IRC log of apa on 2023-08-02
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
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- meeting: APA Weekly Telecon
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- Chair: Matthew
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- agenda+ APA Charter approved - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/
- 14:01:59 [matatk]
- agenda+ TPAC 2023 planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
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- agenda+ New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+ Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
- 14:02:07 [matatk]
- agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
- 14:02:10 [matatk]
- agenda+ New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
- 14:02:15 [matatk]
- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action et al
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- agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
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- agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ Be done
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+ Janina, Roy
- 14:04:02 [matatk]
- present+ Janina
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/02-apa-minutes.html matatk
- 14:06:02 [mike_beganyi]
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- present+
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- scribe+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
- 14:08:46 [Helixopp]
- present+
- 14:09:09 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: without any updates, can close this
- 14:09:37 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: Jason has converted issues to GH repository. some will end up in MAUR refresh.
- 14:10:08 [matatk]
- s/issues relating to MEIG to GH/
- 14:10:18 [Helixopp]
- We, Helix Opportunity, are beginning our 2nd Digital Accessibility Developer Apprenticeship Cohort on August 14, 2023
- 14:10:33 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: MAUR - Media Accessibility User Requirements
- 14:10:47 [matatk]
- MAUR: https://www.w3.org/TR/media-accessibility-reqs/
- 14:11:38 [matatk]
- MEIG = Media and Entertainment Interest Group - https://www.w3.org/groups/ig/me/
- 14:15:04 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: as @helixopp said above, bringing in the new cohort
- 14:15:04 [gb]
- https://github.com/helixopp -> @helixopp
- 14:15:57 [mike_beganyi]
- Helixopp: intense digital learning in the apprenticeship, all participants have disabilities and softwar eengineering background. trying to pair working professionals with on-the-job training
- 14:16:36 [mike_beganyi]
- Helixopp: scalability is a focal point, 10 people at a time in each cohort
- 14:17:02 [Helixopp]
- https://helixopp.com/organizational-development/#apprenticeships
- 14:17:07 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: brainstorm at some point how to get candidate projects in through APA, a discussion to be had
- 14:18:41 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: in AGWG, different challenges would need to be covered in Silver, some which could benefit from further engineering (browser exntesions, coding, etc.). these types of things could be valuable considering the spectrum of such candidate projects
- 14:18:56 [mike_beganyi]
- Helixopp: come up with project and apply for a grant to cover wages for apprentice and colleagues
- 14:19:29 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- APA Charter approved - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/ -- taken up [from matatk]
- 14:20:13 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: charter approved until July 2025!
- 14:20:13 [Roy]
- https://www.w3.org/2023/07/apa-wg-charter
- 14:20:38 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: would encourage all to read through and see what you might be able to contribute to
- 14:21:51 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from matatk]
- 14:22:53 [Helixopp]
- verified credentials???
- 14:23:04 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: haven't put the times in Wiki but we have a few things scheduled: MEIG, ARIA, and Web of Things
- 14:23:18 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: nothing planned with Verifiable Credentials at the moment
- 14:23:56 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: let us know if there's anything missing
- 14:24:49 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: encouraging all task forces to submit a breakout session to discuss work they do
- 14:25:12 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: breakouts can be public. held on Wednesday afternoon. great opportunity to speak about work
- 14:25:51 [Helixopp]
- eh, we've done 2
- 14:27:37 [Nichole]
- We have one as well; Design Tokens for Accessibility Settings: Empowering Inclusive Design with CSS .
- 14:28:21 [matatk]
- https://github.com/w3c/tpac2023-breakouts/issues/10
- 14:28:53 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
- 14:29:09 [Roy]
- subtopic: Solid Working Group Charter
- 14:29:09 [Roy]
- - charter: https://solid.github.io/solid-wg-charter/charter/
- 14:29:09 [Roy]
- - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/377
- 14:29:55 [mike_beganyi]
- Roy: new WG. define concept of storage to give priority to individual and community autonomy. allow jurisdiction over their data.
- 14:31:11 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: looking at the spec. has rather comprehensive a11y considerations section. nice that they've acknowledged a11y. I don't have concerns about the charter itself. we will see the protocol spec separately
- 14:31:17 [mike_beganyi]
- Roy: agree
- 14:31:35 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: any objections from anyone to sign off on this?
- 14:32:03 [mike_beganyi]
- Roy: can sign off on this, yes. no objections from anyone.
- 14:32:04 [Roy]
- subtopic: Web Performance rechartering
- 14:32:05 [Roy]
- - charter: https://www.w3.org/2023/07/webperf.html
- 14:32:05 [Roy]
- - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/371
- 14:32:30 [mike_beganyi]
- Roy: comes from Web Performance Working Group.
- 14:32:54 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: met them last year. they seemed excited and we didn't follow up like we should have. still think we should follow through on this
- 14:33:04 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: they were interested in working with us
- 14:34:02 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: let's sign off on this
- 14:34:04 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: agree
- 14:34:09 [Roy]
- subtopic: PNG WG recharter
- 14:34:10 [Roy]
- - charter: https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2023/png-2023.html
- 14:34:10 [Roy]
- - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/419
- 14:34:52 [mike_beganyi]
- Roy: no concerns about a11y here
- 14:35:34 [matatk]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Portable_Network_Graphics_(PNG)_Specification_(Third_Edition)
- 14:35:49 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: we signed off on this
- 14:36:02 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: no concerns about current charter
- 14:36:40 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, next item
- 14:36:41 [Zakim]
- agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
- 14:37:18 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: don't think we have any new ones. still need to do an a11y considerations section for another spec
- 14:37:55 [mike_beganyi]
- Roy: no new requests for review
- 14:38:05 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 5 closed
- 14:38:06 [Zakim]
- I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:38:06 [Zakim]
- 6. A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from matatk]
- 14:38:11 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
- 14:38:45 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: many remaining issues that we need to get through
- 14:40:56 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: the issue is called disallow interactive content in summary element
- 14:42:29 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: Paul indicates that summary is an unusual element which can contain many things. since summary is interactive, cannot have interactive children within. we should just say we cna't have focusable content inside a summary element
- 14:42:53 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: can turn interactivity off using inert or aria-hidden and render it non-interactive and thus eligible to be placed inside the summary element
- 14:43:23 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: agree with these comments. our position has been articulated and we can keep tracking this moving forward. no need to have it pending
- 14:43:43 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: we don't need to revisit this
- 14:43:55 [Helixopp]
- +1
- 14:44:27 [Helixopp]
- Focusable elements in summary may have COGA benefit
- 14:46:03 [matatk]
- subtopic: Popover invoker example shouldn't have aria-haspopup #159
- 14:46:04 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/159 -> Issue 159 §3.8 user need 10 add real-time text [RAUR] (by gunnarhm) [RAUR]
- 14:46:10 [matatk]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/159
- 14:47:21 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: I suggest we close this issue on our end
- 14:49:11 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: can send details of summary element to the list and have a discussion there
- 14:50:37 [mike_beganyi]
- matatk: any new work in TFs we need to cover?
- 14:53:32 [mike_beganyi]
- zakim, close this item
- 14:53:32 [Zakim]
- agendum 6 closed
- 14:53:33 [Zakim]
- I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 7. New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from matatk]
- 14:53:35 [mike_beganyi]
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/02-apa-minutes.html mike_beganyi
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been matatk, Nichole, Janina, Roy, mike_beganyi, Helixopp
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