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14:33:39 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Helixopp_
14:33:59 <Helixopp_> meeting: Maturity Model
14:35:42 <Helixopp_> Agenda+ New Business
14:35:57 <Helixopp_> Agenda+ Update on Cover Sheet of Changes
14:36:21 <Helixopp_> Agenda+  Update on Wiki
14:36:37 <Helixopp_> Agenda+ Update on Adding Spreadsheet to Github
14:37:02 <Helixopp_> Agenda+ Overall Github Update
14:43:05 <Helixopp_> +1
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15:07:09 <CharlesL> present+
15:08:25 <IrfanA> agenda?
15:10:14 <nadine> present+
15:10:17 <CharlesL> present+ Janina
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15:11:04 <kline> present+
15:11:20 <CharlesL> scribe: kline
15:11:21 <Helixopp_> scribe+ kline
15:11:44 <Helixopp_> helixopp talking nonsense
15:12:26 <kline> Helixopp_: talking nonsense
15:12:51 <Helixopp_> zakim, next item
15:12:51 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Helixopp_]
15:13:01 <kline> hakim, next item
15:13:14 <kline> zakim next item
15:14:05 <Helixopp_> janina: apa charter approved
15:15:13 <kline> Helixopp_: need to discuss the CPAAC presentation
15:15:20 <CharlesL> s/CPAAC/TPAC
15:16:24 <kline> Helixopp_: someone needs to put the slide deck together....
15:16:57 <kline> CharlesL: sections on status updates,
15:17:24 <kline> Helixopp_: why AMM is superior to other ones in the industry
15:18:10 <kline> Janina: will discuss turning the spreadsheet to a web form
15:18:42 <kline> Helixopp_: hope to have final next year
15:20:07 <kline> CharlesL: at TPAC idea to look for other groups to participate in the work effort
15:20:47 <kline> CharlesL: encourage them to try the model
15:21:00 <CharlesL> scribe+
15:21:21 <CharlesL> kline: Once you get industry involved they start to push their own agenda so we need to be careful.
15:21:49 <CharlesL> Helixopp_: Yeah thats part of being a member of the W3C.
15:22:19 <CharlesL> kline: can we solicit in a limited way.
15:22:50 <CharlesL> Janina: we have a code of ethics to handle this.  Objections go a very long way, we work for consensus.
15:23:12 <CharlesL> Helixopp_: we are stuarts of the model.
15:24:04 <kline> Helixopp_: the model is a good example of compromise
15:25:23 <CharlesL> kline: in the past items were added without going through github issues.
15:25:35 <kline> Helixopp_: issues are addressed after publishing
15:27:25 <kline>  github is always avaible
15:30:19 <kline> discussion about how to provide input to the group for edits
15:34:05 <kline> discussion about how input gets added outside of github
15:35:07 <kline> CharlesL: items being entered outside of GitHub by wg members
15:39:01 <kline> janina: need to talk about process and being minuted vs GitHub entries
15:40:27 <kline> CharlesL: if something  that is included is doubtful, then we can revisit
15:41:47 <kline> CharlesL:  everything gets looked at / /aproved by editors,  etc
15:42:47 <kline> janina: how to handle  editorial vs substantive  changes
15:43:27 <Helixopp_> zakim, next item
15:43:28 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Update on Cover Sheet of Changes -- taken up [from Helixopp_]
15:43:34 <kline> zakim, next item
15:43:34 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, kline
15:44:49 <kline> CharlesL: cover sheet changes update
15:45:48 <kline> CharlesL: takes the team through the changes to the cover sheet.
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15:48:55 <kline_> CharlesL: pull request to submit changes to the main document link
15:49:12 <kline_> scribe+
15:49:51 <Helixopp_> zakim, next itemzakim, next item
15:49:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next itemzakim, next item', Helixopp_
15:50:08 <Helixopp_> zakim, next item
15:50:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Update on Wiki -- taken up [from Helixopp_]
15:51:02 <kline_> CharlesL: need roy's help to coordinate the method of integrating the spreadsheet
15:52:50 <Helixopp_> zakim, next item
15:52:51 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Update on Adding Spreadsheet to Github -- taken up [from Helixopp_]
15:52:59 <kline_> janina: usage of Wiki and is frequency of use
15:53:01 <CharlesL>  there is a pull request for th
15:53:13 <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/pull/171
15:53:21 <Helixopp_> zakim, next item
15:53:21 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Helixopp_
15:53:37 <Helixopp_> zakim, close item
15:53:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Helixopp_
15:53:43 <CharlesL> zakim, close this item
15:53:43 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
15:53:44 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:53:44 <Zakim> 5. Overall Github Update [from Helixopp_]
15:53:54 <kline_> zakim, next item
15:53:54 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Overall Github Update -- taken up [from Helixopp_]
15:54:17 <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/pull/170
15:54:42 <kline_> CharlesL: pull request adding self to contributor / editor of the document
15:55:06 <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/pull/166
15:56:02 <kline_> CharlesL: last pull request #166to add in roles / tables / appendix
15:57:31 <kline_> Helixopp_: what is still needed before we can publish ?
15:58:01 <kline_> CharlesL: work with roy to ensure correct linkage from the doc to the spreadsheet.
15:59:49 <kline_> janina:discussion on the logisitics of the Wiki and relationship to github
16:01:16 <CharlesL> Charles will be meeting with Customer Support here at Benetech to start filling out the spreadsheet. will file any issues found with github.
16:01:23 <kline_> Helixopp_: wrap up  and todos
16:01:34 <kline_> hakim,end meeting
16:01:58 <kline_> hakim, end meeting
16:02:19 <kline_> zakim, end meeting
16:02:19 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been IrfanA, CharlesL, nadine, Janina, kline
16:02:21 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:02:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/02-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
16:02:29 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, kline_; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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