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11:59:49 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
12:00:00 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan
12:00:04 <kaz> chair: McCool
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12:00:46 <Ege> https://www.w3.org/2023/06/06-wot-marketing-minutes.html
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12:06:32 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:06:43 <dape> scribe: dape
12:07:06 <dape> TOPIC: Minutes review
12:07:17 <dape> -> May-31 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/05/31-wot-minutes.html
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12:09:00 <dape> MMC: Any objections?
12:09:09 <dape> -> hearing no -> minutes approved
12:09:16 <dape> TOPIC: Quick Updates
12:09:23 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Cancellations
12:09:29 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates
12:09:39 <dape> MMC: Today we gonna cancel testing
12:10:00 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#7_June_2023
12:10:10 <kaz> s|https://www.w3.org/2023/06/06-wot-marketing-minutes.html||
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12:10:19 <dape> ... Question about security & discovery call next week..
12:10:31 <kaz> s/_Updates/_Updates Cancellations/
12:10:44 <dape> ... we could cancel Security next week
12:11:13 <dape> ... Arch call tomorrow (June 8) is cancelled
12:11:21 <kaz> q+
12:11:30 <dape> ... Note: Monday discovery is not cancelled
12:11:56 <dape> Kaz: Maybe I might miss some calls ... on June 12
12:12:57 <kaz> s/Maybe I might miss some calls ... on June 12/As put there on the Cancellations section of the wiki, there is a possibility I can't make some of the calls next week./
12:12:59 <dape> MMC: Okay, then lets cancel discovery
12:13:19 <dape> DP/CA: Kaz is working on publication w.r.t. Scripting
12:13:28 <dape> ... okay, lets cancel Scripting
12:13:29 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
12:13:30 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:13:47 <dape> Kaz: I keep scripting people updated
12:14:01 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Cristiano_Aguzzi
12:14:04 <dape> MMC: We need main call next week for resolutions
12:14:13 <dape> ... even if case is not there
12:14:25 <dape> s/even if case/even if Kaz
12:14:46 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Web-based Digital Twins IG during the Strategy meeting on May 30
12:14:54 <dape> Kaz: Proposal was approved
12:15:10 <dape> ... next step is to update charter
12:15:30 <dape> ... -> current draft Charter -> https://w3c.github.io/smartcities-workshop/draft-charter/index.html
12:15:44 <dape> ... liaison with WoT is important part
12:16:44 <dape> q+
12:16:49 <kaz> ack k
12:17:16 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Switching the teleconf system from WebEx to Zoom
12:17:39 <dape> MMC: walked over some wiki pages.. need to be aware of it
12:17:45 <dape> TOPIC: Schedule Changes
12:17:59 <dape> SUBTOPIC: TD call changes
12:18:06 <kaz> ack k
12:18:07 <kaz> ack d
12:18:09 <kaz> q+
12:18:11 <dape> MMC: reorganizing calls
12:18:15 <Ege> q+
12:18:34 <dape> ... that work across the world ... TD slot is rather late for Japan
12:18:52 <dape> ... Sebastian would like to have less calls in a week
12:19:02 <dape> ... Doodle planned for TD call
12:19:22 <dape> MMC: Agree with "continue to use the current TD slot on Wednesday during the current Charter period (until the end of July)"
12:19:39 <dape> Kaz: Ege and Koster agreed as well
12:19:57 <dape> MMC: Yes, but early in the morning in Japan
12:20:01 <kaz> ack k
12:20:09 <dape> ... but let's finish after charter period
12:20:12 <kaz> s/Ege/thought Ege/
12:20:40 <dape> EK: Would like to ask "who" wants to join and in which timezone to get a better idea
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12:20:45 <kaz> present+ David_Ezell
12:20:52 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:20:57 <kaz> q?
12:21:00 <kaz> ack e
12:21:01 <kaz> q+
12:21:11 <dape> MMC: Or collect information about "available hours"
12:21:32 <dape> ... and the task forces people are interested in
12:22:04 <dape> Kaz: For now we should concentrate on publication
12:22:21 <dape> ... let's defer the discussion for now
12:23:11 <kaz> s/publication/publication and charter meeting planning/
12:23:19 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Chair call changes
12:23:25 <dape> MMC: tentatively using the Use Cases slot on Tuesday
12:23:38 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Dial-in information on the TF wiki pages is out-of-date
12:23:47 <dape> MMC: Update wiki with W3C calendar link
12:24:02 <dape> TOPIC: WG Charter review status
12:24:23 <dape> Kaz: Everything is in place
12:24:34 <dape> ... PLH visits Japan this week
12:24:38 <dape> ... will talk with him
12:24:59 <dape> MMC: not sure about chair roles (3 people)
12:25:05 <dape> Kaz: Will talk with PLH
12:25:16 <dape> ... need to clarify the chairs roles
12:25:44 <dape> ... difference between chairs role and taskforce leaders
12:26:10 <dape> MMC: We should wrap it up soon
12:26:20 <dape> ... otherwise we delay charter
12:26:31 <dape> s/this week/next week
12:26:37 <dape> TOPIC: TPAC 2023 planning
12:26:45 <dape> MMC: reached out to some groups
12:26:50 <kaz> s/Everything is in place/Everything is listed there on the main wiki/
12:26:55 <dape> ... updated wiki accordingly
12:27:05 <dape> ... https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda
12:27:05 <kaz> q?
12:27:09 <kaz> ack k
12:27:12 <kaz> q+
12:27:26 <dape> EK: send email to web Agents
12:27:34 <dape> ... I am in contact with them
12:28:11 <dape> Kaz: talked with MEIG .. need to clarify agenda items for a meeting
12:28:59 <kaz> s/MEIG/MEIG and PBG/
12:29:14 <dape> ... btw. TPAC agenda should contain charter meetings outcome at TPAC also
12:29:36 <dape> MMC: Linked building data should be added to joint calls
12:29:42 <dape> Kaz: Agree, is a CG
12:30:21 <dape> MMC: Sebastian is planning to contact them
12:30:39 <dape> ... possible topics can be added in detailed planning
12:31:11 <dape> Kaz: We might want to meet with "digital twin IG" also
12:31:16 <dape> MMC: Good point
12:31:33 <kaz> s/digital twin/Web-based Digital Twins/
12:31:45 <kaz> q?
12:31:46 <kaz> ack k
12:31:56 <dape> TOPIC: Publications
12:32:07 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Schedule
12:32:17 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md Schedule
12:32:25 <dape> MMC: publication schedule -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md
12:33:33 <dape> MMC: today we should have resolution to proceed with Arch 1.1
12:33:45 <dape> ... next week we can start procedure
12:34:04 <dape> ... unfortunately Kaz is not available next week
12:34:06 <kaz> q+
12:34:40 <dape> Kaz: Technically we need group resolution for publication
12:34:54 <dape> ... no resolution for request
12:35:14 <dape> ack kaz
12:35:47 <dape> MMC: Okay, will update MD file
12:36:26 <dape> ... w.r.t. Next WG Charter there are no dates yet
12:37:04 <dape> q+
12:37:40 <dape> ack Danrancan
12:37:45 <dape> ack dape
12:38:39 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Proposed Recommendation Transition
12:39:16 <dape> MMC: I have proposed resolution for all 3 documents (Arch, Discovery and TD)
12:39:34 <dape> Kaz: I am ok having 3 different resolutions
12:39:53 <dape> ... anyway we need to have 3 transition requests
12:40:03 <dape> ... therefore better to have 3 resolutions
12:40:17 <dape> MMC: Architecture
12:40:26 <dape> ... we have some minor PRs
12:40:33 <dape> ... updating changelog
12:40:54 <dape> ... see PR 922, https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/922
12:42:21 <dape> ... no objections, merging PR 922
12:42:36 <dape> MMC: Update Acknowledgements
12:42:49 <dape> ... see PR 921, https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/921
12:43:19 <dape> ... put them in alphabetical order
12:43:27 <dape> ... did not add editors names
12:43:40 <cris_> q+
12:44:37 <dape> CA: Typo in my name... without h
12:44:48 <dape> MMC: will fix it right away
12:44:56 <dape> ack cris_
12:45:29 <dape> q+
12:45:35 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:45:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:45:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:46:11 <dape> DP: Umlaut ä for Käbisch .. or ae
12:46:24 <dape> MMC: Saw both variants.. will ping Sebastian
12:48:31 <dape> MMC: need to resolve PR conflict before merging
12:49:23 <dape> ... static document is generated... so no real problem
12:51:27 <dape> MMC: no objections, merging PR 921
12:51:59 <dape> MMC: next ,going through resolutions
12:52:09 <dape> s/next ,going/next, going
12:52:11 <McCool> proposed: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Architecture 1.1 based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture
12:52:32 <McCool> resolution: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Architecture 1.1 based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture
12:53:08 <dape> MMC: next, discovery
12:53:14 <McCool> resolution: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Discovery based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery
12:53:21 <dape> MMC: finally TD
12:53:37 <McCool> resolution: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Thing Description 1.1 based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description
12:54:07 <dape> MMC: Plan is that each task force should proceed publication request/checks etc
12:54:20 <dape> ... on 21 we should have resolutions for publications
12:54:27 <dape> TOPIC: Planning - Current Charter
12:54:40 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Testimonials
12:54:56 <dape> MMC: Could still use more testimonials, please talk to your AC representative
12:55:16 <dape> ... need to work on press release also
12:55:37 <dape> ... need 3 or 4 testimonials for press release
12:56:09 <dape> TOPIC: Planning - Next Charter
12:56:26 <dape> MMC: Propose June 19-23, 2023, 8-10am Eastern M/T/W/Th,  https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1088
12:56:38 <kaz> q+
12:56:50 <dape> ... we used Doodle for timeslot, https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwKYZAXd/vote
12:56:57 <dape> ack dape
12:57:13 <Ege> q+
12:57:47 <dape> MMC: Wednesday is main call ... maybe conflict
12:58:20 <dape> ... let's stick to  June 19-23, 2023, 8-10am Eastern M/T/W/Th
12:58:26 <dape> ... 4 days in a row
12:59:11 <dape> Kaz: I have potential conflict on Monday
12:59:27 <dape> ... maybe we can use Friday... if we need 4 days
12:59:44 <dape> MMC: Okay, let's leave of Monday.. and we discuss whether we need Friday
13:00:16 <dape> MMC: we should start allocating zoom calls
13:01:06 <kaz> ack k
13:01:07 <dape> Kaz: Can do so and distribute emails to announce it
13:01:29 <kaz> s/of M/off M/
13:02:18 <dape> MMC: let' cancel main call on June 14 also
13:02:28 <kaz> s/let'/let's/
13:02:30 <dape> EK: We will have TD call
13:02:38 <kaz> q+
13:03:03 <kaz> ack e
13:03:06 <kaz> ack k
13:03:19 <dape> Kaz: w.r.t. TD call, Ege please clarify agenda with Sebastian and Koster
13:04:02 <dape> MMC: lot of work left for agenda, see https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
13:04:31 <dape> ... agenda bashing in first meeting
13:04:37 <kaz> q+
13:04:56 <dape> Kaz: We need to look into remaining PRs
13:05:14 <dape> ... maybe better with initial discussion ... about basic direction
13:05:25 <dape> ... like Kosters proposal for TD
13:07:30 <dape> ack kaz
13:08:09 <dape> MMC: BTW, TAG asked about meeting w.r.t. Profile
13:08:51 <dape> ... maybe aiming meeting Monday 19
13:08:58 <dape> ... will send out email
13:09:16 <dape> ... asked about Matter as well
13:11:04 <dape> Kaz: 2 points
13:11:17 <dape> ... TAG meeting, 19 is not best fit, 26 would be better
13:11:43 <dape> ... Japanese CG, annual schedule and meetup
13:12:19 <dape> TOPIC: Review Liaisons
13:12:21 <kaz> s/annual/asking them to clarify their annual/
13:12:37 <dape> MMC: OPCUA meeting is the same week as detailed planning meeting
13:12:41 <kaz> s/and meetup/including meetups, hackathons, etc./
13:12:50 <dape> ... will send updates by email
13:13:33 <dape> TOPIC: TF Reports
13:13:44 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Marketing
13:14:02 <kaz> q+
13:14:10 <dape> EK: we reached resolution TF resolution to have LinkedIn presence
13:14:17 <dape> ... similar to Twitter
13:14:28 <dape> MMC: 2 questions
13:14:34 <Ege> https://www.w3.org/2023/06/06-wot-marketing-minutes.html
13:14:41 <dape> ... other W3C activities ?
13:14:59 <dape> EK: Yes, officially.. not sure about working groups
13:15:09 <kaz> s|https://www.w3.org/2023/06/06-wot-marketing-minutes.html||
13:15:20 <dape> MMC: I can see LinkedIn being good
13:15:41 <Ege> verifiable credentials at linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12495816/
13:15:42 <kaz> s/resolution TF/TF/
13:15:43 <dape> EK: And also different people (compared to Twitter)
13:15:57 <kaz> i|we reach|-> https://www.w3.org/2023/06/06-wot-marketing-minutes.html Marketing TF discussion|
13:16:18 <dape> MMC: Maybe we can think about it.. for next charter?
13:16:18 <McCool> q?
13:16:46 <dape> EK: I checked, on LinkedIn there are other W3C groups
13:17:15 <dape> Kaz: I am not really interested in creating a LinkedIn account
13:17:25 <dape> ... suggest to wait for next charter period
13:18:36 <dape> MMC: Okay, let's add it to wiki (next charter detailed planning)
13:18:55 <kaz> s/(ne/for the ne/
13:18:59 <kaz> s/)//
13:19:57 <kaz> [adjourned; no Testing call; TD all in 40 mins]
13:20:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:20:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:20:09 <dape> MMC: no testing call, see you in TD call
13:24:05 <kaz> s/[adjourned; no Testing call; TD all in 40 mins]//
13:24:06 <kaz> [adjourned; no Testing call; TD all in 40 mins]
13:24:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:24:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
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