Meeting minutes
minutes review
<kaz> Aug-2
McCool: any objections to publish the minutes?
… no objections, approve to publish
Kaz: I'm OK with the minutes themselves, but we could apply the proposed policy for the minutes management quickly though the other policies would take longer.
quick updates
McCool: no quick updates
minutes policy
McCool: an email was sent about policy but doesn't include the minutes policy
<kaz> minutes policy
McCool: does anyone object to deciding the minutes policy?
McCool: the only thing missing is an execution clause
McCool: can Kaz commit to publishing the minutes by Friday?
Kaz: yes
<McCool> proposal: Adopt the policy proposal for publishing the minutes: https://
McCool: resolution to change the minutes policy
<sebastian> +1
RESOLUTION: Adopt the policy proposal for publishing the minutes: https://
McCool: anyone have any changes to the resolution or objections?
McCool: resolution passes
… implement starting next week
other proposed policies
<kaz> McCool's message
McCool: we will call for resolution on September 4th
Kaz: not sure if everyone understands all the policy changes, we should explain the policies
McCool: people will need to read the text carefully
Kaz: concerned that conducting this review asynchronously will violate the existing policy
Sebastian: we have been spending a lot of time on policy and don't want to take more time in TPAC
McCool: people can always object if they aren't clear
Kaz: the final decision to implement asynchronous decisions should not be made asynchronously
McCool: will look at some remaining PRs regarding the async process
… we have had a lot of discussion and announced the resolution on email but will have the resolution in person.
… we have been following the procedure
Kaz: we need to be careful to follow the decision policy specifically
PR #1005
<kaz> wot PR 1005 - Asynchronous Review Process for Specification Changes
<cris_> +1 for closing
McCool: this PR is obsolete and has been updated by Ege
Sebastian: the new one is more aligned with our thinking
… make a note referring to the other PR
McCool: any objections to closing?
Kaz: we should check with Ben to see if he is OK with the new PR
Sebastian: Ben has already reviewed this PR
Kaz: we should then record Ben's approval
McCool: will ask Ben to approve and ping by email
subtopoic: issue #1028
<kaz> wot issue 1028 - Asynchronous Review Process
McCool: the new PR should resolve this issue
… will ping Ben on this also
McCool: closed, people can reopen if needed
issue #1117, roles and responsibilities
McCool: please add comments and we will review
… Please add any issues we still need to discuss
<kaz> chairs roles
Kaz: we had a lot of discussion about chair roles that should be factored into this discussion
… a lot of the roles are defined in this resource
Asynchronous decision process
<kaz> async-decision.md
McCool: made small reorganizations to the policy draft
… we could clarify that this policy applies to task forces
… two editors can decide to merge PRs
cris: a minor issue is we don't link this in other documents
… could link to Ben Francis profile
McCool: will reopen and add comments to the closed issue #1028
Kaz: also wondering about the relationship between decision.md and asynchronousdecision.md
McCool: the copied text could become inconsistent and could link to the charter instead
McCool: please create an issue and we will follow up
schedule changes
McCool: Keio university has holidays and there are a lot of vacations through the end of August
… we should cancel next week and the 22/23 week
… can handle time-critical business like Press Release in the chairs call
… proposing cancel all meetings from 14th through 28th for next 3 weeks
… we could still have the TD call
… does anyone object?
Kaz: we should be careful about what is discussed during this period
McCool: we would announce by email and resolve on September 4th
… also have the testimonials and the press release
McCool: we still have a minor change on the PR and need to collect testimonials
Kaz: we should continue chairs calls
charter review status
<kaz> AC review form (Member-only)
McCool: the email has gone out and AC review started
… deadline is August 31
Kaz: AC review started August 3rd, please ask your AC rep to respond
publication
<kaz> WoT Architecture review results (Member-only)
<kaz> WoT Thing Description review results
<kaz> WoT Discovery review results
McCool: the good news is all of our documents have passed
Kaz: need to talk with some commenters still
McCool: there is one non-supporter pointing out an error that needs to be fixed
… there are some other errors that need to be fixed
… there is also a suggested change for the Architecture spec
Sebastian: sent email to resolve the non-supporting comment
Kaz: verified that we can remove the "atrisk" section
McCool: the other comment is about interoperability testing
McCool: maybe we need clarification in the implementation report
Kaz: will follow up with the commenters
McCool: nothing is blocked, we can do the fixes and publish
… we can make sure we get all the fixes in before we publish
ACTION: kaz to wrap up the Proposed REC review results
McCool: we should make the final call on September 4th to make sure everything is clean
Kaz: we need to consider the publication date for the press release
outstanding PRs on TD
<kaz> Aug-2 TD call - resolution 01
<sebastian> +1
McCool: chairs and editors can clean up the labels on these PRs
press release
McCool: review comment on the draft asking for a small clarification
McCool: will now start to gather testimonials
Sebastian: how much time do we have?
McCool: some will be easy to obtain
McCool: we can include as many testimonials as we want
Kaz: asking SDOs to provide testimonials also
McCool: suggest we ask for the testimonials by September 4th and allow more time if needed
Luca: can provide a testimonial if it's appropriate
McCool: OK with more testimonials
Kaz: please remember that testimonials can be added after the publication, if needed
McCool: we should have at least 4 to start
Sebastian: prefer to have all the testimonials at one time
TPAC planning
<kaz> WoT TPAC wiki
McCool: filled out the agenda but still have some questions
… do we need 1:15 for profiles?
… no slot for architecture
… could combine these
… also added outreach topic to gain more participating membership
… also added security and discovery
… TF meetings on September 4th should focus on TPAC planning
Kaz: at this time we should focus on TPAC, management policies, and use case management rather than technical features
… also pain points and potential refactoring
McCool: topic: liaison PR #1105
<kaz> wot PR 1105 - Overview of the potential development options about the OPC UA Bindings
Sebastian: the PR gives an overview of options for the OPC UA binding publication
McCool: to be clear, this is only about options for people to review
Kaz: would suggest we merge this and start the discussion, please add a clear title
<kaz> a/please/but please/
McCool: added title, any objections to merging?
… merged
McCool: AOB?
<kaz> (none)
McCool: adjourned