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13:55:45 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
13:55:46 <Lisa> regrets+ EA , Rain
13:55:46 <Lisa> aagenda?
13:55:46 <Lisa> agenda?
13:56:32 <Lisa> clear agenda
13:57:14 <Lisa> agenda+ updates,  Github WCAG 3 training , ISO standard, etc
13:59:28 <Lisa> agenda+ New versions of issue papers (by Becca) on  conversational interfaces https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit
13:59:42 <Lisa> agenda+  New versions of issue papers (by Becca) on  conversational interfaces https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit [from lisa]
14:00:39 <Lisa> agenda+ Issues in github see https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+
14:01:16 <Lisa> agenda+ subgrpu[s https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.plt9g4kok1rb
14:01:50 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
14:01:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/14-coga-minutes.html Lisa
14:01:59 <Lisa> regrets+ EA , Rain, Jennie
14:08:28 <Lisa> agenda 2 =  wayfinding (see https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1TDtuC_iMyS_X6nXwyEEAu4Abp2tXHb86/edit
14:17:10 <Lisa> Agenda?
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14:54:55 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
14:54:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/14-coga-minutes.html Lisa
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14:59:50 <Rain> present+
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15:00:52 <Becca_Monteleone> present+
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15:01:27 <Lisa> next item
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15:02:03 <Lisa> scribe+ eric, lisa
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15:02:33 <Eric_hind> q+
15:02:46 <Lisa> ack item
15:02:51 <Lisa> ack next
15:04:23 <Eric_hind> Becca and Eric: Found github training useful.   There will be more training tomorrow (and follow up screenreader training after that ).
15:04:53 <kirkwood> present+
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15:05:32 <tburtin> I also attended the github training and found it helpful. I will likely join the second call too.
15:05:36 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Will be doing refresher on COGA processes and documents after main call
15:06:37 <Lisa> q?
15:07:20 <Lisa> agenda?
15:07:33 <Lisa> take up item 4
15:08:33 <Eric_hind> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KvEnKdXe30e9BUxcR8RYEOB3PqM7Z9nbLGL8gG-vVW4/edit
15:10:06 <Lisa> eric leading the discussion
15:10:48 <Lisa>  ping us  in 20
15:12:09 <Lisa> tags are editorial or disscusion in erics docs
15:13:12 <Lisa> are we ok with fixing broken links
15:13:14 <Lisa> +1
15:13:28 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:13:29 <JustineP> +1
15:13:29 <abbey> +1
15:13:30 <Rain> +1
15:13:43 <Lisa> and objections
15:13:46 <tburtin> +1
15:13:46 <Lisa> ?
15:13:58 <Lisa> no objections
15:14:17 <Lisa> 324: to more ors in a sentence
15:14:48 <Rain> +1 to requesting bullet pointed list
15:15:01 <Rain> q+
15:15:13 <Rachael> +1 to bullet points as well.
15:15:24 <Lisa> editorial without change in meening. such as braking it into a list
15:15:30 <Lisa> ack next
15:16:20 <Lisa> rain: when there is long sentence , many cluses  . limit each line to one idea
15:16:55 <Rain> +1
15:16:58 <Lisa> without changing the content
15:17:14 <Eric_hind> +1
15:17:19 <Lisa> with a second person cheking ideas and meening is not changed?
15:17:22 <Lisa> +1
15:17:24 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:17:25 <JustineP> +1
15:17:30 <Lisa> any objections?
15:18:21 <Lisa> issue 323 - wrong user need
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15:22:25 <Lisa> link to task mangment (same user need,)
15:22:34 <JustineP> +1
15:22:35 <Lisa> +1
15:22:36 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:22:36 <Eric_hind> +1
15:22:38 <Lisa> any objections?
15:22:39 <tburtin> +1
15:22:39 <kirkwood> +1
15:22:44 <julierawe> +1
15:22:44 <Rain> +1
15:27:52 <Lisa> 322 user need points to the wrong user need becuse titles are confucing (support, and help) which is which
15:28:13 <Lisa> rain: we need to resucture and come out with clear buckets
15:28:17 <Lisa> q?
15:29:00 <Lisa> but diffrent work streem to what we are doing now in our subgroup
15:30:27 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Titles at the more granular level can be confusing... we have branched as a way to get changes in before major markups or versions?  Alternatively, we could gather up items and forward to newer structures?
15:30:55 <Lisa> rain: yes move forward with editorial changes in erics branch
15:31:40 <Eric_hind> Rain: Editorial changes will help right now.   Given the mapping isn't 1:1, referencing the public version will be a good thing as the most current could be referenced.
15:31:43 <Lisa> lisa: can you tell us when we need to stop editorial changes in a diffrent branch
15:33:08 <Lisa> q?
15:33:08 <Eric_hind> Lisa: We need to coordinate branching so new structure pulls from the right time and place.
15:34:28 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Add document marker about decisions (e.g. # of +1s to change somthing in this issue)
15:34:34 <Eric_hind> +1
15:34:44 <Rain> +1
15:34:50 <kirkwood> +1
15:34:53 <abbey> +1
15:35:01 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:35:01 <Lisa>  are we ok with changing the mapping, and opening a new issue that help and support are confucing titles
15:35:15 <Lisa> (as diffrent user stories)
15:35:23 <Lisa> no objections
15:38:07 <Eric_hind> +1
15:38:16 <Lisa> Proposed: Change  Use Tapered prompts  To : Use prompts that adapt with the user’s behavior (Tapered Prompts).
15:38:16 <tburtin> +1
15:38:23 <Lisa> issue 321
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15:38:29 <Rain> +1
15:38:38 <Lisa> any objections
15:39:15 <Lisa> 320 4.6.2.1 User Need has content  from 3.2.2 Searchable (User Story) but link says Distractions (3.5.1).
15:41:11 <kirkwood> findable makes more sense to me…
15:41:34 <Lisa> 320, might need more work
15:42:51 <Lisa> ds to be researched again and validated. (like search feature - searchable) Also, could review user needs and be sure they’re in the right place..
15:43:57 <Lisa> 319 has simmilar issue
15:44:26 <Lisa> maybe we need a good review of user needs , titles and user stories are clear
15:44:38 <Eric_hind> +1
15:44:43 <Lisa> q?
15:44:53 <Rain> q+
15:45:08 <Lisa> ack next
15:45:17 <Lisa> rain is concerned that we have too much
15:45:51 <Lisa> streched too thin
15:47:30 <Lisa> eric can take that action, lisa may help
15:48:54 <Lisa> 318 318 4.5.6.4 More Details include reference to title that is not clear  Context of ‘Title’ is not clear. Recommend (per comment) text be changed from “titles” to “title attributes (HTML)” - this seems to  match the intended meaning. Change and add  reference to HTML
15:49:26 <Lisa> any objections
15:50:46 <Lisa> rain: say html titles and alternitve text
15:50:53 <Lisa> +1
15:50:57 <kirkwood> heading too?
15:51:01 <Eric_hind> +1
15:51:05 <tburtin> +1
15:51:08 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:51:21 <kirkwood> +1
15:53:18 <Rain> +1
15:53:20 <JustineP> +1
15:53:22 <Lisa> 317 Section 4 Design Guide Related User Story links  are missing number heading (e.g. Clear Operation but should be 3.1.2 Clear Operation) Links are missing number heading Update Section 4. Design guide to include number headings. Proposal : do not add more numbers by created user stories. It is fine without.  Send to list in email with a bunch of things that are low level   Draft reply to issue Some feedback has been that people find the document is t[CUT]
15:53:28 <Lisa> +1
15:53:32 <JustineP> +1
15:53:33 <Lisa> q?
15:53:33 <tburtin> +1
15:53:35 <Eric_hind> +1
15:53:38 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:53:40 <Lisa> any objections
15:54:12 <Lisa> can eric fix clear typos
15:54:14 <Lisa> +1
15:54:16 <tburtin> +1
15:54:17 <abbey> +1
15:54:19 <julierawe> +1
15:54:22 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:54:24 <Rain> +1 and a thank you!
15:54:28 <JustineP> +1
15:55:18 <Lisa> 306 Use Github action instead of Travis CI - we feel this is not our issue
15:55:23 <Lisa> any objections?
15:56:23 <Lisa> clear editoral issues like sentences  repepted
15:56:33 <Lisa> can eric just remove it?
15:56:34 <tburtin> +1
15:56:40 <Lisa> +1 with someone double checking
15:57:13 <Lisa> things that are aleready adressed -can we say thank you and close it ?
15:57:17 <Lisa> +1
15:57:19 <Eric_hind> +1
15:57:21 <Rain> +1
15:57:21 <tburtin> +1
15:57:23 <JustineP> +1
15:58:26 <Lisa> 305 Underserved users described as “High Potential”
15:58:37 <Lisa> Julieawr mentioned that High Potential might be best replaced.  Open discussion item as not clear if high potential infers high value to a business (e.g. CEO) or a m
15:58:45 <Rain> q+
15:59:02 <Lisa> defining it may be a can of worms
15:59:40 <Lisa> what we want to say, people who are stugling with increadible potential
16:00:47 <Lisa> q?
16:00:47 <tburtin> Instead of "high potential" could we instead simply use "users"?
16:00:59 <Rain> ack Rain
16:01:02 <Lisa> ack next
16:01:24 <julierawe> Thanks, everyone!
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