IRC log of wcag3-motion on 2023-08-14

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zakim, start meeting
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RRSAgent, make logs Public
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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Rain
12:55:11 [Rain]
meeting: wcag3-motion week 4
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agenda?
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rrsagent, make logs world
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chair: Rain
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present+
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agenda+ Set up scribe
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agenda+ review functional needs
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agenda+ determine outcomes
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agenda+ assign this week's tasks
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agenda?
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present+
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presemt+
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present+
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present+ Makoto
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zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1 -- Set up scribe -- taken up [from Rain]
13:04:55 [Eric_hind]
scribe+
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Eric is scribing, thank you!
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zakim, take up item 2
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agendum 2 -- review functional needs -- taken up [from Rain]
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13:10:33 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Intros to Tiffany
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Rain: Review high level functional needs from Harm from Motion scratchpad with group (Rain to edit this section for clear language as action item)
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q?
13:17:54 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Review of Makoto's categorization exercise (map against WCAG 2.x SC)
13:17:57 [Makoto]
Review of "Categorization exercise 2 Aug.xlsx" for anything that still needs to be considered https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jCOE4cO68V-QUiZEhJNkrQydNmW71ljaCGGu2Zmnlok/edit#heading=h.y61t2nt02do2
13:19:43 [Eric_hind]
Makoto: Appears to be nothing missing from 2.x in my review.
13:20:53 [Eric_hind]
Makoto: We should review/consider XR/VR accessibility working group items.
13:22:04 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Added Makoto guideline review to Scratchpad Define Outcome
13:22:07 [jeanne2]
q+ to record source
13:23:04 [Eric_hind]
Jeanne: Note that items taken from outside of W3C, we need to record from where it came from.
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q?
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ack jeanne
13:23:09 [Zakim]
jeanne, you wanted to record source
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q?
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Writing testable outcomes document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sugAtqie_x1XqHDZo1Im7ftDNllWeRV_ty4PULeoTV0/edit#heading=h.wpuyj02kuf4h
13:25:43 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Testable outcomes need to define a user need, no ambiguity, quick and inexpensive to test and easy to learn
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q+
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ack Eric_hind
13:27:49 [jeanne2]
+1 to tool not being a requirement
13:28:23 [jedi]
q+ to mapping outcomes to user needs?
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ack next
13:28:36 [Zakim]
jedi, you wanted to mapping outcomes to user needs?
13:28:43 [jeanne2]
q+ to explain context How to Write Outcomes document
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ack next
13:30:14 [Zakim]
jeanne, you wanted to explain context How to Write Outcomes document
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q?
13:33:23 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Personalization respect: Outcome could be respect user settings/preferences for motion based on device, user agent, AT settings
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q?
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q?
13:38:41 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Safety considerations, use without physical harm or risk: provide option to turn off/ hide different kinds of movement
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+1
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ack next
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Rain: Sensory, Use with limited orientation Outcome: Ensure that the spatial orientation of elements remains consistent and predictable (doesn't change unexpectedly)
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q+
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ack tburtin
13:42:59 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Sensory, avoid fatigue or allow taking a break.
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Tiffany: Add outcome related to ability for user to save their work when they need a break.
13:44:34 [Eric_hind]
Rain: This particular outcome will be flagged, but may belong to another criteria
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q?
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q+
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q+ to triggers
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ack tburtin
13:47:58 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Use with vestibular issues. Existing outcomes may fit into this higher level outcome such as avoid flickering, appearance of motion, sudden movements/events, motion sickness triggers, hide movement, turn off or hide other movement, spatial orientation.. and add alert that motion will begin
13:50:05 [Rain]
ack jedi
13:50:05 [Zakim]
jedi, you wanted to triggers
13:50:06 [Eric_hind]
Tiffany: Add the relationship between dark mode and other related color/contrast modes, scrolling modes; the interaction effects
13:52:17 [Eric_hind]
Jedi: Trigger outcomes should include High Contrast, Flickering. Size, length or magnitude of effect should also be a consideration.
13:52:46 [Rain]
zakim, take up next item
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agendum 1 -- Set up scribe -- taken up [from Rain]
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zakim, take up item 2
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agendum 2 -- review functional needs -- taken up [from Rain]
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zakim, take up item 3
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agendum 3 -- determine outcomes -- taken up [from Rain]
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Work in progress, will continue next week
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zakim, take up item 4
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agendum 4 -- assign this week's tasks -- taken up [from Rain]
13:54:37 [Eric_hind]
Rain: Task Assignments, Rain to do Plain Language, Makoto to do outcome review documents, Eric, Tiffany (and Jeanne) to review outcomes
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+1
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+1
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+1
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+1
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q+
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ack Eric_hind
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RRSAgent: make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/14-wcag3-motion-minutes.html Rain
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zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been Rain, jedi, Eric_hind, Makoto
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/14-wcag3-motion-minutes.html Zakim
13:59:59 [Zakim]
I am happy to have been of service, Rain; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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