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Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:45:19 rrsagent, make minutes 17:45:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/01-aria-apg-minutes.html Jem 17:46:00 rrsagent, make log public 17:46:30 Meeting: ARIA Authoring Practice Guides 17:46:44 chair:Jemma_Ku 17:47:09 rrsagent, make minutes 17:47:10 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/01-aria-apg-minutes.html Jem 17:58:33 agenda+ setup and review agenda 17:58:43 agenda+ Status of Site Updates 17:59:02 agenda+ Pull Request Reviews 17:59:13 agenda+ Roadmap for rest of 2003 17:59:27 agenda+ New Issue Action Planning 17:59:36 agenda? 17:59:41 zakim, agenda? 17:59:57 Matt_King has joined #aria-apg 18:00:18 agenda? 18:01:08 jongund has joined #aria-apg 18:02:36 present+ Matt_king 18:02:45 present+ jongund 18:02:57 present+ 18:02:59 howard-e has joined #aria-apg 18:03:19 present+ 18:04:00 andrea_cardona_ has joined #aria-apg 18:04:06 present+ 18:04:08 scribe: jongund 18:05:09 siri has joined #aria-apg 18:05:13 CurtBellew has joined #aria-apg 18:05:13 zakim, next topic 18:05:26 TOPIC: Updates 18:05:53 JK: Site updates, PR by howard 18:06:35 Howard: Publication has happened about 2 hours ago, it seems to be working 18:06:49 MK: There were some changes to colors, I am doing some testing 18:07:28 MK: Can people go through the site, background colors on landmark pages... 18:08:04 JK: I have checked background colors of landmarks, what is the scope of the changes 18:08:14 MK: We can walk through the list right now 18:08:38 MK: SkipTo has been updated 18:09:03 listing PR that are included in update 18:09:09 PR2729 18:09:17 PR2733 18:09:25 PR2736 18:09:46 JG: I can look at SkipTo 18:10:32 JK: PR2750 18:10:48 MK: You looked at the production pages today? 18:11:20 MK: We need to check the production website, not just preview 18:12:01 Topic: Pull request reviews 18:12:17 PR2672 18:12:59 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622 18:13:19 MK: Who is doing code and test review? 18:13:39 AC: I did code review along time ago, but I can do it again 18:14:04 MK: The most recent changes are fixing a broken regression test 18:14:13 MK: Andrea can you test again 18:14:21 AC: Yes 18:15:05 TOPIC: PR 2723 18:15:28 Select-only Combobox Example: Fix scroll event listener bug 18:16:08 MK: We are now at the point, there are trhree tests functional, code and test... 18:16:29 MK: Both this and the previous PR, can we test the scroll behaviors 18:16:57 MK: We talked about it a few weeks ago, but add it as a separate issue 18:17:32 AC: How would you do an infinite scroll example, in this PR or a separate PR 18:17:56 AC: One concern is an infinite scrool example? 18:18:17 MK: Including in the regression tests and test that checks scroll behavior 18:18:45 MK: We want to see if the scroll works with active descendants 18:19:34 JG: I think I said I would look as how to do the scrolling test on listbox examples using active descendant 18:19:50 MK: I am going to raise an issue for testing scroll behvaior 18:20:39 MK: We won't require this test for this pull request, is valarie going to be able to review? 18:20:59 MK: We need reviews on function, code and tests 18:21:18 present+ 18:21:19 MK: I asked Valarie to re-review it 18:22:45 JK: She suggested the code and we implemented it, what does she need to do 18:23:02 MK: I am asking Valarie to re-review 18:23:38 TOPIC: Add guidance for mark role #2753 18:23:54 MK: I added it to the table and name is prohibited 18:24:14 MK James can you look at this one? 18:24:18 JN: Yes 18:24:54 TOPIC: Roadmap 18:25:09 JK: We have 4 months left on roadmap 18:25:21 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/milestone/19 18:26:47 MK: Update ob feed example 18:26:59 MK: I will work on 1262 18:27:21 MK: Rating slider is not a good pattern, JG can you do this? 18:27:27 JG: I will look at it 18:30:26 MK: Andrea will work on updating PR page 18:30:42 MK: JG can you look at the contributing page? 18:30:46 JG: Yes 18:31:45 MK: We need stuff for annotations, for aria-details 18:32:00 JN: aria-braillelabel is 1.3 18:32:11 JN: Checking 18:32:24 JN: None of the braille ones are 1.2 18:32:59 MK: I am not really sure, if we want to put in naming and labeling 18:33:17 JN: We want lot's of warnings on you should be an expert 18:33:39 MK: I am going to take ownership of the braille ones 18:33:58 MK: Term and definition no longer support author naming 18:34:15 MK: Is this a 1.3 change? 18:34:30 JN: We prohibit label on a bunch of stuff 18:34:51 MK: I will take ownership of this one, details, suggestion... 18:35:01 JN: annotation work 18:35:45 MK: I thik we should have... , there a need for plan here, the annotation stuff belongs togther some place 18:36:17 MK: creating some type of pattern that uses these things, or do both 18:36:37 MK: Are there any patterns we should present that use the annotation roles? 18:37:28 JN: AL has some examples, but we want to go further 18:37:45 MK: Does anyone have a pattern example? 18:38:04 JK: AL has code pen examples 18:38:17 https://codepen.io/aleventhal/full/VxByVK 18:38:20 MK: SHould we add something to the patterns page? 18:38:59 MK: I don't think there is a comment pattern 18:39:19 JK: I am looking at the source code from AL example 18:39:38 JN: What are you looking for? 18:40:09 JK: I am checking his annotations example 18:40:39 MK: We have an editor toolbar, but nobody is looking for an annotation pattern 18:40:59 JN: we need example of how this works 18:43:37 MK: We have three issues here 18:43:51 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DYrsHDk6Y9071A1fRg8g8NZ_DtGYraX5BcVY-taBzMQ/edit 18:43:55 MK: What is the time line for PR 18:44:40 JN: The PR will probably be next summer 18:45:00 MK: I am going to take the TODO for these issues 18:45:21 MK: I think we can do this before ARIA 1.3 goes to PR 18:46:30 MK: I want to see if we can make progess by the end of the year 18:47:18 MK: We are starting to get more people from outside the working group participating 18:47:24 TOPIC: New actions 18:48:18 JK: 2751 on auto rotating image example, has anyone been able to replicate this issue 18:48:54 MK: ANyone want to test? 18:49:03 JK: Siri can you test? 18:49:22 SG: What is the time line? 18:49:36 MK: Is it a VO bug or a browser bug? 18:50:21 Issue 2743 18:50:21 Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel. 18:50:52 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2743 18:51:17 MK: The list of options empty, but you can't focus it 18:51:46 MK: Is it legal to have an empty listbox? 18:51:54 MK: What should happen 18:52:48 JN: We haven't made those changes, we are changing the requirements so the wording is going to change 18:53:25 JN: "Allowed:" roles, rather than "required" 18:53:49 MK: You don't require children 18:54:36 jamesn has joined #aria-apg 18:54:48 https://w3c.github.io/aria/#mustContain 18:56:06 JN: They still have required parents, but containers can be empty 18:56:21 MK: Then this issue goes away 18:56:53 zakim, draft minutes 18:57:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 18:57:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/01-aria-apg-minutes.html jongund 19:30:22 jongund has joined #aria-apg 20:48:05 jongund has joined #aria-apg 20:57:47 jongund has joined #aria-apg 22:34:57 jongund has joined #aria-apg 23:02:02 jongund has joined #aria-apg