.
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14:47:18 <Gottfried> ... Useful to show uptake of the work we do.
14:47:45 <Gottfried> subtopic: RQTF
14:48:06 <Gottfried> janina: Picking up some new assignments (well-known URLs is one example).
14:48:50 <Gottfried> ... Tighter coordination between WCAG3 work and research findings needed for their work.
14:49:28 <Gottfried> ... Anybody interested in contrast requirements?
14:51:13 <Gottfried> subtopic: Pronunciation
14:51:43 <Gottfried> matatk: Getting feedback from manufacturers.  Pursuing industry consensus.
14:51:54 <Gottfried> subtopic: FAST
14:52:43 <Gottfried> matatk: Michael handed the work over to Frederik. At TPAC, some ice-breaking work could be done for FAST.
14:52:53 <Gottfried> ... We should consider a lightning talk for FAST.
14:53:08 <Gottfried> ... Still arranging for a time to meet for FAST wg at TPAC.
14:53:42 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:53:42 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from matatk]
14:54:44 <Gottfried> (nothing to add)
14:54:49 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:54:49 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- Be done -- taken up [from matatk]
14:55:27 <Gottfried> zakim, bye
14:55:27 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Nichole, matatk, Gottfried, Alisa_Smith, Fredrik, janina, Roy, Lionel_Wolberger, mike_beganyi, PaulG
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14:55:35 <Gottfried> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:55:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/23-apa-minutes.html Gottfried
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