12:11:06 RRSAgent has joined #apa 12:11:11 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/05/10-apa-irc 12:11:11 RRSAgent, make logs Public 12:11:12 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina 12:11:31 Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference 12:11:39 Date 10 May 2023 12:12:37 regrets: Gottfried_Zimmerman 12:14:01 Chair: Janina 12:14:01 agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements 12:14:01 agenda+ Announcing New Zoom Starting Next Week 12:14:01 agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning 12:14:01 agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 12:14:04 agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues 12:14:06 agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review 12:14:09 agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html 12:14:12 agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues 12:14:14 agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open 12:14:17 agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates 12:14:19 agenda+ Other Business 12:14:22 agenda+ be done 12:27:49 bkardell_ has joined #apa 12:51:08 kirkwood has joined #APA 13:27:07 kirkwood has joined #APA 13:49:36 kirkwood has joined #APA 13:59:18 matatk has joined #apa 13:59:42 Fredrik has joined #apa 13:59:45 present+ 14:01:00 regrets+ Paul 14:01:03 regrets+ Gottfried 14:01:19 regrets+ Paul 14:01:28 present+ 14:01:33 agenda? 14:02:18 niklasegger has joined #apa 14:03:20 wendyreid has joined #apa 14:04:03 mike_beganyi has joined #apa 14:04:30 scribe: Fredrik 14:04:35 present+ 14:05:04 present+ 14:05:40 scribe+ 14:05:42 Alisa_Smith has joined #apa 14:05:42 present+ 14:05:58 present+ 14:05:58 present+ 14:05:59 Lionel_Wolberger has joined #APA 14:06:06 zakim, next item 14:06:06 agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina] 14:06:12 rrsagent, make minutes 14:06:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/10-apa-minutes.html matatk 14:06:22 present+ 14:06:39 janina: Mostly same agenda as usual. Important second item coming up! 14:07:17 janina: Any announcements/agenda? 14:07:36 zakim, close this item 14:07:37 agendum 1 closed 14:07:37 I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:07:37 2. Announcing New Zoom Starting Next Week [from janina] 14:07:39 zakim, next item 14:07:39 agendum 2 -- Announcing New Zoom Starting Next Week -- taken up [from janina] 14:08:26 janina: We're moving away from MIT's Zoom to W3C's. This is happening! 14:08:46 ... We can have live machine transcription and we can have translation into other languages! 14:09:28 ... This sort of thing is covered in RTC Accessibility User Requirements, e.g. pinning the ASL feed. I think they're identifying the signer, and hopefully you can pin them. 14:10:03 ... Two things are changing, and two things are not: the link that's published in all agenda announcements (goes to w3.org/...) is _not_ changing. 14:10:18 ... The password will remain the same. 14:11:14 ... What is changing? The meeting ID, and the meeting-joining link URI that is within the W3C page. 14:11:24 ... Questions/comments? 14:11:44 zakim, next item 14:11:45 agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 Planning -- taken up [from janina] 14:11:53 Draft page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 14:12:44 janina: We filed for a whole series of joint meetings, put a lot of time into thinking about the sequence of them, too. This is because the priorities/goals that come out of some meetings will affect the meetings with others. 14:13:15 ... We included everything that you (TFs) asked for. Not as long a list as last time, which was our first time IRL for 3 years. However it's still a big list. 14:13:27 ... We should also have plenty of time to just be APA, and do our own internal work. 14:15:39 scribe> Fredrik 14:16:02 matatk: Looking very good line-up-wise. Keep an eye on the wiki page, there will be lots going on there shortly. 14:16:45 janina: We're looking to the future, and we are excited to plan what we can pull together and work on next! Comments/questions? 14:16:52 zakim, next item 14:16:52 agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina] 14:17:15 subtopic: Media Interest Group 14:17:22 https://w3c.github.io/media-and-entertainment/charters/charter-2023.html 14:18:50 janina: I have a draft PR for this, regarding the topics area. They list a whole series of topics; including accessibility - very good. However, let's get some examples in for accessibility. 14:19:54 ... E.g. interlinear streams; multiple languages of captions; synchronization of multiple captions/*SLs; rich markup (symbols?) for chapter titles; etc. 14:20:22 Lionel_Wolberger: Media predictability 14:20:31 scribe+ 14:21:03 janina: Just to note, this is an interest group (IG) which is not a group that produces standards (but might produce notes), it's a group for coordinating cross-industry. 14:21:07 Lionel: The ability to inform the user before clicking a link, what the media consists of, if it has multiple BW encodings, captions, ASL, etc 14:21:07 ... (a bit like WAI). 14:21:38 s/... (a bit like WAI)./janina: (a bit like WAI)./ 14:21:47 janina: We may also like to update the MAUR (2015). 14:22:05 janina: +1 to exposure of metadata about the media behind the link, as Lionel_Wolberger mentions. 14:22:13 rrsagent, make minutes 14:22:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/10-apa-minutes.html matatk 14:22:24 Lionel_Wolberger: Metadata regarding the video, before invoking the link, your user agent can assess if this media has or does not have what you need 14:22:54 janina: e.g. YouTube adds a semaphore to a video to indicate the standard/level of captioning that has been done (automated/ASL/human-corrected). 14:23:18 ... Would we all agree to making a PR to give them a list of examples, but otherwise be happy with the charter? 14:23:45 +1 14:24:04 +1 14:24:05 +1 14:24:05 +1 14:24:06 +1 14:24:07 +1 14:24:08 +1 14:24:22 janina: I'll work on the PR. 14:24:56 subtopic: Web of Things Working Group rechartering 14:24:59 scribe: Fredrik 14:25:10 Latest update: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/375#issuecomment-1536515993 14:25:15 matatk: Quick note: I already did the same thing as what Janina was suggesting with the WOT charter. 14:26:12 matatk: They have a charter that we are happy with in general. When they offered to include the accessible onboarding (bringing a thing onto your network: thermostat, smart bulb, printer etc.). They offered accessible onboarding, there's a consideration of the WG and we looked at it, ahd a conversation about it. 14:26:26 matatk: It seems that these changes will be in the charter, but they haven't been merged yet. 14:26:57 matatk: I've said we're happy with the charter as is because they have included accessibility. The onboarding process is going to be merged, but we haven't heard about it being merged yet. 14:27:30 zakim, next item 14:27:30 agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina] 14:27:44 Roy: No new ones 14:27:48 zakim, next item 14:27:48 agendum 5 was just opened, matatk 14:27:53 zakim, close this item 14:27:53 agendum 5 closed 14:27:54 I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:27:54 6. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina] 14:27:55 zakim, next item 14:27:56 agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina] 14:28:00 subtopic: WCAG 2.2 1.4.6 Contrast (Enhanced) failure in WCAG 2.2 draft 14:28:00 - issue: https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/3105 14:28:36 Roy: This looks like an issue with the presentation of the document, for AGWG to resolve. 14:29:59 zakim, next item 14:30:00 agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina] 14:30:04 Verifiable Credentials Status List v2021 14:30:04 - tracker: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verifiable_Credentials_Status_List_v2021 14:30:04 - Spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-status-list/ 14:31:05 q+ 14:31:27 https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-status-list/#accessibility-considerations 14:32:36 action Lionel_Wolberger: Review Verifiable Credentials Status List v2021 14:32:43 Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe Lionel_Wolberger is not a valid user for w3c/apa? 14:33:15 Lionel_Wolberger: I will review. Note that much of this may be low level, but will check the considerations section. 14:33:38 ack ma 14:35:06 ghurlbot, Lionel_Wolberger = lwolberg 14:35:06 Roy, OK. 14:35:16 action Lionel_Wolberger: Review Verifiable Credentials Status List v2021 14:35:17 Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe lwolberg is not a valid user for w3c/apa? 14:35:55 q? 14:35:58 matatk: Not 100% sure if ACs section needed, though they have an apparent general VC-related section, which is great to see. There's a note to say that it needs to be written. 14:36:30 janina: This is reflective of the good relationship we have with VC; good on them for having a stock Accessibility Considerations section. 14:36:51 zakim, next item 14:36:51 agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina] 14:37:02 PaulG: [via email] no news. 14:37:09 s/no news/nothing to report/ 14:37:13 zakim, close this item 14:37:13 agendum 8 closed 14:37:14 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:37:14 9. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open [from janina] 14:37:19 zakim, next item 14:37:19 agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina] 14:37:38 subtopic: Stock Accessibility Considerations section 14:37:53 matatk: I am working on this! 14:39:10 subtopic: Compute Pressure API ACs 14:39:27 https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/53#issuecomment-1540076919 14:41:11 matatk: The latest in the conversation (per previous discussion). I need to write a proposed section, for us to review. Fredrik or Paul may have input as to anything I missed. 14:42:00 janina: One example: resource tracking in Linux/GUI. By the time resource pressure is a problem, it can be hard to access a report; having one present and accessilbe can help avoid that. 14:42:58 rrsagent, make minutes 14:42:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/10-apa-minutes.html matatk 14:43:05 zakim, next item 14:43:05 agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina] 14:44:29 janina: We have a lot of great work going on across the TFs! 14:45:24 janina: We're expecting Maturity Model's initial work to be complete about this time next year. 14:46:31 Fredrik: FAST TF update: Working on completing the Work Statement - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Fast-work-statement - your input would be much appreciated. 14:46:40 Fredrik: It's generally done. 14:48:10 janina: Let's all review the Work Statement this week - comments on the APA list or otherwise. 14:48:23 zakim, next item 14:48:23 agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina] 14:53:26 zakim, close this item 14:53:26 agendum 11 closed 14:53:27 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 14:53:27 12. be done [from janina] 14:53:29 zakim, next item 14:53:29 agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from janina] 14:53:34 rrsagent, make minutes 14:53:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/10-apa-minutes.html matatk 14:59:04 janina has left #apa 15:42:26 kirkwood has joined #APA 16:13:42 kirkwood has joined #APA 16:26:26 kirkwood has joined #APA 17:57:36 kirkwood has joined #APA 18:40:39 kirkwood has joined #APA 20:14:26 kirkwood has joined #APA