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16:46:17 <janina> Meeting: A11yEdge Teleconference
16:46:24 <janina> Date 08 May 2023
16:46:30 <janina> Chair: Janina
16:46:37 <janina> agenda?
16:46:45 <janina> agenda+ Intros (as needed)
16:47:06 <janina> agenda+ Capabilities Continued -- https://a11yedge.github.io/capabilities/
16:47:16 <janina> agenda+Actions and Next Steps Wrap-Up
16:51:45 <janina> present+
16:51:51 <janina> zakim, who's here?
16:51:51 <Zakim> Present: janina
16:51:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, dmontalvo, jcraig
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17:05:48 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel
17:06:08 <Lionel> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge Community Group Weekly Teleconference 8 May 2023
17:06:14 <Lionel> scribe+
17:06:43 <Lionel> kate: Reading the document in detail, and preparing for providing responses
17:07:23 <Lionel> ... Focusing on agency and human-centered principles
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17:13:19 <Lionel> janina: We want to add cross references as well
17:18:53 <Lionel> Topic: Human Centered Principles
17:19:54 <Lionel> katew_: Agency means 'capacity to act'. It is related to autonomy.
17:20:27 <Lionel> ... You can have autonomy but still be missing agency in particular contexts
17:20:40 <Lionel> ... Independence is larger than agency, and they may or may not be mutually exclusive
17:21:31 <Lionel> ... Independence is an attribute of a person, whereas agency is something held (or not) in relationship to something (e.g., software)
17:21:49 <Lionel> rrsagent, make minutes
17:21:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/08-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel
17:26:07 <Lionel> Lionel: We should express clearly the nature of agency, how users have reasonable expectations of controlling experiences
17:26:45 <Lionel> ... and focus on preserving dignity in any setting
17:28:29 <Lionel> katew_: The conduct that we are designing for systems should follow these conventions for decency, civility, manners, digital dignity
17:28:49 <Lionel> ... no one has full agency in any experience.
17:29:04 <Lionel> ... it is helpful to consider parity. Parity of agency, or experiential parity.
17:32:50 <Lionel> Lionel: Parity is good, keeping in mind that it might play out in qualitatively different ways over time
17:41:22 <janina> https://www.deque.com/axe-con/sessions/preparing-accessibility-for-the-future-and-the-present/
17:42:14 <Lionel> katew_: To support this perspective, we can spell out in a clearer what such parity would look like
17:42:55 <Lionel> Lionel: Other helpful links
17:43:04 <Lionel> ... to join W3C and the Community Group, https://www.w3.org/community/a11yedge/
17:43:11 <katew_> - clearer way through conventions or principles (re: parity)
17:44:11 <Lionel> ... and Jutta Treviranus video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWlRLG48eE
17:52:26 <Lionel> rrsagent, make minutes
17:52:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/08-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel
17:52:44 <Lionel> Topic: Next steps
17:53:09 <Lionel> katew_: I will make suggestions for organizing people's needs so that it aligns with human-centered principles
17:55:07 <Lionel> janina: I intend to complete my pass #1 of my task, leaving spell checking and links for the next pass
18:03:54 <Lionel> rrsagent, make minutes
18:03:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/08-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel