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14:01:29 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
14:01:43 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Telecon
14:01:59 <matatk> Chair:  Matthew
14:01:59 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
14:01:59 <matatk> agenda+ APA Charter approved - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/
14:01:59 <matatk> agenda+ TPAC 2023 planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
14:02:01 <matatk> agenda+ New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
14:02:04 <matatk> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
14:02:07 <matatk> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
14:02:10 <matatk> agenda+ New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
14:02:13 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
14:02:15 <matatk> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action et al
14:02:18 <matatk> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
14:02:21 <matatk> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
14:02:23 <matatk> agenda+ Other Business
14:02:26 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
14:02:33 <matatk> agenda?
14:03:37 <matatk> present+
14:03:50 <Nichole> Nichole has joined #apa
14:03:58 <Nichole> present+
14:03:59 <Roy> present+ Janina, Roy
14:04:02 <matatk> present+ Janina
14:04:12 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:04:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/02-apa-minutes.html matatk
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14:06:06 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:08:17 <mike_beganyi> scribe+
14:08:32 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:08:32 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
14:08:46 <Helixopp> present+
14:09:09 <mike_beganyi> matatk: without any updates, can close this
14:09:37 <mike_beganyi> janina: Jason has converted issues to GH repository. some will end up in MAUR refresh.
14:10:08 <matatk> s/issues relating to MEIG to GH/
14:10:18 <Helixopp> We, Helix Opportunity, are beginning our 2nd Digital Accessibility Developer Apprenticeship Cohort on August 14, 2023
14:10:33 <mike_beganyi> janina: MAUR - Media Accessibility User Requirements
14:10:47 <matatk> MAUR: https://www.w3.org/TR/media-accessibility-reqs/
14:11:38 <matatk> MEIG = Media and Entertainment Interest Group - https://www.w3.org/groups/ig/me/
14:15:04 <mike_beganyi> matatk: as @helixopp said above, bringing in the new cohort
14:15:04 <gb> https://github.com/helixopp -> @helixopp
14:15:57 <mike_beganyi> Helixopp: intense digital learning in the apprenticeship, all participants have disabilities and softwar eengineering background. trying to pair working professionals with on-the-job training
14:16:36 <mike_beganyi> Helixopp: scalability is a focal point, 10 people at a time in each cohort
14:17:02 <Helixopp> https://helixopp.com/organizational-development/#apprenticeships
14:17:07 <mike_beganyi> janina: brainstorm at some point how to get candidate projects in through APA, a discussion to be had
14:18:41 <mike_beganyi> janina: in AGWG, different challenges would need to be covered in Silver, some which could benefit from further engineering (browser exntesions, coding, etc.). these types of things could be valuable considering the spectrum of such candidate projects
14:18:56 <mike_beganyi> Helixopp: come up with project and apply for a grant to cover wages for apprentice and colleagues
14:19:29 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:19:30 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- APA Charter approved - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/ -- taken up [from matatk]
14:20:13 <mike_beganyi> matatk: charter approved until July 2025!
14:20:13 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/apa-wg-charter
14:20:38 <mike_beganyi> matatk: would encourage all to read through and see what you might be able to contribute to
14:21:51 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:21:51 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:22:53 <Helixopp> verified credentials???
14:23:04 <mike_beganyi> matatk: haven't put the times in Wiki but we have a few things scheduled: MEIG, ARIA, and Web of Things
14:23:18 <mike_beganyi> matatk: nothing planned with Verifiable Credentials at the moment
14:23:56 <mike_beganyi> matatk: let us know if there's anything missing
14:24:49 <mike_beganyi> matatk: encouraging all task forces to submit a breakout session to discuss work they do
14:25:12 <mike_beganyi> matatk: breakouts can be public. held on Wednesday afternoon. great opportunity to speak about work
14:25:51 <Helixopp> eh, we've done 2
14:27:37 <Nichole> We have one as well; Design Tokens for Accessibility Settings: Empowering Inclusive Design with CSS .
14:28:21 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2023-breakouts/issues/10
14:28:53 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:28:53 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:29:09 <Roy> subtopic: Solid Working Group Charter
14:29:09 <Roy> - charter: https://solid.github.io/solid-wg-charter/charter/
14:29:09 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/377
14:29:55 <mike_beganyi> Roy: new WG. define concept of storage to give priority to individual and community autonomy. allow jurisdiction over their data.
14:31:11 <mike_beganyi> matatk: looking at the spec. has rather comprehensive a11y considerations section. nice that they've acknowledged a11y. I don't have concerns about the charter itself. we will see the protocol spec separately
14:31:17 <mike_beganyi> Roy: agree
14:31:35 <mike_beganyi> matatk: any objections from anyone to sign off on this?
14:32:03 <mike_beganyi> Roy: can sign off on this, yes. no objections from anyone.
14:32:04 <Roy> subtopic: Web Performance rechartering
14:32:05 <Roy> - charter: https://www.w3.org/2023/07/webperf.html
14:32:05 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/371
14:32:30 <mike_beganyi> Roy: comes from Web Performance Working Group.
14:32:54 <mike_beganyi> janina: met them last year. they seemed excited and we didn't follow up like we should have. still think we should follow through on this
14:33:04 <mike_beganyi> janina: they were interested in working with us
14:34:02 <mike_beganyi> janina: let's sign off on this
14:34:04 <mike_beganyi> matatk: agree
14:34:09 <Roy> subtopic: PNG WG recharter
14:34:10 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2023/png-2023.html
14:34:10 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/419
14:34:52 <mike_beganyi> Roy: no concerns about a11y here
14:35:34 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Portable_Network_Graphics_(PNG)_Specification_(Third_Edition)
14:35:49 <mike_beganyi> matatk: we signed off on this
14:36:02 <mike_beganyi> matatk: no concerns about current charter
14:36:40 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:36:41 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
14:37:18 <mike_beganyi> matatk: don't think we have any new ones. still need to do an a11y considerations section for another spec
14:37:55 <mike_beganyi> Roy: no new requests for review
14:38:05 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:38:05 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:38:06 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:38:06 <Zakim> 6. A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from matatk]
14:38:11 <mike_beganyi> zakim, next item
14:38:11 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
14:38:45 <mike_beganyi> matatk: many remaining issues that we need to get through
14:40:56 <mike_beganyi> matatk: the issue is called disallow interactive content in summary element
14:42:29 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Paul indicates that summary is an unusual element which can contain many things. since summary is interactive, cannot have interactive children within. we should just say we cna't have focusable content inside a summary element
14:42:53 <mike_beganyi> matatk: can turn interactivity off using inert or aria-hidden and render it non-interactive and thus eligible to be placed inside the summary element
14:43:23 <mike_beganyi> matatk: agree with these comments. our position has been articulated and we can keep tracking this moving forward. no need to have it pending
14:43:43 <mike_beganyi> matatk: we don't need to revisit this
14:43:55 <Helixopp> +1
14:44:27 <Helixopp> Focusable elements in summary may have COGA benefit
14:46:03 <matatk> subtopic:  Popover invoker example shouldn't have aria-haspopup #159
14:46:04 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/159 -> Issue 159 §3.8 user need 10 add real-time text [RAUR] (by gunnarhm) [RAUR]
14:46:10 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/159
14:47:21 <mike_beganyi> matatk: I suggest we close this issue on our end
14:49:11 <mike_beganyi> matatk: can send details of summary element to the list and have a discussion there
14:50:37 <mike_beganyi> matatk: any new work in TFs we need to cover?
14:53:32 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:53:32 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
14:53:33 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:53:33 <Zakim> 7. New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from matatk]
14:53:35 <mike_beganyi> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/02-apa-minutes.html mike_beganyi
14:53:54 <mike_beganyi> zakim, bye
14:53:54 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been matatk, Nichole, Janina, Roy, mike_beganyi, Helixopp
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