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12:12:55 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:12:55 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
12:13:04 <janina> Date: 07 Jun 2023
12:13:17 <janina> Chair:  Janina
12:13:17 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:13:17 <janina> agenda+ APA Charter Voting Review https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/
12:13:20 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning
12:13:23 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
12:13:26 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
12:13:28 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
12:13:31 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
12:13:33 <janina> agenda+ Getting a Grip on the A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
12:13:36 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
12:13:39 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
12:13:41 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
12:13:44 <janina> agenda+ be done
12:14:18 <janina>  agenda?
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14:00:33 <Roy> agenda?
14:00:45 <Roy> present+
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14:01:06 <Fredrik> scribe: Fredrik
14:01:46 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:01:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:01:48 <Fazio> present+
14:02:37 <Fredrik> janina: A little of a whirligig: Horizontal Review will get more space today.
14:03:22 <Fredrik> janina: A reminder to us all that we are moving off of Trackbot and even RRSAgent. We're trying to use zakim start meeting and end meeting in our calls. It does all what we need for us in our calls.
14:03:48 <Fredrik> janina: For isntance, when we use zakim end meeting, it dismisses all the present]es from before. The participant lists should be accurate that way.
14:04:01 <Fredrik> janina: Plus, of course, it generates the minutes as usual.
14:04:14 <Fredrik> janina: THese are active tools, actively maintained and developed.
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14:04:32 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:04:32 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- APA Charter Voting Review https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/ -- taken up [from janina]
14:04:58 <Alisa_Smith> present+
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14:05:39 <Fredrik> janina: The voting for the charter remains open.
14:06:01 <Fredrik> janina: If your organization has yet to vote, plase get your AC reps moving.
14:06:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> ./me I already voted
14:06:38 <Fredrik> zakim, next item
14:06:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 Planning -- taken up [from janina]
14:07:03 <Fredrik> janina: We have confirmed with the organizing committee that wwe will be meeting Monday, Tuesday and Thrusday. That's all we know.
14:07:40 <Fredrik> janina: It's up to us to schedule the cross-group meetings, ontrary to our first impressiosn. They will assign rooms once we are closer to the event itself based on expected attendance.
14:08:02 <Fredrik> janina: A meeting as large as CSS we will go to them, some of the other meetings we have asked for could be well acommodated in our rooms.
14:09:01 <Fredrik> zakim, next item
14:09:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
14:09:24 <Fredrik> Roy: Nothing new this week.
14:09:29 <Fredrik> zakim,, close this item
14:09:29 <Zakim> I don't understand ', close this item', Fredrik
14:09:32 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:09:32 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Fredrik
14:09:49 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:09:49 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Fredrik
14:10:11 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:10:11 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:10:11 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:10:11 <Zakim> 5. Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from janina]
14:10:11 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:10:11 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:10:30 <Fredrik> Roy: Nothing new here either.
14:10:38 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:10:38 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:10:39 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:10:39 <Zakim> 6. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
14:10:41 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:10:42 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
14:10:56 <Roy> subtopic: RDF star WG
14:10:56 <Roy> - spec: RDF 1.2 Semantics -> https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf12-semantics/
14:10:56 <Roy> - spec: SPARQL 1.2 Entailment Regimes -> https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql12-entailment/
14:10:56 <Roy> others: https://www.w3.org/2023/05/24-apa-minutes#t10
14:10:57 <Fredrik> Roy: There are two new publications!
14:11:09 <Fredrik> Roy: Both from the RDF working group.
14:11:56 <Fredrik> Roy: Last time, we asked Lisa to review the large batch of documents, 18 in total counting this week's clutch.
14:12:24 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:12:24 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
14:12:26 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:12:26 <Zakim> 7. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
14:12:32 <Fredrik> zakim, open this item
14:12:32 <Zakim> I don't understand 'open this item', Fredrik
14:12:49 <Fredrik> PaulG: Nothing new rom CSS. All is very technical recently.
14:12:56 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:12:57 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, Fredrik
14:12:59 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:12:59 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:13:38 <Fredrik> PaulG: Nothing new. Al very technical...
14:13:43 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:13:43 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
14:13:45 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:13:45 <Zakim> 8. Getting a Grip on the A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
14:13:49 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:13:49 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Getting a Grip on the A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
14:14:09 <matatk> HOWTO guide for horizontal review: https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/HOWTO
14:14:09 <matatk> Plain GitHub Issues in the HR issue review request repo: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues
14:14:12 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:14:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:14:53 <Fredrik> matatk: Our main responsibility is to review everything coming out of the W3C for a11y which is why we do horizontal review.
14:15:03 <Fredrik> matatk: Others include i18n, security, privacy etc.
14:15:31 <Fredrik> matatk: As well as eht spec reviews, we occasionally get asked to comment on issues raised by other groups before they get into specifications.
14:16:06 <Fredrik> matatk: There is a dashboard we use with Github issue labels and so on (linked to in the header of this agendum).
14:16:25 <Fredrik> matatk: If someone has a question for us they put a specific label on their issue and we get notified.
14:16:53 <Fredrik> matatk: We have gotten a lot of isues raised in this way to comment. We do have a backlog of over a hundred issues now.
14:17:10 <Fredrik> matatk: Many of them will have been overcome by events, things may have happened, people may have said things on them and so forth.
14:17:45 <Fredrik> matatk: I also linked to a how-to document which explains how the labels work and such things.
14:19:02 <Fredrik> matatk: What we are proposing to do is: we'd really like any of you how would like to have a look at any of this, to do so and do a little gtriage. If you do and we talk about it on a call, it would be helpful if you had formed an opinion on what might be needed. Just if you think there is an issue here or not.
14:19:23 <Fredrik> matatk: THe tracking issues are just Github issues. We can assign them to ourselves and anybody who wants to take them. That won't disturb any of the original issues.
14:20:35 <janina> q?
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14:21:44 <Fredrik> matatk: Please give specific attention to the "closed?"/labelled issues.
14:21:48 <gottfried> present+
14:25:27 <PaulG> q+
14:25:52 <janina> q?
14:26:05 <janina> ack pa
14:27:08 <PaulG> https://a11y-screenreader-demos.netlify.app/studies/secondary-actions/
14:34:02 <Roy> https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
14:38:53 <Roy> Minutes record -> https://www.w3.org/2023/05/10-apa-minutes#t09
14:39:31 <janina> q?
14:40:20 <Fredrik> matatk: Many assignments made: thanks everyone for taking these issues!
14:40:45 <Fredrik> janina:And thanks Roy for letting us know that we are a little more up to speed than we thought.
14:40:51 <Fredrik> zakim, next item
14:40:51 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:41:27 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:41:27 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:41:28 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:41:28 <Zakim> 10. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
14:41:32 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:41:32 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:42:04 <Fredrik> subtopic? Maturity Model
14:42:30 <Fredrik> subtopic: Maturity Model
14:42:39 <Fredrik> Fazio: MM is getting ready to publish again.
14:42:54 <Fredrik> Fazio: By the end of June we will probably have an update ready.
14:43:28 <Fredrik> janina: We will be done with the drafint of the actual guidance in less than a year from now, probably next spring. Which leavesd work to do for building a consistent interface to populate a database.
14:43:57 <Fredrik> subtopic: FAST Organization
14:44:06 <Fredrik> scribe: niklasegger
14:45:44 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/fast/
14:45:58 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/fast
14:46:09 <Roy> public-fast@w3.org
14:46:13 <niklasegger> Fredrik: I haven't be able to do any work. However, we have to interested members - Todd and Raja
14:46:24 <Roy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fast/
14:46:42 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/fast
14:47:31 <niklasegger> janina: RQTF is willing to be the FAST partner. The group that has developed most of the a11y user requirements. If you are interested Fredrik
14:47:46 <niklasegger> Fredrik: Yeah sure!
14:48:48 <niklasegger> Roy: First Link is the homepage on the WAI-Website. The second one is for the official FAST website
14:49:05 <Roy> My email address: ran@w3.org
14:49:21 <niklasegger> Roy: If you want to join then just talk to janina, Fredrik or me
14:49:53 <matatk> q+
14:50:56 <matatk> s/Todd and Raja/Todd and whomever Raja is proposing/
14:51:49 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:52:36 <niklasegger> janina: It will probably hard to get a group starting in summer, but we are giving our best of course.
14:53:05 <janina> ack ma
14:54:01 <niklasegger> Fredrik: Is anyone up to taking up an action and look at a website and read through the text to see if the information is understandable
14:54:14 <niklasegger> sorry, not Fredrik but matatk
14:54:53 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:54:53 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:55:07 <Fredrik> scribe: Fredrik
14:55:13 <matatk> zakim, who's here?
14:55:13 <Zakim> Present: PaulG, janina, niklasegger, matatk, Roy, Fredrik, Fazio, Alisa_Smith, Lionel_Wolberger, gottfried
14:55:14 <Fredrik> janina: No other business.
14:55:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see gottfried, Lionel_Wolberger, Alisa_Smith, Fredrik, matatk, niklasegger, tzviya, PaulG, Fazio, Roy, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, kirkwood, jcraig, M2cshkpcgrp, archive,
14:55:16 <Zakim> ... Mike5Matrix, ZoeBijl, Rachael, tink, slightlyoff, cwilso, ada, gonzu_15, imlostlmao, Github, trackbot, agendabot, ghurlbot
14:55:21 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:55:21 <Zakim> agendum 11 closed
14:55:23 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:55:23 <Zakim> 12. be done [from janina]
14:55:24 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:55:24 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:55:31 <Fredrik> janina: Thanks everyone! GGreat and productive call!
14:55:38 <matatk> action Fazio: Review FAST TF site and document for clarity
14:55:46 <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker.  Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.
14:55:46 <ghurlbot> Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe Fazio is not a valid user for w3c/apa?
14:55:47 <Fredrik> rrsagent, make minutes
14:55:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
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14:57:06 <matatk> trackbot, bye
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14:57:15 <Roy> action David: Review FAST TF site and document for clarity
14:57:15 <ghurlbot> Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe David is not a valid user for w3c/apa?
14:58:27 <Roy> ghurlbot, Fazio = Helixopp
14:58:27 <ghurlbot> Roy, OK.
14:58:37 <Roy> action Fazio: Review FAST TF site and document for clarity
14:58:39 <ghurlbot> Created -> action #333 https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/333
14:59:20 <Roy> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:59:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/07-apa-minutes.html Roy
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