Meeting minutes
Shadi: We should start off by having an introduction before we start getting into considerations.
… Let's look at the introduction section now.
agenda
… is there anything that needs to be added or reworded? The objective is to set the tone and purpose.
… any thoughts
<SusiPallero> apart from the notes already in the document?
Jason_K: This is going to the larger group for evaluation. Clearly outlining how this relate to the broader scope of WCAG and what this is not could help.
… We want to make sure we tell people what this isn't as well as what it's meant to do
shadi: Would this repeat what's in the abstract or expand that
Jason_K: Yeah and I can help wordsmith
shadi: Maybe we draft an introduction and background
Azlan: I agree with Jason. I'm just wondering where the right place is to call those out and whether it should be the introduction?
… actually calling out what this does not address should be a section in of itself
shadi: Why don't we rename the introduction
Jason_K: Why not use "scope"?
Azlan: We need to include a section about what this is/isn't
<Jason_K> Jaunita_George: Thinks a seperate section might be a good idea. Considerations might be misunderstood
<SusiPallero> +1 to Jaunita
<Jason_K> Jaunita_George: Have had things proposed in the past that might cause confusion, i.e third-party. If we don't carefully word things we may unintentially put in exceptions
shadi: In the introduction I tried to address this. I want to get the framing in place before digging in
… please read consideration 2
Azlan: I got lost in the second sentence. Who is requesting the help? Are we talking about the end user or are we talking about the help to get an accessible solution.
<Jason_K> Jaunita_George: This could lead to a potential legal risk, and as such be reluctant to provide a method in fear once its brought they can't fix in time
<Jason_K> ... also this is a way to provide alternate methods to provide accessible methods
<Jason_K> ... people migh use this is an attempt to get out of digital accessible altogether
shadi: It's a legal risk because of policies that incorporate WCAG. That's what we're trying to address. Who is this talking to.
Azlan: This document is aimed at policymakers, so this should be made for them.
shadi: It could be a secondary outcome of this work.
SusiPallero: I'm going a little back in the discussion. Are we going to address things related to physical accessibility? Maybe we can define that here if so. The second sentence was a bit difficult for me to understand as well.
Jason_K: The more we're talking about this, the more we're approaching this from a barrier standpoint rather than solutions standpoints.
… we should ensure that you
… maintain WCAG compliance or have a path to that
shadi: I would really like us to come up with 1-2 considerations that are well-drafted
<Jason_K> Jaunita_George: I wonder we make a set of criteria if organization has sufficent controls to provide enough safe guards to act as a safe harbor
<Jason_K> ... set expiration date to safe harbor, ie you have 2 years to do x and you move up the maturity curve
<Jason_K> ... this would apply to all, the courts etc, to determine if you are meeting the spirit of WCAG
<Jason_K> ... 98% of internet in inaccessible, and how do we get them further along the path of success
shadi: There could be other ideas from the maturity model we could incorporate
… many of the considerations currently are interrelated. There's also the prioritization question. Some organizations may have little work to do, while others may have a ways to go. It's very different between organizations
Jason_K: I like Jaunita's idea of building a framework to evaluating maturity and considerations.
shadi: We're saying in addition to focusing on just the outcome, we consider things that look at the maturity and capacity growth of an organizations.
<Jason_K> Jaunita_George: Get into situation where ppl give up, and not enough oversite to compel ppl to make these changes
<Jason_K> ... they'll get into an audit that doesn't lead to accessible products/changes, or stop audit
<Jason_K> ... a lot of loop holes, atleast in the US, to do not do what they are supposed to do
<Jason_K> ... give them ways a do it, and a body to judge the whole program and give them more tools to hold them accountable
<Jason_K> * no worries! Teamwork makes the dream work hahhaha
shadi: Anything else? I'll take this feedback and add to the scope and move that content to a new section and address comments. Hope to have a consideration drafted and maybe one or two others.
… We meet again next week, the 10th of July.
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