IRC log of aria-apg on 2023-05-30
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Matt_King
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- MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force
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- CHAIR: Matt King
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- present+
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King
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- TOPIC: Review agenda and next meeting date
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- view agenda at https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-30,-2023-Agenda
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- Next meeting is on June 6.
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King
- 17:59:04 [jugglinmike]
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- Zakim, start the meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jugglinmike
- 18:03:16 [jugglinmike]
- meeting: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force Weekly Teleconference
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- present+ jugglinmike
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- scribe+ jugglinmike
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- Topic: Status of Site Updates
- 18:09:38 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: Mockups for same level navigation in Single Pattern and Single Practice pages
- 18:09:42 [jugglinmike]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2535
- 18:09:49 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: We discussed this during the last meeting
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- Matt_King: We're waiting on feedback from Shawn. I'll bump this with them
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- Topic: Pull request reviews
- 18:11:53 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: Fix path to ratings star images
- 18:11:53 [howard-e]
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- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2705
- 18:12:15 [howard-e]
- present+
- 18:12:54 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I think this won't work because it assumes the content repository is the same as the build repository
- 18:13:18 [jugglinmike]
- howard-e: As far as I know, this will result in a different path resolution if rendered for the live site
- 18:13:22 [jongund]
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- 18:13:48 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I believe there's an issue related to this in the other repository
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- present+ jongund
- 18:14:36 [jugglinmike]
- howard-e: perhaps https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2628
- 18:16:08 [jugglinmike]
- howard-e: I'll follow up on the issue to help the contributor understand why we're going to close this
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- 18:17:32 [jugglinmike]
- subtopic: Remove duplicate SkipTo library
- 18:17:36 [jugglinmike]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2682
- 18:19:10 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I think this PR needs some discussion, but we can't have it without Alex_Flenniken
- 18:19:33 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I don't really want to manage any content in WAI ARIA-Practices
- 18:19:56 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: The one thing I'm not sure about: it feels inconsistent that we would include other scripts in the "head" within the content repository, but not this one
- 18:20:23 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I'll add a comment. We might have to have Alex_Flenniken in a meeting at some point
- 18:20:41 [jugglinmike]
- subtopic: updated skipto.js script to 5.1.6
- 18:20:49 [jugglinmike]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2680
- 18:23:30 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: Is there another way to do this without requiring all the HTML source to be edited? Specifically, a way that would be straightforward to anyone using skipTo
- 18:26:48 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: the RequireJS library was configurable via the HTML script tag which included it. We could configure skipTo with a "data-" attribute, if skipTo were updated to recognize such an attribute
- 18:28:32 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I think we want to merge gh-2680 and then get alignment on whether or not the HTML files in ARIA-Practices with have a script tag for skipto.js or not (and if not, where the injection will be done). From there, we can simplifying this aspect of configuration
- 18:29:24 [jugglinmike]
- subtopic: Add landmark pattern page
- 18:29:27 [jugglinmike]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2670
- 18:29:44 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: Alex_Flenniken has unblocked this, and we're waiting for reviews
- 18:30:03 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: None of the people assigned are in this call today. I can reach out to them via e-mail
- 18:30:27 [jongund]
- https://deploy-preview-220--aria-practices.netlify.app/aria/apg/patterns/landmarks/
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- present+ siri
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- siri: I will take a look
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- subtopic: Datepicker Modal Dialog: Fixed next/prev month bug and improve adherence with APG code style guide
- 18:31:55 [jugglinmike]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2643
- 18:32:22 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: I reviewed and approved the tests with Paul at Bocoup.
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- Matt_King: Then I think this is ready to merge
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- subtopic: Listbox Examples: Update scrolling of listbox item with focus into view when page is magnified
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- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622
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- Matt_King: The most recent comment is Carmen offering to triage
- 18:35:48 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: This is waiting on test review and code review by Alex_Flenniken
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- Topic: New Issue Action Planning
- 18:38:40 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: shape of mouse pointer for links and mouse buttons
- 18:38:56 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: This was reported to the mailing list; there is no issue on GitHub for it.
- 18:39:12 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I'll find the message in the archive and convert it to a GitHub issue
- 18:53:25 [jongund]
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- Subtopic: Improving the presentation of example code
- 18:56:06 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: This just came up during an internal call at Bocoup, so I haven't had time to file an issue. Given that we have a little time today, I thought I'd ask those in attendance directly
- 18:56:51 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: We've been consider if and how contributors would be discouraged by the way sample code is displayed on the site right now
- 18:58:05 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: We identified a bunch of opportunities for improvements, but we also wondered whether it would be acceptable to address this by integrating a third-party "code embedding" service like CodePen
- 18:59:57 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: That would require less work than improving the current implementation, and it would also result in less code to maintain, overall. On the other hand, we could imagine use cases that would be incompatible with any third-party solution
- 19:00:45 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: This has come up a few times before. We decided not to rely on CodePen, et. al, due to usability limitations of embedded iframes
- 19:01:06 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: That said, we do include a button to review the examples in CodePen
- 19:01:42 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: Thanks! That lets us take that option off the table
- 19:03:15 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike: We recognize that this is relatively low priority, so we'll be looking to balance between impact and development effort
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- jugglinmike: Though I'll say that it seems like it'd be better to generate the markup for formatted source code on the server (currently, that's done in the browser)
- 19:05:14 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: In the longer-term, I'm interested in making APG easier for W3 staff to maintain as content that more simply slots into the rest of the W3's properties.
- 19:05:54 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: For this issue specifically, I'm wondering if they have established practices for rendering source code on other sites, and if we could somehow use that
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- Zakim, end the meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Matt_King, jugglinmike, howard-e, jongund, CurtBellew, siri
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, jugglinmike; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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