Meeting minutes
Review agenda and future meeting dates
<Matt_King> View today's agenda at https://
<Matt_King> Next community group meeting is August 24 (Thursday).
<Matt_King> Next automation meeting is Monday August 28.
Check in on current testing work
Matt_King: We are working on getting Action Menu Button Example Using aria-activedescendant
Matt_King: James it looks like Isa has completed her tests, Joe has not
Matt_King: Joe is not here today, this is stuck until we hear from JOe
PAC will reach out to Joe to check the status of his testing
For the test Disclosure Navigation Menu Example, Hadi has completed his testing and we now only have 4 conflicts remaining
Isa: These are new conflicts, we resolved all of the ones we discussed last week
Hadi: Hello! I had some trouble getting into the meeting
Matt_King: I will look into the email to see why the login button wasn't included
Lola: It looks like two emails were sent today, the first one included the link
Hadi: For the last two conflicts I'm not sure what Isa was doing. I marked the last two assertions as failing because part of the naming its "University sample page content" I didn't hear the words "sample page"
James: It is included in your output tho
Hadi: Hmm maybe because I'm blind I didn't see it!
(group chuckles)
Hadi: Okay good, do you want me to change it?
James: No I just changed it
Isa: Okay we have one conflict remaining
James: Hadi you may need to rerun test 42
Hadi: Let me tell you what happend, I had to completely exit from my browser, because JAWS was reading the entire page to me. I re ran the test multiple test, then exited, resigned in and ran the test again. The output I collected is in the test
Isa: Okay yes well I tested it twice and confirmed I got the same results both times.
Hadi: Should 42 and 43 produce similar output?
James: Yes for the interactive mode you seem to be getting the correct output, but for the reading mode test its reading the link which doesn't make sense
Matt_King: I'm trying to run the test now
James: Yes this is a mess
James: I have a bad feeling that they way we are opening this test is causing the page to reload. I'm going to test the same page in the APG
Matt_King: So what do we need to do to capture the speech output, there is some excess verbosity here
James: As of now both outputs are correct, can Isa and Hadi please rerun the test
Matt_King: Great thank you Hadi!
Matt_King: After this test we will have almost cleared out test queue! We can discuss next week whether or not to start more tests before the app updates are complete
Test plan prioritization
Matt_King: We have some progress on collecting APG visit data
Lola: I have updated the data in the test prioritization test sheet from data from January to today.
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Lola: There are also about 10 plans that are not in there
James: I don't think the spreadsheet was fully exhaustive
Lola: For the Meter page there isn't much data which is confusing
Matt_King: That is weird, because I personally have been to the Meter Page
Lola: James I will send you the missing plans via email
Matt_King: These numbers seem low
Lola: It does seem a little off to me aswell
Lola: This is my first foray into data analytics
Matt_King: We may need some help from Shawn Henry
Matt_King: The popular pages get 8 to 10 thousand visits a month
Matt_King: Something must be off
Matt_King: Lola can you reach out to Shawn Henry and go through how to use the analytics site? OR Kevin White?
Lola: I can do that, but Shawn is very busy now, it took a month to even get access to this data
Matt_King: If you can resolve this in the next month that would be great
Lola: Okay I can do that, I may have just debugged the issue
Lola: does this sound right, for Combo box it would have 39,000 visits
Matt_King: Yes that sounds right
James: For new examples or patterns they will have less visits
Matt_King: Yes we will need to consider that, we only have new examples
Matt_King: Thank you for your work on this Lola
Lola: Quick update the AT Driver spec is being add to the BTT Working Group!
Matt_King: Awesome!
Review mockup of new test format
Matt_King: James and I have finalized the new test format
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Matt_King: I will point out a few additions
Matt_King: Notice in Test one it doesn't mention anything about mode
The biggest difference is the list of commands
James: I think we should add an instruction that tells the tester to refresh the page after they run each command
James: We may need to provide instruction on how to navigate with virtual cursor
Matt_King: Okay I think we can add those as disclosures
Matt_King: I'm going to add a setting columns for specific required settings
Matt_King: Sometime in the future, we don't need it now