14:07:35 RRSAgent has joined #wot-discovery 14:07:39 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/05/15-wot-discovery-irc 14:08:55 topic: Minutes 14:09:09 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/04/24-wot-discovery-minutes.html Apr-24 14:09:15 approved 14:09:29 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool,Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:09:34 chair: McCool 14:10:28 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#15_May_2023 14:10:44 topic: Assertions 14:11:03 mm: would like to finalize the features at-risk 14:11:17 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2023.03.Online/README.md latest testfest results 14:11:56 subtopic: PR 571 14:12:09 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/571 PR 571 - Update Siemens/Logilab test results 14:12:19 mm: should go ahead and merge it 14:12:47 ... any objections? 14:12:48 (none) 14:12:50 merged 14:13:05 subtopic: PR 572 14:13:17 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/572 PR 572 - Update Intel wot-ha results 14:13:25 mm: (goes through the changes) 14:14:25 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/572/files files changed 14:14:57 mm: started to work on multi language stuff 14:15:07 ... looked OK to me, but the test is broken 14:15:34 ... so kind of reluctant to merge this 14:15:38 ... but could merge this and add fixes later 14:16:07 ... any problems to overwrite the failed assertions? 14:16:46 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/actions/runs/4981261714/jobs/8915282075?pr=572 validation failures 14:17:30 mm: failed due to some inconsistency... 14:18:33 ... can not see any problems with the data itself 14:18:39 s/can/but can/ 14:20:46 mm: any opinion about translating the title of "WoT Thing Description" into Japanese? 14:22:02 kaz: the translation work for TD by the WoT-JP CG is still ongoing, but I thought they were simply using "WoT Thing Description" in English as the title for the JP version as well 14:22:27 mm: would it be OK to merge this PR itself? 14:22:47 kaz: would be better to ask Ege for clarification about this kind of errors and warnings 14:22:53 mm: yeah, I know 14:23:40 kaz: if the data can be processed for the implementation report correctly, I'm OK with merging this PR itself 14:24:04 ... but checking with Ege as the developer of the validator would be helpful 14:24:15 mm: yeah, maybe the check is too strict 14:24:23 PR itself has been merged 14:26:13 mm: (regenerates the updated implementation report) 14:26:39 q? 14:27:48 mm: got an updated result, and would like to update the features at-risk results on the README.md as well 14:29:02 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2023.03.Online/README.md#discovery updated results for Discovery 14:29:57 kaz: what about the remaining two PRs on the wot-testing repo? 14:30:21 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/570 PR 570 - Update node-wot manual csv 14:30:42 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/569 PR 569 - Update manual.csv for dart_wot 14:30:50 mm: those are for TD 14:30:59 ... would like to see the Discovery results first 14:31:01 kaz: ok 14:32:07 mm: (updates the Testfest README.md again) 14:32:45 ... still some stuff left over there 14:33:40 ... pagination things and language things can be handled by me, since only one more implementation is needed 14:35:29 mm: one problem is around @@@ 14:35:46 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/#tdd-http-alternate-language tdd-http-alternate-language 14:35:51 s/@@@/tdd-http-alternate-language/ 14:36:48 kaz: given we've not got any implementations so far, maybe there is no strong need for this feature. However, maybe should see the need from the industry again. 14:37:40 mm: maybe need to give up to implement this myself 14:38:03 ... would be better to work on pagination 14:38:37 ... also there is a note saying "he process of modifying the default language of a TD using translations already provided in a TD is described in the WoT Thing Description 1.1 specification." 14:39:31 ... by Wednesday, May 17, we should handle "introduction-dns-sd-service-name-udp" as well 14:39:50 ... pretty sure can handle all the high priority features 14:39:51 [[ 14:40:07 High Priority 14:40:07 List of higher-priority assertions with at least one implementation: 14:40:07 (1) tdd-registrationinfo-expiry-config - Intel 14:40:07 (1) tdd-things-list-pagination-order-utf-8 14:40:07 These are in support of internationalization, and were added based on wide review, so should be a relatively high priority. 14:40:09 (2) tdd-http-alternate-language - Intel 14:40:13 (1) tdd-validation-response-lang - Intel 14:40:15 Following are for ordering results. Some of these are implied by tdd-things-list-pagination-order-utf-8 which is satisfied: 14:40:18 (1) tdd-things-list-pagination-order - Logilab 14:40:20 (1) tdd-things-list-pagination-orderable - Logilab 14:40:22 (1) tdd-things-list-pagination-order-nextlink - Logilab 14:40:24 ]] 14:41:06 kaz: could you commit the latest updated implementation report to GitHub? 14:41:09 mm: ok 14:41:22 ... (creates a PR for that purpose) 14:41:57 s/you /you git / 14:42:01 rrsagent, make log public 14:42:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:42:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/15-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:43:15 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/478 14:43:27 i|mm: (regenerates the updated implementation report)|subtopic: Updated implementation report for Discovery| 14:44:30 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/478|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/478 wot-discovery PR 478 - 15 May 2023 implementation report update| 14:45:07 mm: would like to merge the above PR 14:45:15 kaz: ok 14:45:21 mm: (fixes minor conflicts before merging) 14:45:40 merged 14:46:06 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/testing/report.html updated implementation report for Discovery 14:46:18 meeting: WoT Discovery 14:46:29 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:46:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/15-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:46:57 mm: will fix the stuff other than the results too 14:47:45 ... there are failures but we have enough passes for them 14:48:08 ... (skims the updated implementation report) 14:48:50 ... lacking implementations for "21: introduction-dns-sd-service-name-udp" and "22: introduction-dns-sd-service-name-directory-udp", etc. 14:48:58 ... will work on them 14:49:28 ... and we'll summarize the situation on Wednesday 14:49:42 kaz: yeah, given the situation, the question is simply "when to wrap up" 14:49:46 mm: yeah 14:49:54 ... there are two more days for that purpose 14:50:39 [adjourned] 14:50:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:50:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/15-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 16:49:39 Zakim has left #wot-discovery