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14:01:21 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
14:01:27 <janina> Meeting APA Weekly Teleconference
14:01:36 <janina> Date: 16 Aug 2024
14:01:41 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:01:56 <PaulG> present+
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14:03:20 <janina> Chair:  Janina
14:03:20 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements                                                      Spring, Md 20906 To Fairways North Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 12:43:40PM EDT
14:03:21 <janina> agenda+ Charter Update https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results
14:03:24 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
14:03:27 <janina> agenda+ RQTF Resolution re Symposium Report
14:03:29 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
14:03:32 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
14:03:35 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
14:03:38 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html                 33:31PM EDT
14:03:41 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
14:03:43 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
14:03:46 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
14:03:48 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
14:03:51 <janina> agenda+ be done
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14:08:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:08:11 <janina> present+
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14:09:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
14:09:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:09:19 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements                                                      Spring, Md 20906 To Fairways North Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 12:43:40PM EDT -- taken up
14:09:23 <Zakim> ... [from janina]
14:09:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:09:54 <Fredrik> present+
14:11:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Invited Experts (IEs) have to be re-invited, but APA will not do that since APA has no new reg track deliverables
14:11:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:11:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Charter Update https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results -- taken up [from janina]
14:11:56 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:11:56 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
14:11:57 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:11:57 <Zakim> 3. TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 [from janina]
14:11:58 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:11:58 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from janina]
14:12:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close item
14:12:02 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Lionel_Wolberger
14:12:43 <janina> q?
14:14:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: The APA chairs are doing extensive pre-planning for TPAC
14:14:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... a lot of internal APA work planned
14:16:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the Wiki page (cited) is up to date, https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
14:18:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... notice a few significant specs are moving towards new versions, e.g., ARIA, ePUB
14:19:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the ARIA notification proposal should be reviewed by us, link on the wiki is https://docs.google.com/document/d/17kKNoCIoMSFMFicz0wSQR-PHWHfHGYfz1WdtHMYyrhE/edit#heading=h.r83mzc4f0o33
14:20:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... since ARIA is generally focused on screen reader, APA's contribution should be to focus on non-screen reader use cases
14:25:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Fredrik: Let's look to the WhatWG Notifications API as well.
14:25:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... https://notifications.spec.whatwg.org/
14:27:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Semantic headings in embedded media
14:28:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: APA may be interested in defining semantics within an embedded object
14:28:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... for example, an embedded Music XML on a page may want its own H1, H2, H3
14:28:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and not only be subject to the hierarchy of the host page
14:29:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... same with embedded media, as the user agent continues to be a primary technology for access to content, media, etc
14:29:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we can imagine that the embed would even use its own user-agent
14:29:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... requiring handoffs between the embed and the host
14:30:56 <matatk> agenda?
14:31:11 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:31:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/16-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:31:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: When considering this embed/host issue, we will likely want to look at the decisions made regarding iFrames
14:32:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 4
14:32:55 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RQTF Resolution re Symposium Report -- taken up [from janina]
14:33:11 <matatk> zakim, drop item 5
14:33:11 <Zakim> agendum 5, New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22, dropped
14:33:13 <matatk> zakim, drop item 6
14:33:14 <Zakim> agendum 6, A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review, dropped
14:33:14 <matatk> zakim, drop item 7
14:33:14 <Zakim> agendum 7, Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues, dropped
14:33:15 <matatk> zakim, drop item 8
14:33:16 <Zakim> agendum 8, new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html                 33:31PM EDT, dropped
14:33:28 <matatk> agenda?
14:33:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: CTAUR (https://www.w3.org/TR/ctaur/)
14:33:43 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:33:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/16-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:34:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... has new focus, partially due to the news that Red Hat is dropping Libre Office
14:34:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... from the net, 'Red Hat's Matthias Clasen has let it be known that LibreOffice will be dropped from a future Red Hat Enterprise Linux release, and the future of its support in Fedora is unclear as well.'
14:35:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... RQTF spoke with COGA regarding collaboration on Google Docs
14:35:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... COGA cited that they prefer inline comments to the comments-on-the-side user interface on Google Docs
14:35:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... which also require their own keystrokes
14:37:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... FYI, COGA finds GitHub quite challenging to use, both UI and command line
14:37:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... with usability challenges that map into the API itself
14:38:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... MAUR has received input from the W3C Media and Entertainment Interest Group
14:39:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the chair notes that the *AUR series (accessibility user requirements) originated with our engagement with HTML5
14:42:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: We see developers redoing experiences within Canvas elements
14:42:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... so when people for example use a WebTV in Canvas
14:42:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the developers find themselves reinventing all the accessibility support
14:43:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> PaulG: It's not quite as stark as that, canvas supports HTML fallbacks which have sell known accessibility features
14:43:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... WhatWG needs to solidify this and indicate that this will not be deprecated
14:43:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: This HTML fallback needs to be documented better
14:44:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> PaulG: Like the JS <noscript> section
14:47:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:47:13 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from janina]
14:47:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close item
14:47:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Lionel_Wolberger
14:47:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
14:47:27 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:47:28 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:47:28 <Zakim> 9. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
14:47:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:47:30 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:48:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> PaulG: There was a light/dark color contrast discussion, but mostly about what to call it, nothing directly addressing accessibility
14:50:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:50:08 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:52:26 <matatk> A list of comment review requests that are both pending and closed (i.e. high priority): https://github.com/search?q=label%3Aclose%3F+label%3Apending+repo%3Aw3c%2Fa11y-review+state%3Aopen+type%3Aissue&type=issues
14:54:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: A list of comment review requests that are both pending and closed (i.e. high priority): https://github.com/search?q=label%3Aclose%3F+label%3Apending+repo%3Aw3c%2Fa11y-review+state%3Aopen+type%3Aissue&type=issues
14:54:47 <matatk> Here's a list of actions:
14:54:47 <matatk> https://github.com/search?q=label%3Aaction+repo%3Aw3c%2Faac-registry+repo%3Aw3c%2Fadapt+repo%3Aw3c%2Fapa+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcaptcha-accessibility+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcoga+repo%3Aw3c%2Fctaur+repo%3Aw3c%2Ffast+repo%3Aw3c%2Fmaturity-model+repo%3Aw3c%2Fmedia-accessibility-reqs+repo%3Aw3c%2Fnaur+repo%3Aw3c%2Fpronunciation+repo%3Aw3c%2Fraur+repo%3Aw3c%2Frqtf+repo%3Aw3c%2Fsaur+repo%3Aw3c%2Fxaur+state%3Aopen+type%3Aissue&type=issu
14:54:53 <matatk> es
14:54:58 <matatk> (for WG and TFs - oops URL too long!)
14:56:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
14:56:06 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been mike_beganyi, PaulG, Lionel_Wolberger, janina, matatk, Fredrik
14:56:08 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:56:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/16-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:56:15 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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