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13:07:21 <Sharon> zakim, start meeting
13:07:21 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
13:07:22 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Sharon
13:07:48 <Sharon> meeting: APA WAI-Adapt Task Force Meeting 17 Jul 2023
13:07:59 <Sharon> chair: Sharon
13:08:08 <Sharon> agenda?
13:10:15 <Sharon> agenda+ Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240
13:10:27 <Sharon> agenda+ TPAC prep (break-out, hand-out, authoring tool) - https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/
13:10:42 <Sharon> agenda+ A11y4Children follow-ups
13:11:01 <Sharon> agenda+ Demo page that can be printed out as a one-pager
13:11:12 <Sharon> agenda+ Track "Adapt dash" WHATWG
13:11:26 <Sharon> status, https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9084
13:11:39 <Sharon> agenda+ Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis
13:11:51 <Sharon> agenda+ Review open issues
13:12:01 <Sharon> agenda+ Registry update
13:12:12 <Sharon> agenda+ Test to show rendering symbols do not 'break' existing pages
13:12:26 <Sharon> agenda+ Recruiting
13:12:40 <Sharon> agenda+ Symbol Module Implementations
13:12:57 <Sharon> agenda+ User Agents and Symbols (e.g. Immersive Reader)
13:13:41 <Sharon> agenda?
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14:00:45 <matatk> present+
14:00:48 <matatk> agenda?
14:07:07 <matatk> scribe: matatk
14:07:11 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:07:11 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -- taken up [from Sharon]
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14:07:47 <janina> present+
14:08:20 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:08:20 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:08:21 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:08:21 <Zakim> 2. TPAC prep (break-out, hand-out, authoring tool) - https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/ [from Sharon]
14:08:22 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:08:23 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC prep (break-out, hand-out, authoring tool) - https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/ -- taken up [from Sharon]
14:09:23 <matatk> janina: We need the hand out so that people "get it"
14:09:37 <matatk> ... [people being developers, UA vendors, etc.]
14:10:42 <matatk> janina: We could apply a similar approach to things like sign language in future?
14:11:12 <matatk> ... Now there's a way to support a population who have not been able to access web content.
14:13:13 <matatk> matatk: We need to decide on an example text; a design; and then make it happen!
14:13:54 <matatk> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-adapt/2023Jul/0004.html
14:14:00 <matatk> ^ email from Janina on AAC handout
14:20:06 <matatk> matatk: This is a great approach; to talk about the need for the work. I think we should do it more generally, not _just_ about Chatper titles, but like the approach.
14:20:41 <matatk> janina: [notes the section about how (not) to do it, and the suitability of the example because this is about marking up something that is not too dense with information]
14:20:51 <matatk> Sharon: What if people have not come across AAC before?
14:21:04 <matatk> janina: They'll see it on the brochure, as an example.
14:21:41 <matatk> Sharon: Next steps on this?
14:22:09 <matatk> janina: To see if we can generalize the start of the first part of the draft. Agree should be a bit more general.
14:22:38 <matatk> ... Chapters in media is a great use case for when we meet WHATWG, for example.
14:23:38 <matatk> janina: I'll send E. A. Draffan an email about this (noting the first sentence is perhaps too specific); will ask for general guidance on the rest.
14:25:07 <matatk> matatk: For design, suggest double-sided; one set of symbols on each side. Same text on both.
14:38:15 <matatk> subtopic: break-out
14:39:27 <matatk> matatk: Been working on break-out slides to update what we had. Aiming to be more story-oriented.
14:40:01 <matatk> janina: We should include a11y for Children use cases too.
14:42:00 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2023-breakouts
14:42:08 <matatk> matatk: Need to get in as quickly as we can.
14:42:55 <matatk> janina: The a11y for Children work brings back some of the back-burner things that we had last year.
14:43:00 <matatk> ... I'm inclined to feature AAC.
14:43:26 <matatk> matatk: Focus almost entirely on AAC, then mention the other stuff briefly?
14:43:28 <matatk> janina: +1
14:43:52 <matatk> Sharon: +1
14:44:28 <matatk> Sharon: Symbols are a big deal now that we're at CR, but it's important to talk about where we're going, possibly for recruitment too.
14:45:03 <matatk> janina: This allows us to highlight the CG and COGA too. Make their importance clear, though we will concentrate on the parts closer to implementation.
14:50:19 <matatk> agenda?
14:54:50 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:54:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/07/17-adapt-minutes.html matatk
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