17:42:04 RRSAgent has joined #aria-apg 17:42:09 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-irc 17:42:09 RRSAgent, make logs Public 17:42:10 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Matt_King 17:42:26 MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force 17:42:39 CHAIR: Matt King 17:42:45 present+ 17:42:55 rrsagent, make minutes 17:42:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King 17:43:28 TOPIC: Review agenda and next meeting date 17:44:01 view agenda at https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-30,-2023-Agenda 17:44:11 Next meeting is on June 6. 17:44:19 rrsagent, make minutes 17:44:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King 17:59:04 jugglinmike has joined #aria-apg 18:02:59 Zakim, start the meeting 18:02:59 RRSAgent, make logs Public 18:03:01 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jugglinmike 18:03:16 meeting: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force Weekly Teleconference 18:03:20 present+ jugglinmike 18:03:26 scribe+ jugglinmike 18:08:00 jongund has joined #aria-apg 18:09:17 jongund has joined #aria-apg 18:09:20 Topic: Status of Site Updates 18:09:38 Subtopic: Mockups for same level navigation in Single Pattern and Single Practice pages 18:09:42 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2535 18:09:49 Matt_King: We discussed this during the last meeting 18:10:35 Matt_King: We're waiting on feedback from Shawn. I'll bump this with them 18:10:45 Topic: Pull request reviews 18:11:53 Subtopic: Fix path to ratings star images 18:11:53 howard-e has joined #aria-apg 18:12:01 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2705 18:12:15 present+ 18:12:54 Matt_King: I think this won't work because it assumes the content repository is the same as the build repository 18:13:18 howard-e: As far as I know, this will result in a different path resolution if rendered for the live site 18:13:22 jongund has joined #aria-apg 18:13:48 Matt_King: I believe there's an issue related to this in the other repository 18:14:31 present+ jongund 18:14:36 howard-e: perhaps https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2628 18:16:08 howard-e: I'll follow up on the issue to help the contributor understand why we're going to close this 18:16:39 CurtBellew has joined #aria-apg 18:16:50 present+ 18:17:32 subtopic: Remove duplicate SkipTo library 18:17:36 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2682 18:19:10 Matt_King: I think this PR needs some discussion, but we can't have it without Alex_Flenniken 18:19:33 Matt_King: I don't really want to manage any content in WAI ARIA-Practices 18:19:56 Matt_King: The one thing I'm not sure about: it feels inconsistent that we would include other scripts in the "head" within the content repository, but not this one 18:20:23 Matt_King: I'll add a comment. We might have to have Alex_Flenniken in a meeting at some point 18:20:41 subtopic: updated skipto.js script to 5.1.6 18:20:49 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2680 18:23:30 Matt_King: Is there another way to do this without requiring all the HTML source to be edited? Specifically, a way that would be straightforward to anyone using skipTo 18:26:48 jugglinmike: the RequireJS library was configurable via the HTML script tag which included it. We could configure skipTo with a "data-" attribute, if skipTo were updated to recognize such an attribute 18:28:32 Matt_King: I think we want to merge gh-2680 and then get alignment on whether or not the HTML files in ARIA-Practices with have a script tag for skipto.js or not (and if not, where the injection will be done). From there, we can simplifying this aspect of configuration 18:29:24 subtopic: Add landmark pattern page 18:29:27 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2670 18:29:44 Matt_King: Alex_Flenniken has unblocked this, and we're waiting for reviews 18:30:03 Matt_King: None of the people assigned are in this call today. I can reach out to them via e-mail 18:30:27 https://deploy-preview-220--aria-practices.netlify.app/aria/apg/patterns/landmarks/ 18:31:12 present+ siri 18:31:16 siri: I will take a look 18:31:40 siri has joined #aria-apg 18:31:51 subtopic: Datepicker Modal Dialog: Fixed next/prev month bug and improve adherence with APG code style guide 18:31:55 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2643 18:32:22 jugglinmike: I reviewed and approved the tests with Paul at Bocoup. 18:33:37 Matt_King: Then I think this is ready to merge 18:34:03 subtopic: Listbox Examples: Update scrolling of listbox item with focus into view when page is magnified 18:34:13 github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622 18:35:23 Matt_King: The most recent comment is Carmen offering to triage 18:35:48 Matt_King: This is waiting on test review and code review by Alex_Flenniken 18:37:16 Topic: New Issue Action Planning 18:38:40 Subtopic: shape of mouse pointer for links and mouse buttons 18:38:56 Matt_King: This was reported to the mailing list; there is no issue on GitHub for it. 18:39:12 Matt_King: I'll find the message in the archive and convert it to a GitHub issue 18:53:25 jongund has joined #aria-apg 18:55:16 Subtopic: Improving the presentation of example code 18:56:06 jugglinmike: This just came up during an internal call at Bocoup, so I haven't had time to file an issue. Given that we have a little time today, I thought I'd ask those in attendance directly 18:56:51 jugglinmike: We've been consider if and how contributors would be discouraged by the way sample code is displayed on the site right now 18:58:05 jugglinmike: We identified a bunch of opportunities for improvements, but we also wondered whether it would be acceptable to address this by integrating a third-party "code embedding" service like CodePen 18:59:57 jugglinmike: That would require less work than improving the current implementation, and it would also result in less code to maintain, overall. On the other hand, we could imagine use cases that would be incompatible with any third-party solution 19:00:45 Matt_King: This has come up a few times before. We decided not to rely on CodePen, et. al, due to usability limitations of embedded iframes 19:01:06 Matt_King: That said, we do include a button to review the examples in CodePen 19:01:42 jugglinmike: Thanks! That lets us take that option off the table 19:03:15 jugglinmike: We recognize that this is relatively low priority, so we'll be looking to balance between impact and development effort 19:04:17 jugglinmike: Though I'll say that it seems like it'd be better to generate the markup for formatted source code on the server (currently, that's done in the browser) 19:05:14 Matt_King: In the longer-term, I'm interested in making APG easier for W3 staff to maintain as content that more simply slots into the rest of the W3's properties. 19:05:54 Matt_King: For this issue specifically, I'm wondering if they have established practices for rendering source code on other sites, and if we could somehow use that 19:06:07 Zakim, end the meeting 19:06:07 As of this point the attendees have been Matt_King, jugglinmike, howard-e, jongund, CurtBellew, siri 19:06:09 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 19:06:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/30-aria-apg-minutes.html Zakim 19:06:17 I am happy to have been of service, jugglinmike; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. 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