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15:25:27 <Zakim> Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference
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15:26:46 <kevin> clear agenda
15:26:48 <George> present+
15:26:51 <kevin> agenda+ Scribe
15:27:12 <kevin> agenda+ Timing and use of meeting survey
15:27:24 <kevin> agenda+ Infoshare and coordination checks
15:28:14 <kevin> agenda+ I18N Issue WCAG 2.1
15:28:23 <kevin> agenda+ Publications check
15:28:28 <kevin> agenda+ AOB
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15:28:32 <kevin> agenda?
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15:32:52 <matatk> present+
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15:33:01 <shawn> present+
15:33:40 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:33:40 <Zakim> Present: George, matatk, shawn
15:33:40 <shawn> present+ Kevin, KrisAnne, Valerie
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15:33:45 <spectranaut_> scribe: spectranaut_
15:33:54 <shawn> present+ James
15:33:55 <kevin> zakim, close item 1
15:33:55 <Zakim> agendum 1, Scribe, closed
15:33:56 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:33:56 <Zakim> 2. Timing and use of meeting survey [from kevin]
15:34:09 <spectranaut_> zakim, next item
15:34:09 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Timing and use of meeting survey -- taken up [from kevin]
15:34:25 <shawn> present+ Tzviya
15:34:34 <shawn> present+ MaryJo
15:34:36 <spectranaut_> kevin: I sent an email survey, if you all could take a look
15:34:51 <kevin> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/105629/cadence-value/results Timing and use of coordination meeting
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15:35:11 <maryjom> present+
15:35:27 <spectranaut_> kevin: it is to get a sense of what people want from this meeting, so we can adjust as necessary
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15:35:38 <spectranaut_> zakim, next item
15:35:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Infoshare and coordination checks -- taken up [from kevin]
15:36:38 <spectranaut_> zakim, close this item
15:36:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
15:36:39 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:36:39 <Zakim> 4. I18N Issue WCAG 2.1 [from kevin]
15:36:43 <spectranaut_> zakim, next item
15:36:43 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- I18N Issue WCAG 2.1 -- taken up [from kevin]
15:37:28 <spectranaut_> kevin: an issue on the horizontal review on WCAG 2.1, does WCAG only cover english or all languages -- 148 and 1812
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15:37:34 <spectranaut_> kevin: long discussion already
15:37:40 <kevin> -> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680 Github issue on i18n
15:37:44 <George> q+
15:38:05 <spectranaut_> kevin: I need to have some discussion with the AG chairs, but any other thoughts?
15:38:05 <kevin> ack George
15:39:20 <spectranaut_> George: even the title of the issue is a bit aggressive. the publishing working group is very concerned about typography about how things look. We and daisy would not like to put together a formal objection based on this. Would like to find a way to get this resolved for japanese and double byte areas
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15:39:46 <spectranaut_> George: nekoto is one of the people at ISO working on this, he was the editor of the spec when some of these things when to ISO
15:39:57 <kevin> s/nekoto/Makoto/
15:40:01 <spectranaut_> George: we would to have to have ISO change the language in 2.2
15:40:46 <shawn> @MakotoUeki = AG Makoto
15:41:02 <shawn> murata2makoto  = EPUB
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15:41:32 <shawn> s/murata2makoto  = EPUB/murata2makoto  = EPUB & ISO
15:41:57 <spectranaut_> kevin: I'm interested in other thoughts here, richard ishida was encouraging some suggestions, had one in particular
15:42:02 <kevin> q?
15:43:19 <spectranaut_> kevin: next step is to raise with AG chairs, it will depend on what we do with WCAG 2.2, a normative change will push us back to CR
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15:44:10 <spectranaut_> George: they mention dyslexic fonts, seems like from the research dyslexic fonts don't actually help
15:44:55 <spectranaut_> kevin: I think the focus is japanese and chinese fonts or any font significantly different that english
15:45:09 <spectranaut_> George: I'll reply to makoto and say I brought this up
15:45:34 <spectranaut_> zakim, next item
15:45:34 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Publications check -- taken up [from kevin]
15:45:53 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts#Upcoming_Publications
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15:46:37 <spectranaut_> maryjom: on wcag to ict -- the CFC is suppose to complete today. there is one object on color contrast and promoting the requirement to non (???), but people have responded, should I respond with the history
15:46:42 <shawn> q+
15:46:58 <spectranaut_> maryjom: we didn't change the language in the note, it's from a previous publication
15:47:12 <kevin> ack shawn
15:47:16 <spectranaut_> shawn: I have not seen that but I'm sure  I know what it says
15:47:27 <spectranaut_> shawn: the AG chairs are doing a good job of addressing the person and that issue
15:47:35 <spectranaut_> from my perspective, you can leave it to them to address
15:47:48 <spectranaut_> s/from/shawn: from/
15:49:05 <spectranaut_> shawn: I was looking at the publication plan, which is the 15th
15:49:18 <spectranaut_> shawn: maryjom thanks for drafting the announcements
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15:49:50 <spectranaut_> shawn: with announcements in general, the chairs are welcome to review them, as a long as the primary subject matter expert can look and myself
15:50:04 <spectranaut_> shawn: so you don't need to review if you are busy
15:50:27 <spectranaut_> zakim, next item
15:50:27 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- AOB -- taken up [from kevin]
15:50:52 <spectranaut_> george: is there a place to get tech support for this IRC issue?
15:51:10 <spectranaut_> shawn: what client?
15:51:19 <jamesn> q+
15:51:22 <spectranaut_> george: with all clients, I've tried with edge and chrome, I'm using chatzilla
15:51:29 <spectranaut_> jamesn: have you tried a VPN?
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15:51:32 <spectranaut_> george: tup
15:51:39 <spectranaut_> s/tup/yup
15:52:06 <spectranaut_> jamesn: the only suggestion I have, is IRC cloud, should not kick your connection but I doubt it works well with screen readers
15:52:17 <spectranaut_> shawn: would be interesting to find out what other people are using that works
15:52:30 <spectranaut_> george: who is using spectrum?
15:52:38 <spectranaut_> shawn: I use spectrum
15:53:06 <kevin> https://thelounge.w3.org/
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15:54:09 <spectranaut_> shawn: how can we find out what other people use?
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15:56:26 <spectranaut_> RRSAgent: make minutes
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