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13:04:22 <kaz> meeting: WoT Security
13:05:04 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Mahda_Noura
13:06:24 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:07:07 <kaz> scribenick: Kaz
13:07:10 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
13:07:31 <kaz> topic: Minutes
13:07:35 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/31-wot-sec-minutes.html July-31
13:07:40 <McCool> also, "chater" should be "charter"
13:08:42 <McCool> also dome -> some, alot -> a lot
13:09:02 <kaz> fixed
13:09:33 <kaz> and minutes approved
13:09:36 <kaz> topic: Logistics
13:10:06 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#7_August_2023
13:11:19 <kaz> (some discussion about the calls in August)
13:13:09 <kaz> mm: (updates the Cancellations section of the WoT wiki)
13:14:53 <kaz> ... Security calls will be cancelled for the rest of August; the next call will be on Sep 4
13:15:40 <kaz> ... meanwhile, we'll work on use cases offline, and discuss TPAC topics on Sep 4
13:17:38 <kaz> ... (updates the calendar entries too)
13:18:17 <kaz> ... btw, was working on IDs for security purposes
13:18:35 <kaz> s/for security purposes//
13:19:01 <kaz> ... using <ul> instead of table
13:19:37 <kaz> ... seems possible but kind of complicated
13:19:40 <kaz> q?
13:19:59 <kaz> ... will look into it, but not high-priority
13:20:14 <kaz> q+
13:21:09 <kaz> kaz: yeah, would be nicer for accessibility purposes, but could handle it later
13:21:41 <kaz> ack k
13:22:34 <kaz> i/btw/topic: Lists vs tables/
13:23:01 <kaz> i|btw|-> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13824918/how-to-style-my-unordered-list-like-a-table Stack Overflow entry|
13:25:09 <kaz> mm: (generates a list of topics to be done)
13:25:26 <kaz> ... create anchors for threats
13:25:30 <kaz> ... add DDOS
13:25:56 <kaz> q+
13:26:12 <kaz> topic: TPAC
13:26:25 <kaz> mm: will you attend TPAC, Mahda?
13:26:39 <kaz> mn: yes, in person
13:26:45 <kaz> mm: that's good
13:26:56 <kaz> q?
13:28:00 <kaz> topic: Basic surveys
13:28:32 <kaz> kaz: probably we should do yet another surveys for the recent lists of threats generated by external SDOs and alliances for WoT 2.0 standardization
13:28:35 <kaz> mm: yeah
13:29:30 <kaz> ... we could ask people to see our list of threats
13:29:47 <kaz> ... not sure about a short list to see, though
13:29:59 <kaz> .... could work on some questionnaire
13:30:14 <kaz> ... anyway, agree we need to do some more surveys
13:30:21 <kaz> s/..../.../
13:31:20 <kaz> ... regarding TPAC, we've not clarified items for Security and Privacy yet...
13:31:34 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda#Security_and_Privacy TPAC 2023 agenda - Security and Privacy
13:31:47 <kaz> mm: (adds some of the potential topics)
13:31:55 <kaz> ... duration 30 mins
13:32:19 <kaz> ... review threat models vs considerations
13:32:26 <kaz> ... review use cases and requirements
13:32:37 <kaz> ... proposed reorganizations
13:32:53 <kaz> ... would be done on Friday at 15:00-15:30
13:33:26 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:33:29 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:33:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:33:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/07-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz