W3C

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WoT-WG/IG

02 August 2023

Attendees

Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Mahda_Noura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Koster
Chair
McCool/Sebastian
Scribe
Ege, kaz

Meeting minutes

Minutes

McCool: we will review the minutes as usual

<kaz> (unfortunately, we didn't make the proposed policy for minutes a resolution, though)

<kaz> July-26

McCool: any changes you see?

McCool: any objections?

<kaz> (typo fixed)

McCool: minutes approved

Policies

<kaz> Proposed Policies

McCool: current PRs go into proposals directory

McCool: we would like to make them official
… would be good to do that before tpac

Kaz: OK with merging the initial proposals as a starting point for further discussion, but we should add draft on the title
… also it would be good to consolidate them into a single document to make the proposals inline with each other.

McCool: I would prefer to keep them separate
… but I am ok to add draft to titles

McCool: (adds "DRAFT" to the title of each proposed policy document)
… btw, what was the "IE included", which was discussed last week, about?
… related to the async decision policy?

Ege: yes I think so

Ege: We dont need to add draft if it is a proposal right?

McCool: sort of but we can do it later

Async Decision Policy

<kaz> wot PR 1108 - Asynchronous decision policy proposal

McCool: we should mention IEs

Sebastian: it is already done

Ege: I have already incorporated the feedback

McCool: we can table this since people had commented and reviews happened

McCool: any objections?

Dainel: style is different

McCool: I can change that quickly

McCool: we can merge and make them official in 3 weeks

Kaz: I am ok to merge this PR 1108 itself as a starting point and discuss later on before making them official

Kaz: also, IEs will have the same access rights as members so there should be a policy on how to choose IEs as well
… in addition, the execution of policies are very important. We should discuss these

Call for Resolutions

McCool: I will send an email about a call for resolution
… so that we can make these policies official

Meeting Schedule

McCool: there is holiday season approaching

McCool: which two weeks should we cancel?
… ege and sebastian has unavailabilities

Ege: we should understand when to reach resolutions on the REC track documents

Kaz: no group resolution needed for REC publication. The work is handled by the W3C Staff and also it is a W3C decision to proceed with REC publication

Sebastian: for td, we should check that the additional resources like ontologies are correct
… I am ok to cancel main call for 3 weeks, we should leave the TF meetings should be left to TF moderators

Kaz: Note that we were originally talking about summer vacation but now we're talking about publication schedule. If we really want to talk about the publication schedule, we should once wrap up the vacation discussion and then start to talk about publication schedule.

McCool: I propose to cancel the meetings weeks of august 21st and august 27th

New Charter

Kaz: I am talking with MarComm about the procedure

McCool: in this case, we will have a small gap between end of september and around 4th of October

Kaz: We've already got extension by the end of September. Also the actual AC Review should be able to get started by the end of this week or early next week at the latest.

Sebastian: why is the process getting delayed? I need to explain to my management

Kaz: due to process change, there are unclear parts, but as already mentioned, AC Review form and review request have been already generated, and actual review to start shortly.

McCool: we can talk offline

TPAC Planning

TPAC 2023 WoT Agenda wiki

McCool: our slots are confirmed and written in Wiki

Ege: there are breaks announced by W3C

Ege: I think it would be better to start right after the break to allow others joining to catch up

McCool: we can do easy things in shorter sessions

Sebastian: TAG is also requesting a slot

McCool: we should have a slot about use cases not at the end

Ege: we should have use case and requirements process, not new use cases

McCool: we can arrange it

Ege: We will talk in the TD call to finalize the TD topics
… with Koster we spoke and decided to prioritize topics that benefit from a wider input\

Kaz: We should have a quick wrap-up for the final slot. On the other hand, the "New Use Cases" should be rather called "Industry Use Cases" or "Commercial Use Cases" to see further deployment of the WoT standards within the real business.

Ege: we should clarify what we mean by industry use cases but I think we agree on it, just a wording issue

Publications

McCool: we have 18 supporters for discovery now

Ege: Luca will have a look

Kaz: If you want, I can send a reminder to related AC Reps.

McCool: Yes, please.

McCool: anything on the notes?

Kaz: not yet. will work on them right after finalizing the Charter procedure.

Press Release

McCool: we have sent the review request to marcomm

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md

Kaz: we should do review of press release narrative as the whole WoT WG.

McCool: we will do this over github

Kaz: We should have summary discussion during the main call as well.

McCool: can do that too.

Bug fix for TD

PR 1843

wot-thing-description PR 1843 - Fix well known operation types only

Ege: Luca found this error on the description

diff for "5.3.4.2 Form"

"operations types MUST be restricted"

Ege: there are no changes to the intention, we were testing like that already

McCool: you are increasing the level of assertion

McCool: we should have director approval to do this change

<McCool> proposal: WoT WG will ask the W3C Director for approval to make the changes labelled "Changes to PR HTML" to correct editorial issues (no implementation changes needed) in the WoT TD 1.1 Proposed Recommendation before going to REC.

RESOLUTION: WoT WG will ask the W3C Director for approval to make the changes labelled "Changes to PR HTML" to correct editorial issues (no implementation changes needed) in the WoT TD 1.1 Proposed Recommendation before going to REC.

Kaz: So we need to pick up PRs which have impact to TD spec's index.html from the PRs with "by REC publication" on wot-thing-description repository. Right?

PRs with "by REC publication" label

McCool: Right.

[adjourned]

Summary of resolutions

  1. WoT WG will ask the W3C Director for approval to make the changes labelled "Changes to PR HTML" to correct editorial issues (no implementation changes needed) in the WoT TD 1.1 Proposed Recommendation before going to REC.
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).