IRC log of auto on 2023-05-02
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- 16:05:43 [RRSAgent]
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- 16:05:47 [ted]
- Present+ Ted
- 16:05:47 [Zakim]
- RRSAgent, make logs Public
- 16:05:48 [Zakim]
- Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference
- 16:05:53 [ted]
- Present+ Peter, Ulf, Carine
- 16:05:59 [ted]
- Chair: Peter, Ted
- 16:06:07 [ted]
- Topic: debrief from AMM
- 16:06:42 [ted]
- Ted and Ulf encourage Peter to open sourcex his mapping code, willing to help lobby external to Volvo
- 16:07:11 [ted]
- Peter: the proposed extension (struct) in VSS is going to complicate things, expecting BMW to push back on that
- 16:07:38 [ted]
- … expect the conversation to be drawn out about open sourcing
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- … would be cool to test new language models and see how they compare
- 16:08:43 [ted]
- … clear interest from Ford and AWS in the mapping tool
- 16:09:01 [ted]
- Ulf: is Volvo part of COVESA yet?
- 16:09:22 [ted]
- Peter: no and have been encouraging that too
- 16:09:55 [ted]
- … they were members of GENIVI and as they dropped it, would be difficult to get back in especially with shift to Android
- 16:15:30 [ted]
- Ted: Volvo in the AutoSAR camp? if so the collaboration with them on an in-vehicle API can help with VISS
- 16:15:33 [ted]
- Peter: yes
- 16:16:09 [ted]
- Ted: BMW and Bosch at least, Ulf as well, are in favor of VISS being used there, maybe pared down
- 16:21:16 [ted]
- … EV charging events is getting interest, that will certainly help with VSS uptake as well. definitely need data to help with the pain points and user experience that will come up with EV adoption
- 16:21:43 [ted]
- Peter: it would be very beneficial to have VSS-like on charging infrastructure
- 16:21:48 [ted]
- … that Ford?
- 16:21:50 [ted]
- Ulf: yes
- 16:22:05 [ted]
- Peter: seemed like less than Detroit but decent turnout
- 16:24:04 [ted]
- … Volvo Group sent an exec, there should have been more engineers
- 16:24:21 [ted]
- Ted: he was there for the Commercial Vehicles BoF track, was on a panel
- 16:24:22 [ted]
- https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/14hJfZvJHqiSukAlzsWN3DxeNyspfPi1jC5lAWQuMaCg/edit#slide=id.g228e5bba725_0_151
- 16:25:04 [ted]
- Peter: we can conclude this data model is finally being adopted, was unsure as of a couple years ago
- 16:25:18 [ted]
- … need to keep it uncomplicated, balance with evolving it
- 16:25:23 [ted]
- Ulf: I agree
- 16:27:28 [ted]
- … we don't want it to get destroyed by complexity
- 16:28:01 [ted]
- Ted: on structs, I'm of the recollection that was done to help get VSC to use VSS but they're still going off in a different direction
- 16:30:34 [ted]
- Ted gives summary of his Commercial Vehicle BoF (slide link above) and how it can help with VSS adoption
- 16:30:58 [ted]
- Ulf: additional domains, handling trailers as well will help
- 16:32:38 [ted]
- [discussion of port]
- 16:36:02 [ted]
- Peter: there was also considerable interest in Android Automotive app marketplace
- 16:36:27 [ted]
- Ted: Google getting pressure, AutoSAR will help too, in exposing VSS in AA in addition to VHAL
- 16:38:06 [ted]
- [discussion on OEM going AA vs AOSP and related]
- 16:38:35 [ted]
- Peter: the drawn out release cycles of AA are going to be an issue
- 16:42:19 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/02-auto-minutes.html ted
- 16:50:40 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Ted, Peter, Ulf, Carine
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- 16:50:42 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items